William James Mitchell vs. Twin Galaxies LLC, Jeff Harrist & Jeremy Young & donkeykongforum.com, Benjamin Q Smith

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I'm not a fan of the argument about whether Jobst misled his minions or not about the basis of the lawsuit because I think it's kind of a sideshow, and I think these people would've paid Jobst money, no matter what the nature of the suit was.
No, I don't think so. Most of the people who donated don't seem to be super fans of Karl, and the backlash demonstrates that.
But YouTube is now putting all these related vids on my feed, and I just happened to listen to 10m of a deposition from Billy Mitchell from 2023. He stats, flatly and plainly, that his suit against Karl Jobst has "nothing to do with video games". If the Karl Jobst cocksuckers would've ventured one inch outside their echochamber, they would've known exactly what the lawsuit was.
This is true and it's evidence that Karl had far more reach than Billy, and did in fact successfully defame him.
 
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Sadly no, this just a rumor that has been reported on and quoted numerous of times by people who are covering the case. So take it with a pinch of salt.
Looks like Billy changed solicitors in 05/2023, but nothing I could see from Karl
Damn, I was hoping that it would be more than a rumor so I could have another reason to laugh at Karl "Better Get Another" Jobst.
 
I mentioned the blog and this post written bei Ersatz_Cats several times by now.
The guys is furiously sweeping in the comments.

I saw someone comment they had read the court files and that Billy amended the claim, dropping all other defamatory statements from the lawsuit early, leaving only the five imputations regarding Karl's comment about Billy and Apollo Legend.

If that is accurate the case was in fact also about the claim that Billy is a cheater, but then it no longer was and Karl forgot to mention that.
That comment is nowhere to be found now, which is very interesting.

I really wish we had full access to the filings in this case to look at what the truth looks like instead of playing whack-a-lie game with the Jobstguard.
 
I saw someone comment they had read the court files and that Billy amended the claim, dropping all other defamatory statements from the lawsuit early, leaving only the five imputations regarding Karl's comment about Billy and Apollo Legend.
The funniest part of this is that it implies that Billy listened to his lawyers, while Jobst went lawyer shipping for yes-men. I'm still amazed that Karl managed to single-handedly save BM's reputation just by being worse to his own fans.

It'll be a crime against comedy if the video isn't sponsored by Rickey's World Famous Hot Sauce
The next sponsorship is just 5 hours of BM livestreaming donkey kong and drinking hot sauce
 
Hello, newfag here. I have been following this case with particular interest and these are my notes of my understanding of what has happened so far. Please bear in mind that I have only compiled them to the best of my knowledge and ability and that they are to be taken as my personal view and opinion at this point in time; as with any other opinion, they should be scrutinised and judged on their own merits, or lack thereof. I think it would be very interesting to share them with Karl's followers, as they are the most knowledgeable on the subject and could probably challenge them and help refine them in accordance with the truth. I would like to apologise in advance if I have written anything that is not correct, I will amend any statement that is contrary to what is absolutely true.

Karl Jobst wasn't just a bystander in the campaign against Apollo Legend, he actively helped orchestrate it. As a researcher for EZScape's video attacking Apollo Legend, Jobst's behind-the-scenes research fuelled the damaging claims, including inflammatory accusations about Apollo's GoFundMe efforts. This video was no innocuous commentary; it was a devastating blow that pushed Apollo to the brink, a fact confirmed by Apollo himself, who named EZScape in his final words. Jobst may not have been holding the camera, but his fingerprints are all over this gruesome spectacle, a fact he later cynically ignored while blaming Billy Mitchell.

Jobst chose to callously weaponise the tragedy, launching baseless attacks blaming Billy Mitchell for Apollo's death. An Australian court saw through the lies and slapped Jobst with a AU$350,000 libel judgment. The court found that Jobst had acted with malice and "reckless indifference" to the truth, highlighting his refusal to check facts, retract venomous allegations, show remorse or treat Mitchell's response with anything but contempt. Instead, Jobst mocked Mitchell's legal efforts and publicly doubled down on a narrative he knew was false. This wasn't just carelessness, it was a deliberate smear campaign to shift the blame away from himself and onto a scapegoat.

Jobst sunk even lower by finding a way to cash in on Apollo's death. He allegedly manipulated his audience into funding a GoFundMe under false pretenses, misrepresenting Mitchell's lawsuit as a threat to free speech. When the backlash erupted, Jobst offered a weak apology about 'transparency': a feeble attempt to deflect accusations of fraud. The hypocrisy is staggering: while he once lambasted Apollo's crowdfunding efforts, Jobst shamelessly replicated the same scheme, profiting from the very tragedy he helped create, and then blamed Mitchell for the consequences of all of his own actions.

It's deeply disturbing that Jobst, knowing full well that his and his associates' harassment contributed to Apollo's death, then turned his venom on Billy Mitchell. He subjected Mitchell to a vicious, sustained campaign of bullying, producing twenty-one videos designed to defame, humiliate and 'destroy' him. This obsessive vendetta reveals a calculated cruelty and willingness to destroy reputations. Jobst knew that his own actions had contributed to Apollo's death, yet he callously recycled the same strategies to target Mitchell, weaponising his platform to bury his own guilt.

Karl Jobst's behaviour reveals a moral void. He helped hound Apollo Legend to the breaking point, lied about Mitchell to deflect blame, allegedly misled fans for money, and bullied his targets without remorse. His most egregious sin? Accusing Mitchell of destroying Apollo, knowing full well that he himself had helped orchestrate the harassment that broke him.
 
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I mentioned the blog and this post written bei Ersatz_Cats several times by now.
The guys is furiously sweeping in the comments.

I saw someone comment they had read the court files and that Billy amended the claim, dropping all other defamatory statements from the lawsuit early, leaving only the five imputations regarding Karl's comment about Billy and Apollo Legend.

If that is accurate the case was in fact also about the claim that Billy is a cheater, but then it no longer was and Karl forgot to mention that.
That comment is nowhere to be found now, which is very interesting.

I really wish we had full access to the filings in this case to look at what the truth looks like instead of playing whack-a-lie game with the Jobstguard.
I almost caught syphilis from reading that shit...so I skimmed it.

This Ersatz faggot is seriously trying to defend Karl's baseless claims by saying that "...we had insider sources" that "proved" AL had to pay Billy money?

"Insider Sources". :story:

These same "insider sources" that were never mentioned by Karl when Billy first told him to retract his statement? The same "insider sources" that were never mentioned again once Billy, Keemstar and AL's OWN BROTHER confirmed that there was no cash payout to Billy?

Ersatz_Cats, needs to just take the L, take a permanent break from teaching his braindead troon brigade how he wishes the law worked and go back to trying to beat Rygar in under 9 minutes or some shit.

And L-O fuckin' L at Ersatz banning people for calling him out on his Jobst lap dancing while at the same time saying he has "thick skin". He was going to immediately ban a guy for refuting his dumpster fire article with transcripts from the actual courtroom decision. Good lord!
 
This Ersatz faggot is seriously trying to defend Karl's baseless claims by saying that "...we had insider sources" that "proved" AL had to pay Billy money?
I am getting the impression that the Billy-Mitchell-Derangement-Syndrome cheer squad around Ersatz_Cats and the other shizoids played a central role in talking various people into feuding with Billy and getting sued by him.

For some weird reason these people claim to know all the insider info, have secret screenshots of DMs and other conversations, but none of then was ever published in a video breakdown of the situation or, more importantly, considered as evidence in the lawsuit.

They are literally trying to tell us "but the judge was retarded because he did not actually see the REAL evidence we all know exists".
That guy is talking himself into his own case of defamation and this time Billy can cite a Australian decision, which this faggot is trying to relitigate, once again causing the reputational damage by dredging up the SAME claims.
 
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I mentioned the blog and this post written bei Ersatz_Cats several times by now.
The guys is furiously sweeping in the comments.

I saw someone comment they had read the court files and that Billy amended the claim, dropping all other defamatory statements from the lawsuit early, leaving only the five imputations regarding Karl's comment about Billy and Apollo Legend.

If that is accurate the case was in fact also about the claim that Billy is a cheater, but then it no longer was and Karl forgot to mention that.
That comment is nowhere to be found now, which is very interesting.

I really wish we had full access to the filings in this case to look at what the truth looks like instead of playing whack-a-lie game with the Jobstguard.
Yeah there is a large unknown when it comes to the timing of things.

"Billy Mitchell always has a plan" = he deliberately did all of this with the strategy of owning Jobst and making him look like he was a liar. And if Billy did actually do all of this in a strategic manner, then hats off to him.
 
This has been absolutely wild. To be honest, I've followed Karl for a while for his content about speedrunning and I was also under the impression that the entire lawsuit was about Billy's cheating and nothing else. Karl is an absolute weasel of a man for what he's done, and I never thought I'd be cheering on Billy of all people, but justice is justice, I suppose
 
Okay first off, serious question, I don't know much about divorce rulings beside that they can be absolutely unfair and I have even less idea how they work in Australia. But if you divorce your husband who's saddled in debts, can you still get alimony off him?

Also want to chime in that while a lot of us thought this trial was over the Donkey Kong score and even if he couldn't have spelled it out "Yeah I am being sued over saying he's responsible for a suicide". I get legally you don't talk about the trial. I don't even think it "misled" us that he posted a million video about Billy's cheating during that time.

No here's the thing.
I'm disappointed in him that he's such an autistic retard who didn't settle and thought he had a chance over this defamation trial. He gloated so much about this thing, thinking he was going to win and humiliate his sworn enemy and he had clearly no chance. "He cheated at Donkey Kong so I should be able to say anything about him." That was his plan! Like for fuck's sakes.

It's like the guy had relatively smartly produced content and you find out he's such a fucking idiot it's like wow man. He really did mislead us, I mislead us into thinking he wasn't a complete idiot. Especially once you find out how he deleted the video, got zero confirmation and yet re-uploaded it, this after the notice of concern. You know they say never think with your dick, well I guess that applies to hateboners too.
 
They are literally trying to tell us "but the judge was retarded because he did not actually see the REAL evidence we all know exists".
That guy is talking himself into his own case of defamation and this time Billy can cite a Australian decision, which this faggot is trying to relitigate, once again causing the reputational damage by dredging up the SAME claims.
One can only hope this happens. It would be a great birthday present (or whatever holiday) to see a half-wit like Ersatz_Cats in court against Billy Mitchell, dancing this same dance...only this time with a defendant who spends all of his time weeping during cross examination. That, or he'll collapse into a pile of quivering apologies as soon as he gets hit with that sweet Notice of Concern.

Don't understand what makes these fuckers think and act this way, don't much care. It's quality entertainment to me. I hate YouTubers anyway. Seeing them crash and burn lifts my spirits.
 
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Watched the MATI on it, great recap. I so badly would like to see Marzgurl get taken down by a judge reading off her stalking like the judge did to Jobst. Online grifting stalkers are really a nasty breed. Thing is, Marzgurl doesn't really do it for money even, just pure envy and rage. She shilled manscape which is almost as nuts as Karl's pickup artistry.
 
I almost caught syphilis from reading that shit...so I skimmed it.

This Ersatz faggot is seriously trying to defend Karl's baseless claims by saying that "...we had insider sources" that "proved" AL had to pay Billy money?

"Insider Sources". :story:

These same "insider sources" that were never mentioned by Karl when Billy first told him to retract his statement? The same "insider sources" that were never mentioned again once Billy, Keemstar and AL's OWN BROTHER confirmed that there was no cash payout to Billy?

Ersatz_Cats, needs to just take the L, take a permanent break from teaching his braindead troon brigade how he wishes the law worked and go back to trying to beat Rygar in under 9 minutes or some shit.

And L-O fuckin' L at Ersatz banning people for calling him out on his Jobst lap dancing while at the same time saying he has "thick skin". He was going to immediately ban a guy for refuting his dumpster fire article with transcripts from the actual courtroom decision. Good lord!
This ersatz retard was spamming /v/ for days with links to his shitty biased recap of the case. I had no idea who the fuck he was at the time, now we know that it's some freak who is a part of the speedtroon Jobst squad. This freak flew from America to Australia to recap the court case to give their biased review to lie and hope everyone would accept the world's most biased review of the review ever. Why the fuck would this Ersatz Kats individual do this?
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Oh right, the Speedtroon squad is trying to cover up that they were the ones to make apollo kill himself while pinning it on Billy.
 
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