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Should be a wild four years.

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Eurofags' obsession with America is so cringy. The store already bought the products, dumbfucks. The US company already got paid.
More than that, the only possible thing accomplished by this is making some poor dumb wage slave (who is not even American) have to go through and turn them all back around again.

Is there anybody on the planet, even in the dumbass EU, who would be dissuaded from buying a product that they otherwise would have bought just because some retard turned it upside down on the shelf?

Sorry, I've worked retail before and had to deal with retards fucking with stuff that I had to fix, so this pisses me off.
 
"If only the republicans dialed back X and adopted the liberal views on it more people would vote for them"

STFU, this is literally what every lib said about everything from illegals to trannies, and what Jeb Bush ran on. If you want Jeb Bush as president so much just admit it instead of beating around the bush faggot

Allow me to play devil's advocate here.

The Republican Party has, historically, been the champion of globohomo insofar as free trade, deindustrialisation, global interventionism, and corporatism is concerned. It wasn't until Bill Clinton's tenure when Democrats began to adopt similar policies, but without the neocon flair to it all (i.e. they were just plain old neoliberals). It really can't be stressed enough how awful the Republican Party actually was between the advent of Reagan, Dubya tanking neocon's popular perception with the Iraq war, and McCain's grip on power before his death.

You mock him for voting Democrat because the unions told him to, but honestly? That's not necessarily a bad reason to vote Democrat in general, at least historically. Democrats, much like UK Labour, were the party of unions and historically left-of-centre economics like protectionism, higher taxes, social safety nets, and so on. The Democrat party I grew up with (i.e. between the late 90s through the present day) is definitely not the Democrat party of FDR, JFK, or Carter. Nevertheless, you have decades of institutionalised support within these voting blocs that only Democrats had access to (despite going full-tilt into the neoliberal globohomo world order).

2024 being the first election cycle where Democrats failed to retain their unionised support base is a huge step forward, but it wasn't because of any policy successes that the neocon-era Republican Party have under their belt, much less being friendlier toward labourers and blue collar workers. That's a trend that only began when Trump shook up the Republicans in 2016, and properly manifested itself in 2024 when 4 years of Biden's gangrenous corpse made it clear that Democrats no longer gave a single iota about the unions or the workers they represent.

I'm not affiliated with any political party, but it must be said: I didn't vote Republican for 3 election cycles in a row because I'm a staunch advocate for the GOP and its historically distasteful party line; I voted for Trump 3 election cycles in a row because he's actually putting left-of-centre economic policies in effect that I actually do agree with (i.e. gutting the entrenched federal bureaucracy, shutting down wasteful government aid programmes that fund the NGO industrial complex, aggressively using tariffs to correct decades old trade imbalances, nearshoring or outright repatriating manufacturing back to the USA, etc).

If the Republicans fail to understand why their party has the popular mandate now, they absolutely will lose their narrow margins and fail to make inroads with potentially new voting blocs they've attracted extremely recently.
 
Yes, they pull the “Necessary Evil” cop-out.
Yeah, "necessary" because no 1A means nowhere else in the whole fucking world can even operate a social media site worth half a shit.

Suffah, Eurocucks! You may complain about the taste, but you can't help yourself from suckin' that USD.
 
Who are we kidding? "The Republican Party" at large hasn't learned shit. And they don't want to learn shit. If anything, the majority of them or at very least the neocons, hate Trump more than the Dems do.

I'm not inclined toward dooming about MAGA's future, mostly because I'd like to retain what little hope I have for a major party realignment that would better capture my (frankly disenfranchised) demographic. Having said that, you do you. It's still early days, and maybe the Midterm elections will prove my optimism wrong.
 
Fucking hell, I don't go into your DNC shill threads and post AI videos of Biden deepthroating Soros because 1.) I don't harbor weird sexual fetishes that I project onto my opposition and 2.) I have the common courtesy to not be so disrespectful as to drag my ass into your echo chamber and shit on the floor because baby needs attention. Fucking grow up.
 
I'm not inclined toward dooming about MAGA's future, mostly because I'd like to retain what little hope I have for a major party realignment that would better capture my (frankly disenfranchised) demographic. Having said that, you do you. It's still early days, and maybe the Midterm elections will prove my optimism wrong.
I *want* to be white-pilled. I really do, and I respect the hell put of your optimism. It's just so hard for me when I keep seeing Republicans saying and doing the same stupid shit that made them so hated pre-MAGA, even by me.
 
nigger if it's been uninhabited this long you think it'll magically become inhabited in the next 4 years while you pay for it to get tariffed with your tax dollars? you are a special kind of retarded. enjoy getting taxed to oblivion to tariff empty islands
Nigger do you think this is some grand strategy game with upkeep costs per turn?
If there is nothing coming in from penguin land there is no cost involved anywhere because there is -no trade to regulate-.
The most penguin land's tariffs cost in that scenario is the buck worth of ink it took to print the name of the island.
 
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Nigger do you think this is some grand strategy game with upkeep costs per turn?
If there is nothing coming in from penguin land there is no cost involved anywhere. No dockworkers to unload the cargo. No inspectors to check for faults. No paper pushers to process invoices or documents. Nothing
The most penguin land's tariffs cost, if there is no trade, is the buck worth of ink it took to print the name of the island.

That's not entirely true. Antarctica has some scientific research bases that are jointly funded by multiple nations (i.e. the USA, UK, South Africa, Argentina, etc). Those research bases make use of insanely delicate, intricate, and expensive scientific instruments. It doesn't pop up often, but those instruments have a supply chain of their own and are subject to import/export processes whenever the time comes for those instruments to return to their country of origin.
 
Supreme Court allows Trump administration to cut teacher-training money, for now
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Mark Sherman and Lindsay Whitehurst
2025-04-04 23:10:02GMT
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Friday granted the Trump administration’s plea to cut hundreds of millions of dollars in teacher-training money as part of its anti-DEI efforts, while a lawsuit continues.

The justices split 5-4, with Chief Justice John Roberts joining the three liberal justices in dissent.

The emergency appeal is among several the high court is considering in which the Justice Department argues that lower-court judges have improperly obstructed President Donald Trump’s agenda.

Friday’s order was the first time, in three attempts, that the nation’s highest court gave the administration what it wanted on an emergency basis.

The Supreme Court previously sided against the administration in another lawsuit over nearly $2 billion in foreign aid cuts in another divided 5-4 ruling, with Justice Amy Coney Barrett in the majority in both cases.

It remains to be seen whether Friday’s decision marks a narrow win or a broader shift in Trump’s favor.

The Trump administration is facing some 150 lawsuits in lower courts challenging his flurry of executive orders. That includes about two dozen over federal funding cuts, some totaling billions of dollars.

The teaching training case deals with cuts to more than 100 programs. They had been temporarily blocked by a federal judge in Boston, who found that they were already affecting training programs aimed at addressing a nationwide teacher shortage.

U.S. District Judge Myong Joun issued a temporary restraining order sought by eight Democratic-led states that argued the cuts were likely driven by efforts from Trump’s administration to eliminate diversity, equity and inclusion programs.

The federal appeals court in Boston turned away an appeal from the administration to allow them to resume.

The Republican president also has signed an executive order calling for the dismantling of the Education Department, and his administration has already started overhauling much of its work, including cutting dozens of contracts it dismissed as “woke” and wasteful.

The two programs at issue — the Teacher Quality Partnership and Supporting Effective Educator Development — provide more than $600 million in grants for teacher preparation programs, often in subject areas such as math, science and special education, the states have argued. They said data has shown the programs had led to increased teacher retention rates and ensured that educators remain in the profession beyond five years.

Despite Joun’s finding that the programs already were being affected, the high court’s conservative majority wrote that the states can keep the programs running with their own money for now. By contrast, the majority said in an unsigned opinion, the federal government probably wouldn’t be able to recover the cash if it ultimately wins the lawsuit.

Justice Elena Kagan wrote in dissent that there was no reason for the court’s emergency intervention.

“Nowhere in its papers does the Government defend the legality of canceling the education grants at issue here,” Kagan wrote.

In a separate opinion, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson wrote, “It is beyond puzzling that a majority of Justices conceive of the government’s application as an emergency.”

Roberts joined neither dissent, noting only that he would have denied the appeal.

The administration halted the programs without notice in February. Joun, an appointee of Democratic President Joe Biden, found that the cancellations probably violated a federal law that requires a clear explanation.

The appellate panel that rejected the administration’s request for a stay also was made up of judges appointed by Democrats.

Attorney General Pam Bondi celebrated the ruling as a “significant victory for President Trump and the rule of law.”

California is leading the ongoing lawsuit, joined by Massachusetts, New Jersey, Colorado, Illinois, Maryland, New York and Wisconsin.

Boston Public Schools have already had to fire several full-time employees due to the loss of grant funding, and the College of New Jersey has also canceled the rest of its teacher-residency program. California State University has ended support for two dozen students in a similar program, and eliminated financial assistance for 50 incoming students.
 
That's not entirely true. Antarctica has some scientific research bases that are jointly funded by multiple nations (i.e. the USA, UK, South Africa, Argentina, etc). Those research bases make use of insanely delicate, intricate, and expensive scientific instruments. It doesn't pop up often, but those instruments have a supply chain of their own and are subject to import/export processes whenever the time comes for those instruments to return to their country of origin.
So then there is trade to regulate. Though a very sporadic and specialized sort. In which case the tariffs arent for nothing.
...Probably not gonna see a whole lot of return on it though tbh. I imagine its massive one off purchases at random and a constant trickle of relatively low cost supplies for the few people manning the bases.
 
If the Republicans fail to understand why their party has the popular mandate now, they absolutely will lose their narrow margins and fail to make inroads with potentially new voting blocs they've attracted extremely recently.
i doubt they'll forget at this point. unless some assassinations start happening, it seems clear that as long as no one does anything crazy trump hands off to vance and what few pre-trump conservative types were with the republicans either join the cult or die out.

Marco Rubio is a great example, going from a notorious enemy to an advocate if not key part of the admin in 8 years. the list of pre-tea party gop members is hilariously small now and those are the types least willing to play ball with trump.

Another thing to point out is that the mandate also has led the GOP to embrace a younger demo than even the democrats. the democrats are still stuck in 2016 and don't realize podcasts, streaming, and tiktok has taken over the discourse in a way youtube or reddit did a decade ago.

the very long and very short forms have won out over the obnoxious quibi level insight into everything that is reddit and youtube's bread and butter.

Its why Kamala was able to dominate a late night show interview but was scared shitless of going longer than a basic cable length interview with even the call her daddy chick.

liberal bullshit falls off hard after hours insight, its also why outside of youtube and reddit internet discourse massively has swung aganist the left in the last 4 years, the levels of censorship needed to keep people voting left fails after a long enough time and this is also why the left seems to be heavily distinct from the rest of the internet now, you can't be on X, you have to be on bluesky. you can't be on tiktok, you need reddit. you can't be on instagram, you need youtube.

if you notice besides bluesky, most of the platforms the left use are much older as well, they're from an era when being online was more niche, democratic types are associated with a very dated, millennial humor and are treated as a joke, guys in their 40s that still think its the 2010s and Marvel superhero films are the height of content, think about how the cumtown guys were too scared to be seen with sam hyde while shane gillis and other bud light types were throwing romans with him.

as we get further and further away from the 2010s the left's power decreases, they can't handle an open platform and don't have the power to shut them down now.

as long as the right can keep their shit together i can easily see 2025 being "the year of the tariff" and 14 months from now it turning into a massive success. a post-trump GOP at this point will look a lot different than people imagined 8 years ago, and a lot of detractors (such as his current VP) have realized the error of their ways. support is at an all time high for him and i would be surprised if we're stuck in a recession in 18 months.

thats really all he has to worry about, people will start giving a fuck about midterms in august and thats when trump and musk will put all their power into flipping some seats.
 
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It's time to abandon California to, well, California. Any based individuals still there should go someplace that actually wants based people.
Mother fucker, do you know how expensive it is to leave California? The cost of rent and expenses alone makes having a savings almost impossible.

I would have been out of here a decade ago if I had the money to leave.
My PoliSci teacher said that the tariffs were a bad idea because they were too strong from the get to. He said what he should have done was tell the manufacturers that he was raising the tariffs by 0.1% every year for ten years, and to slowly train workers while the companies build factories here.

I so badly wanted to call him a retard. You wanna know what would have happened? Every company would just say "lol sike", not do fucking anything, and then the first tariffs hit for 0.5% and everyone fucking whines, which causes all these politicians to instantly walk back and shit their pants and the economists get to gloat that tariffs are icky bad wrong despite them doing fucking nothing.
well yeah, there’s no such thing as an intelligent college professor.

It's a classic prisoners dilemma, if all the nations of the world agree to not negotiate then they'll be in a stronger position later, but by breaking rank they avoid a lot of immediate pain and do not risk being left in the dust if other nations negotiate
Russia already proved that you don’t need Europe to succeed economically, and America has far better resources and far more global control than Russia. If everyone stood firm, America could just cut the gibs and then all of the world would be fucked and America would be able to correct itself without ever needing to deal with them. Other countries couldn’t even launch a proper invasion due to the oceans keeping at bay. This really is a “don’t be the last one to concede or you’ll get the worst deal” scenario, Israel and Argentina going for the immediate zero tariff move was smart.


Personally?

In Trump's first term, I was able to rent my first apartment, buy my first car, and got my first adult job.

Under Biden, my savings stagnated while my grocery bill doubled and rent hiked. For what? To save a CIA money laundromat and give corporate handouts as DEI good goy points. All the while, I was told everything was fucking peachy, and that my wallet was lying to me.

NOW liberals pretend to care about inflation? You, whose response to high gas prices was "Let Them Drive Teslas"? Go fuck yourself with broken rusty rebar.

Trump's tariffs cannot hurt me any more than Biden already has.

I didn't vote for Trump to make my life better. I voted for Trump to hurt liberals. I want the ones who turned this country into a Weimar nightmare to suffer. My vote was driven by revenge and spite.
During Trump’s first term I went from being a retail wagie to having several corporate jobs. Only leaving one to get a higher paying job elsewhere. During Biden I kept getting laid off from downsizing. Anecdotal, but impactful to me.
Left on economics and right on social issues is the best combo.
Left on economics is socialism, which is a terrible system

Imagine not having a proper dishwasher
Never used a dish washer in my life. What’s the point of them if you already have to wash the plate before putting it in just seems faster to wash your dishes by hand.
 
I just wanna point out how immaculately the Trump admin has handled its first real "scandal."
A literal Jew journalist from one of the biggest libel rags in the country wormed his way into a private group chat, and the story has already been forgotten with not a single admin member being forced out or even really apologizing.
Were this first term Trump, Hegseth would have been out on his ass the same day the Atlantic article was published. Instead, he got a new "Fuck Muzzies" tattoo.
 
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