US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Clobber3]

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https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1jrk43o/its_over_the_market_is_cooked_hope_you_enjoyed/

El Oh El.

anyone who tries to pick stocks like they're the next buffet is an actualy retard

john bogle told you all you need to know, VTI/VOO/VT etc and dont be a gambling addict like these little reddit chimps

 

[Clobber3]

Nintendo's manufacturing is done in Vietnam which just announced today they're willing to drop all tariffs with the U.S.

based vietnam

https://youtu.be/IhESy1poIfE

https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=IhESy1poIfE

 

[quaawaa]

Trump shitposting about killing terrorists:

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[XYZpdq Jr.]

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so... wait
previously he HAD given fucks?

 

[Clobber3]

this is completely empty. there is absolutely nothing of substance here. this is a completely empty statement. if trump wants to encourage business as much as possible why wouldn't he do this?

if you understand why/when we cut rates and compare that with previous white house monkey brain prop re: tariffs then you can see the clear contradiction.

 

[(°▽°)]

They can build the factories out of wood and rocks then tech up to higher levels.

pro strats here:

 

[Orange_Juiche]

my president is braindead make it make sense donald!

https://cafehayek.com/2025/04/even-trump-doubts-his-tariffs.html

Plays into the debt refinance 5d chess idea I guess. To be clear, I hate nth dimensional chess copes, but there’s clearly *something* going on beneath the surface tariff story. The official reciprocal tariff equation is a fucking Econ 101 meme that a drunk undergrad could whip up on a bar napkin.

Any random LLM could output an econometric equation sufficiently dense enough to avoid the current wtf narrative of “0.5((x-m)/m)” and yet that’s what they went with. It’s so remarkably dumb that it somehow completely rules out an explanation of stupidity (in the sense that the media is screeching about ie: “Trump can’t do math”) . Something is being signaled here and they went with the most basic bitch formula to make sure the signal couldn’t be missed. But what is the actual message?

 

[botrix_fan]

The man blackpills over the drop of a hat and it's actually kinda concerning.

Many such cases. Blackpill adrenaline is highly addictive.

A bunch of reciprocal tariffs are nothing compared with shutting down the world economy for the coof. Yet the market reacted like it's Lockdown 2.0. This is the buying opportunity of the decade. If I had any money

 

[Buck Broken Chimp]

Trump shitposting about killing terrorists:
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What happened to no more foreign wars ? Also once again all the effort he puts into bombing the houthis could be better spent on getting Israel to stop bombing Gaza. He is possibly the only person with enough leverage to restrain Israel and instead he would rather support Jewish supremacy

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Archives for some recently highlighed links:

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/03/judge-boasberg-contempt-trump-deportations-00271484

[ https://ghostarchive.org/archive/Qe2X1 ]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/gm-increase-us-truck-production-following-trumps-tariffs-2025-04-03/

[ https://ghostarchive.org/archive/vPqL6 ]

Isn't it nice when the position expects years worth of bad decision-making to be undone in less than three months's time? Its such a shame nearly every online platform features more people politisperging than content people actually might find interesting instead.

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

The largest manufacturers of CNC machines by volume are Japanese and German companies. (Although these are probably full sized.) This is also true for a lot of industrial automation. We can negotiate with those countries.

It would’ve probably been smarter to make a domestic investment deal with Japan on the tooling front. Maybe dropping the tariffs will incentivize that to happen.

When I worked in Injection Molding, we used a mix of newer Japanese and Italian machines (Mikuni and Negri Bossi) and older manual machines (Cincinnati). That job taught me how to troubleshoot well, I'll always be greatful (plus injection molding is fuckin cool)

 

[Buck Broken Chimp]

Isn't it nice when the position expects years worth of bad decision-making to be undone in less than three months's time? Its such a shame nearly every online platform features more people politisperging than content people actually might find interesting instead.

What was wrong with Biden's economic policy from your perspective ? What can you criticize him for that can't be said about Trump ?

 

[Mister Fister]

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What can judges do, order him Arrested?

 

[autistic dog]

Shamelessly stolen from

https://patriots.win/p/19Awy25zHh

This post has been fact checked by real american patriots!

Here’s an expanded list of countries involved in tariff negotiations with the United States under President Donald Trump’s tariff war as of April 4, 2025, along with explanations of where their negotiations stand based on available information. This builds on the previous list and reflects the latest developments in the ongoing trade disputes.

1. Canada
   • Status: Canada is actively negotiating with the U.S. to mitigate the 25% tariff imposed on March 4, 2025. After securing a one-month delay in February by pledging a "fentanyl czar" and border security measures, Canada retaliated with 25% tariffs on $20 billion in U.S. goods when talks stalled. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has threatened further tariffs on $85 billion in U.S. exports if no deal is reached soon. Negotiations continue, with a trade delegation in Washington, but Canada is balancing diplomacy with the threat of escalation.
2. Mexico
   • Status: Mexico faces a 25% tariff effective March 4, 2025, delayed once in February after committing 10,000 troops to its border. President Claudia Sheinbaum has held off on immediate retaliation, planning a response by March 9 if negotiations fail. Talks with U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick suggest potential for partial resolution, but Mexico is under pressure to address fentanyl and migration issues alongside trade. Negotiations are ongoing, with Mexico aiming to protect its auto industry.
3. China
   • Status: China is not negotiating in good faith yet. It faces a 34% reciprocal tariff on top of a 20% existing duty, totaling 54%. In response, China imposed 34% tariffs on U.S. goods starting April 10 and restricted rare earth exports. Beijing calls this a "firm opposition" to U.S. "bullying," showing no immediate willingness to negotiate. The trade war is escalating, with little progress toward a deal.
4. European Union (EU)
   • Status: The EU, hit with a 20% tariff, is preparing for talks while readying $28 billion in two-phase retaliatory tariffs (starting mid-April) if negotiations fail. In February, the EU offered to cut car tariffs from 10% to 2.5% and boost U.S. energy imports, but no agreement has been reached. EU leaders, like Ursula von der Leyen, emphasize negotiation but are poised to act if Trump doesn’t soften his stance.
5. India
   • Status: India faces a 26% tariff and has responded proactively by offering to reduce tariffs on $23 billion of U.S. imports (e.g., gems, pharmaceuticals) to address its $46 billion trade surplus with the U.S. Following Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s February 2025 White House visit, negotiations aim to double bilateral trade to $500 billion by 2030. Talks are progressing, with India seeking to avoid further escalation.
6. Japan
   • Status: Japan, under a 24% tariff, is negotiating to secure exemptions, particularly for its auto exports. Trade Minister Yoji Muto has called the tariffs "regrettable" and is pushing for a swift U.S. reconsideration. Japan is avoiding retaliation so far, focusing on diplomacy, but no concrete deal has emerged.
7. South Korea
   • Status: Facing a 25% tariff, South Korea is negotiating to lessen the blow to its auto and tech sectors. Acting President Han Duck-soo has ordered emergency support for affected industries and tasked Trade Minister Cheong In-kyo with talks in Washington. Negotiations are active, but South Korea is also preparing domestic countermeasures if needed.
8. United Kingdom
   • Status: The UK, with a 10% baseline tariff, is negotiating a broader trade deal to avoid escalation. Prime Minister Keir Starmer sees this as an opportunity to strengthen ties, keeping retaliatory options open but prioritizing talks. Progress is slow, with no firm resolution yet.
9. Australia
   • Status: Australia, also at a 10% tariff, is negotiating to eliminate duties without invoking its Free Trade Agreement’s dispute mechanisms. Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has ruled out retaliation, focusing on diplomacy to maintain friendly trade relations. Talks are ongoing, with Australia hopeful for a favorable outcome.
10. Vietnam
    • Status: Vietnam faces a steep 46% tariff but has lowered rates on U.S. cars and LNG to ease tensions. Negotiations are underway to reduce the impact on its consumer goods exports, with Vietnam showing willingness to adjust trade policies. Progress is tentative but positive.
11. Israel
    • Status: Israel has reportedly dropped all tariffs on U.S. goods in response to Trump’s reciprocal tariffs (17%), effectively concluding its negotiation by aligning with U.S. demands. This move strengthens bilateral ties, with Israel securing a favorable position early.
12. Thailand
    • Status: Thailand, facing reciprocal tariffs (exact rate unclear), is adjusting its own tariffs and negotiating to mitigate impacts. Details are sparse, but it’s actively engaging with the U.S. to protect its export-driven economy, with talks in early stages.
13. New Zealand
    • Status: New Zealand, under a 10% tariff, is seeking discussions to address the $900 million hit to its exporters. It disputes the U.S. claim of a 20% tariff on its goods, pushing for clarity and relief in negotiations. No deal has been finalized.
14. Taiwan
    • Status: Taiwan, hit with a 32% tariff, is negotiating to reduce the burden, calling the duties "unreasonable." President Lai Ching-te has urged strong talks to safeguard Taiwan’s tech exports, with prior efforts to increase U.S. energy imports showing some goodwill. Negotiations are ongoing.
15. Argentina
    • Status: Argentina is negotiating to become the first "zero-tariff" country with the U.S., offering concessions to avoid reciprocal tariffs (exact rate unspecified). Talks are advancing, with Argentina leveraging its agro-industrial exports to secure a deal.
16. Italy
    • Status: As part of the EU, Italy faces the 20% tariff but has independently signaled it won’t pursue retaliatory tariffs, favoring negotiation. It’s working within the EU framework and bilaterally to protect its luxury goods and auto sectors, with talks ongoing.
17. Norway
    • Status: Norway, under a 10% tariff, is pushing for negotiations to protect its export-heavy economy. Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre has called the tariffs "serious" and is seeking to "put a foot in the door" with U.S. officials. Talks are in early stages.
18. Switzerland
    • Status: Switzerland, facing a 10% tariff, is urging quick negotiations to avoid escalation. Its business federation, Economiesuisse, calls the tariffs "harmful," and the government is engaging U.S. counterparts to find solutions, with no firm progress yet.
19. Spain
    • Status: Within the EU’s 20% tariff, Spain is advocating for a united EU response but also exploring bilateral talks. Economic Minister Carlos Cuerpo emphasizes readiness to counter tariffs, with negotiations part of the broader EU strategy.
20. France
    • Status: Also under the EU’s 20% tariff, France is negotiating via the EU while President Emmanuel Macron urges companies to pause U.S. investments as leverage. Talks are tied to the EU’s broader efforts, with France pushing for a strong stance.

Explanation of Negotiation Dynamics​

• Negotiating Countries: Most nations (e.g., Canada, Mexico, EU, Japan, South Korea, India, Vietnam, Israel, Argentina) are engaging with the U.S. to reduce or eliminate tariffs, often offering concessions like tariff cuts, border security commitments, or increased U.S. imports. Israel and Argentina stand out for their proactive alignment with U.S. demands.
• Resistant Countries: China is the primary holdout, opting for retaliation over negotiation, escalating tensions. This reflects its stance against perceived U.S. unilateralism.
• Mixed Approaches: The EU, UK, Australia, and others blend negotiation with the threat of retaliation, aiming to pressure Trump into concessions while avoiding an all-out trade war.
• Progress: Israel has effectively concluded its talks by removing tariffs, while others like India, Vietnam, and Canada show partial progress. Most negotiations remain fluid, with deadlines like April 9 (reciprocal tariffs生效) and mid-April (EU retaliation) looming.

These negotiations are driven by Trump’s "reciprocal tariff" policy, announced April 2, 2025, aiming to address trade imbalances. Countries are responding based on their economic reliance on the U.S. market, strategic priorities, and willingness to escalate or de-escalate tensions. The situation continues to evolve rapidly.

 

[Übertroon]

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There goes a dozen Hasan subscribers

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

To be fair he is like 80 I would stop caring too

 

[SIMIΔN]

previously he HAD given fucks?

Playing nice with the establishment got him a bullet an inch from his brain.
This is Trump trying to save America before it's too late.

Something is being signaled here and they went with the most basic bitch formula to make sure the signal couldn’t be missed. But what is the actual message?

That the other countries' tariffs/barriers don't matter so much as the tariffs he wants to put in place to improve America.

 

[(°▽°)]

Plays into the debt refinance 5d chess idea I guess. To be clear, I hate nth dimensional chess copes, but there’s clearly *something* going on beneath the surface tariff story. The official reciprocal tariff equation is a fucking Econ 101 meme that a drunk undergrad could whip up on a bar napkin.

Any random LLM could output an econometric equation sufficiently dense enough to avoid the current wtf narrative of “0.5((x-m)/m)” and yet that’s what they went with. It’s so remarkably dumb that it somehow completely rules out an explanation of stupidity (in the sense that the media is screeching about ie: “Trump can’t do math”) . Something is being signaled here and they went with the most basic bitch formula to make sure the signal couldn’t be missed. But what is the actual message?

Look at the actual reaction to the tariffs. No one is going to let this happen.

The more countries break and then drop their tariffs, the worse it is for hold outs, because someone else will take their place and simply have a better export sector. I don't know if the end game is zero tariffs and a fair playing field or some small universal tariff (10%?), but this whole thing is a play to get massive concessions and so far it seems to be working.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

What happened to no more foreign wars ?

The Houthi conflict is a previously existing foreign war mostly peaceful trade route dispute.

 

[xXthrowawayaccountXx]

My PoliSci teacher said that the tariffs were a bad idea because they were too strong from the get to. He said what he should have done was tell the manufacturers that he was raising the tariffs by 0.1% every year for ten years, and to slowly train workers while the companies build factories here.

I so badly wanted to call him a retard. You wanna know what would have happened? Every company would just say "lol sike", not do fucking anything, and then the first tariffs hit for 0.5% and everyone fucking whines, which causes all these politicians to instantly walk back and shit their pants and the economists get to gloat that tariffs are icky bad wrong despite them doing fucking nothing.