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Should be a wild four years.

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Just looking over the Goodreads review page, I'm showing one review which is very close to what @LiquidKid is claiming and rates it 1-Star:

Well, this was $20 not well spent. The authors take great pains on their book tour to tout this as a non-partisan account of the 2024 election. They say it’ll make both Republicans and Democrats happy. I should have known. If it comes from the media, it’s going to be leftist propaganda. Just in the first chapter alone, every chance the authors mention Trump’s name, it’s to level some derogatory insult at him. Every word and sentence is nuanced to portray him negatively, while Biden comes across as nothing more than an old man with good intentions. It’s truly incredible. If these authors think that this book is fair and balanced, it’s proof of how utterly delusional they all really are.
...while another takes a (supposedly) more nuanced angle and gives it a 5-Star.

Compulsively readable - I finished this lengthy book in 3 sittings. It provides a fascinating inside view of the 2024 election, giving the reader a sense both of the overall narrative and the microdetails (e.g. that the drive-by customers at Trump's McDonald stunt were all prescreened).

The structure is certainly effective, opening with a montage of the various major players on the evening of Biden and Trump's only debate, and closing with the aftermath of Harris' defeat, also from the perspective of the major players.

The sketches and portraits of the players themselves are detailed, rich, colorful and convincing. I particularly relished the characterizations of Obama and Pelosi, who both dreaded a Harris candidacy and were grimly vindicated in the end. (Biden did not return the favor of Obama's awarding him the Presidential Medal of Freedom.)

Of the three principals, oddly Trump comes off best: typically egotistic and self-aggrandizing, but also charming, gentle (as described by the authors when he took Harris' concession call - "Trump thanked her for calling. She was struck by his gentle tone." Ch. 15) and - this is important - politically astute. He really does seem to have become more self-controlled and disciplined with time (and certainly wise enough to have - and keep! -Susie Wiles as principal manager).

Harris is presented as the worst: an empty candidate whose only reason for running was that she was next in line. Furthermore, she was held aloft only by the sentiment that the Democrats - keepers of the DEI flame - could hardly afford to pass over the first Black Woman to be the presidential candidate of a major political party. She is portrayed, not without sympathy as having been handed a series of impossible tasks, but as overly ambitious, insecure, and politically dim. (Also, as not particulary quick on her feet - bizarre, for an ex-prosecutor: cf. her infamous pull-quote from The View.)

Biden is tragic but not in a grand or ennobling way, and Allen and Parnes do not spare him (or his family) the vituperation for allowing his 2020 victory and the fulfillment of a lifetime ambition to delude himself into fantasy and devolve his faculties into senescence. Caught in a web of contradictions, he picked Harris to be his VP (as a sop to the woke-ists in his party) but really did not want her to run as President in his place (in recognition of the reality of her incompetence). As the authors point out, he was indeed a bridge - but not, as he intended, from Trump to the bright younger generation of Democratic leaders, but from Trump's first presidency to his second. He is last seen slumping off stage, still declaring that he could have won. Sad.

In short, who knows?
 
Or, ya know, people don't want to pay 35% more for groceries because the obese, elderly, senile conman who you want to have sex with because Fox News and Russian botfarm slop on social media told you ORANGE MAN GUD and you mindlessly believed it has no idea how tariffs work.
dawg if your groceries are getting hit with tarrifs that means your exclusively eating food thats so far away from you when its made its in anther country

price aside just for a second does that not worry you in the slightest? Its what your putting in your body and its so far from you at inception if it was a human it would need a passport and visa.

Id pay 200% more in my lifetime if it means my kids have a chance to grow up in a country with healthy, local, and nourishing food instead of the cheapest bidder from X country.
 
Why should the Hulkster have to stay out? He was here before most of us. If we must enforce an echo chamber to maintain order, that reflects worse on us than the Hulkster.

He doesn't have to, but it was his idea. I don't think anyone dislikes him being in here. I just give him a hard time about it because, when he posted his intention to stay out of the thread after the election results came in, I was concerned he did it because people wouldn't leave him the hell alone. The way he tells it, he gets fucked with all the time by Thunderdomers, and from what little I've seen, I can believe it. I just hope he's having fun and not needlessly stressing himself out or something. I can't help it. When he made that plea, I genuinely felt bad for the guy,
 
Who would’ve thunk MAGA cultists were so big into Bolshevik thought?
"who could have foreseen that people who are explicitly anti-neocon and pro-small government would be against the massive corporate overlord psuedogovernment!"

please use even one moment of your constantly squandered time to think about what you say before you say it.
 
In short, who knows?
I can already tell why the 5-star review called it “compulsively readable.” It’s written more like a narrative book rather than a historical account and it’s filled with dialog “inspired by actual events” that makes everyone sound like a character rather than the real person the dialog is supposed to represent.
I’ve experienced books like this before, and a lot of people who can’t handle a book not written like Harry Potter eat this kind of shit up.

Let me put it this way, the book goes out of its way to make every Democrat look good when when they do shady stuff. It simultaneously paints Pelosi as an evil backstabber who betrayed Biden, but also someone doing things with the best of intentions because she needed to save democracy
 
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Why should the Hulkster have to stay out? He was here before most of us. If we must enforce an echo chamber to maintain order, that reflects worse on us than the Hulkster.
I don't find obese, elderly, senile conmen attractive and dare disagree with retarded shit that he does and that makes people in this thread seethe with rage because they want this whole forum to be a hugbox where no one dare criticizes Dear Leader. That's why there's been more than 1 attempt for these retards to try and get me banned because they think that not worshipping Republicans with every fiber of your being should be a bannable offense (spoiler: it's not).

I apologize for daring speak badly of Dear Leader and being against prices going up 35%. If Dear Leader makes us all homeless and bankrupt, it is certainly for the greater good. I will say 50 Hail Trump prayers in an act of contrition
 
I just hate GDP-stock-market-lines-and-charts bullshit so goddamn much. I have no idea how anybody sees the modern job sector full of widdle-diddle desk jockey faggot nonsense and can say "this is good for The People, this is how it's supposed to be," and then say it and actually mean it. It sounds absurd. Why is having a factory or resource acquisition job supposed to be so damn bad? It's hard work that's good for the soul, it keeps a man honest with less tolerance for faggotry. How can such a thing be so undesirable? Is it just another expression of the modern day sense of entitlement and baseless elitism?
 
I hope the tariffs are successful. Everyone should be hoping that. I'm happy to wait it out and see the result. Better than doing nothing like we have been for so long.
Obama "progressive" years opened my eyes to the reality. There are only two powers in this world. Powers of status quo & powers of degeneracy and self hatred. Trump is neither.
 
I just hate GDP-stock-market-lines-and-charts bullshit so goddamn much. I have no idea how anybody sees the modern job sector full of widdle-diddle desk jockey faggot nonsense and can say "this is good for The People, this is how it's supposed to be," and then say it and actually mean it. It sounds absurd. Why is having a factory or resource acquisition job supposed to be so damn bad? It's hard work that's good for the soul, it keeps a man honest with less tolerance for faggotry. How can such a thing be so undesirable? Is it just another expression of the modern day sense of entitlement and baseless elitism?
I sometimes drive by the factory my grandmother worked at for 30 years, it employed a huge chunk of the town and it employed people in my town since before the Civil War. In the 90s it went south with people being laid off and shifts being shutdown, until in 2000 the company moved to Mexico. Now the building sits in rough shape and is used for storage. My dad's first job was creating shoes and combat boots, with that job he was able to move out on his own, get a car and start his life. Now that building has been torn down, a major factory section of my town is falling apart, one of the buildings was flooded out and nothing has been done about it. One of the most beautiful neighborhoods in my town used to be full of middle class houses, well kept lawns, and multiple factories where people would make all kinds of things now looks like a warzone, with all the buildings falling apart, overgrown lawns and fucked up roads, all those houses have now been taken over by slum lords and were made into apartments full of psychotic junkies, they robbed a Dominos delivery driver and stabbed the fuck out of him for 30 bucks a while back.

The local JSL where we used to play sports as kids was falling apart and instead of fixing it for the kids they turned it into a halfway house in what is now called heroin alley. I know a lot of people have seen this and it really pissed me off when people just laugh it off and point at the stock market like it is some big win and that these policies we should just continue to let happen. People who worked in those factories had pride and they were able to afford to actually live and do things they wanted to do. Now we have people actively rooting for millions of spics to come in and suppress wages while the rest of us work soul crushing jobs in shitty offices or delivery jobs just to maybe afford to keep the lights on. Heaven forbid the globohomos throw a bitch fit while someone tries to bring back industry and to stop spics from suppressing wages so there is actual competition for workers to drive up wages and maybe have people feel fulfilled and have some pride again.
 
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