US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Gauf]

History of Political Philosophy 3rd Edition​

by Leo Strauss

Lectures on the History of Political Philosophy​

by John Rawls

Lectures on the History of Moral and Political Philosophy​

by Jonathan Wolff (Author), Gerald A. Cohen (Author)​

On Politics: A History of Political Thought: From Herodotus to the Present​

by Alan Ryan (Author)

Princeton Readings in Political Thought: Essential Texts from Plato to Populism--Second Edition Paperback​

by Mitchell Cohen

Highly recommend these books.

Nobody in this thread can read

 

[MeltyTW]

They stagnate and don't gamble on anything disruptive. until things are more predictable.

That's assuming that trumps successors don't win more terms, or also that it's more stable to be in this flux vs just having tariff free simple domestic manufacturing.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

The issue with Trump's tariffs is that they create too much uncertainty; he's not even applying them strategically and has already flip-flopped multiple times.

Regardless of your stance on tariffs, businesses aren't going to gamble billions on U.S. manufacturing if tariffs come and go like Twitter headlines. Businesses make plans in 10 - 20-year blocks, not days or whatever Trump's mood is. Why would they rewire entire supply chains if the trade policy is going to:
1) be reversed next week
2) get undone by the next administration.

Tarriffs that fluctuate each week or with each administration don't provide the kind of certainty or incentive for businesses to plan or make long-term investments. So instead, businesses play it safe: they freeze hiring, freeze investments, outsource even more, and hedge their bets. They stagnate and don't gamble on anything disruptive. until things are more predictable.

there is one way to fix this.

Trump Fuhrer.

 

[Atlas Sneezed]

I don't know what's on your plates (a few drops of vegetable broth?) but I have never seen anything short of an industrial dishwasher that could actually deal with bits of food still on the dishes--and you still rinse dishes before putting them in an industrial dishwasher!

I have 2 preschool age kids. We eat "normal" slavic things like meat, potatoes, salads and soup. The only "extra" thing I need to do is to simply trash the leftovers, like I won't put a dish inside with meat, bones or potatoes still on it - that would obviously clog the drain and fuck with the device. I don't rince them, just put them over a bin and scoop out the leftovers - if needed. Then into the dishwasher they go. That's in addition to utensils, glasses and coffee cups, pans and whatnot.

 

[ghastlyretard]

Trump Fuhrer.

I'm down as long as we gas the chinks.

Tarriffs that fluctuate each week or with each administration don't provide the kind of certainty

But if you make it in the US it can't be tariffed in the US, and that's a certainty.

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

Mother fucker, do you know how expensive it is to leave California? The cost of rent and expenses alone makes having a savings almost impossible.

I would have been out of here a decade ago if I had the money to leave.

If you don't have money to leave California, you probably don't have money for guns either and aren't ordering CA restricted weapons in a different state which is what my comment was about.

Sorry you've been trapped there but after a decade you've likely built a life in California and that makes it all the harder to leave. The bottom line is you'd leave if you HAD to, so you could also leave if you WANT to as well.

 

[quaawaa]

Regardless of your stance on tariffs, businesses aren't going to gamble billions on U.S. manufacturing if tariffs come and go like Twitter headlines. Businesses make plans in 10 - 20-year blocks, not days or whatever Trump's mood is. Why would they rewire entire supply chains if the trade policy is going to:
1) be reversed next week
2) get undone by the next administration.

Explain why automakers invested billions in EV manufacturing when it was clear that there was no market demand and that the mandate would go away in four years.

By the way, Biden kept Trump's tariffs on China.

 

[Dread First]

So then there is trade to regulate. Though a very sporadic and specialized sort. In which case the tariffs arent for nothing.
...Probably not gonna see a whole lot of return on it though tbh. I imagine its massive one off purchases at random and a constant trickle of relatively low cost supplies for the few people manning the bases.

You're not entirely wrong, but there is a point to be made: scientific instruments do have a lifespan. Some instruments are mission-critical and must stay put depending on what the nature of their task is, regardless of the advances made in science and technology. Others, however, generally have a lifespan of say... 10-20 years, maybe more depending on how resilient the instruments in question are. They also require upkeep, as the USA's Harmonised Tariff Schedule, adapted from the World Customs Organisation's Harmonised System, has specific provisions regarding machine parts for repair. Those provisions allow for repair parts to be imported/exported with minimal or no customs duties. The USA's own export control laws do complicate things somewhat, depending on the country of origin and where those instruments come from, where they're going, etc. That's a whole other can of worms that I'm not remotely qualified to talk about, though.

Disclaimer: I am not a licensed customs broker, nor am I an attorney-in-fact who does customs entries for 3PL companies. I am adjacent to those fields, however, and the recent tariff madness requires me to stay up-to-date for my job duties IRL. Make of that what you will.

 

[Butt_Pouncer]

I know 80% of the people itt are too poor and/or retarded to care, but this is not winning and it never will be.

Stay mad faggot
I was driving home and stumbled upon a small protest on a intersection SoCal on route 66 about orange man and Elon. I noticed the attendant were alll old fat men and old fat women. Very low energy

 

[grocerygoblin]

Businesses make plans in 10 - 20-year blocks

Take all my 's

 

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

Stay mad faggot
I was driving homme and stumbled upon a small protest on a intersection SoCal on route 66 about orange man and Elon. I noticed the attendant were alll old fat men and old fat women. Very low energy

it's really just the hippies out there with the leftists. looking at my local areas protest (i've seen one since trump got into office, really fuckin tiny. but Florida is pretty red), it was 70 percent boomers, 10 percent college kids, 20 percent millennials or other. They were gone after 2 hours, only like 15 people were there.

 

[Skylavijas]

@Dread First You mentioned somewhere in this thread that the purchase and delivery of these scientific instruments is the reason why tariffs exist for territories with no permanent human residence. But wouldn't those tariffs be incredibly easy to avoid? What stops Australia from ordering American scientific instruments unto their mainland, and then transport it unto McDonald island, without facing any increased tariff rates they'd get if they ordered directly to McDonald island?

 

[spiritofamermaid]

I don't believe it. Number 110 really is Israel.

Number 110 was Afghanistan, c'mon man keep up

 

[Blindeye]

@Dread First You mentioned somewhere in this thread that the purchase and delivery of these scientific instruments is the reason why tariffs exist for territories with no permanent human residence. But wouldn't those tariffs be incredibly easy to avoid? What stops Australia from ordering American scientific instruments unto their mainland, and then transport it unto McDonald island, without facing any increased tariff rates they'd get if they ordered directly to McDonald island?

The penguin islands have the same tariff rate as Australia, possibly to block this loophole

 

[Verpa Teutonica Ingens]

Number 110 was Afghanistan, c'mon man keep up

I thought it was the Maldives, or was that number 111?

 

[The Ugly One]

the pro-Israel shit is killing his perception among younger men and women who recognize them as a parasite nation not even remotely worth our time or money

The Extremely Online Right is the mirror image of leftist Twitter. They don't represent anything resembling mainstream voters. Trump's support for Israel was, according to EOR types, supposed to have been his undoing in 2020...yet he got more votes among every group than in 2016. Turns out nearly everyone who is going to stay home unless Trump cuts off Israel amounts to probably around 500 votes in the entire country.

 

[Alabama Gamer]

I like them using Ishowspeed to show how good China is.
The Chinese haven't realized this yet but bragging about how good your home is just invites 3rd world mongrel shitskins so I hope this leads to them getting flooded with infinite niggers and pajeets fleeing to the LGBT lighting cities. I mean, that could be the plan to fill in all those empty cities they've built the past decade but would also lead to mass death from the shit construction so it kinda works itself out.
Since China is China and has this weird Polish attitude towards the West it'll be funny seeing them brag about all the niggers and pajeets they imported to own the racist West like how they bragged about all the trannie faggots using that Rednote app trying to demoralize us. Like ok? We don't want them here, you can have them.

A lesser known aspect of the Tiananmen Square riots is that they were fed by previous student protests. Specifically, they were protesting against their government importing a whole bunch of African students, who behaved exactly like you would expect and were never punished or prosecuted because the CCP worships brack peopre almost as much as the American government. And once they started protesting against foreign students, they figured they might as well start protesting other things as well. I can't read Chinese, but I am told that in the background of some photos of the Tiananmen protests you can see banners bearing racist slogans that had been recycled from the anti-African protests.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

If the Republicans fail to understand why their party has the popular mandate now, they absolutely will lose their narrow margins

I believe that's absolutely going to happen. The Republican party does not like Donald Trump, they like his success. The future of Republican candidates is very likely going to be a bunch of bog-standard politicians who go "Remember Trump?" but have no intention whatsoever of replicating his political views nor continuing his line of political theory. In their ideal world, a bunch of rural retards come out to vote for anyone who puts on a Donald Trump mask, that candidate wins, and then they (the candidate) just does everything Bush or Cheney would have. Pro-active ideas like a DOGE department or reworking tariffs die on the campaign trail. This will very likely kill the Republican party (again).

Remember: American politics is a big room where established members of both parties (there can only be two) enjoy shaking hands and scheming at the direct expense of their constituents so that said politicians may enjoy a lavish lifestyle, even if everything surrounding them is on fire. This is the ultimate goal of every politician. Anyone who doesn't have this goal and would like to enact change is either bought (Bernie Sanders) or walled out by wealthy and well-connected people. If Donald Trump scares these people for any single reason, it's because his brand (name) generates money and he can't be walled out in that way. Trump will always gather enough cash to put himself in front of a microphone, which is where he's most dangerous, because even if you dislike or disagree with him nobody can deny he's good at persuasion.

The only reason Democrats haven't done this same thing yet is because they don't have a Donald Trump figure. The closest they've come is Obama, who doesn't work because, while he's very good at being two-faced in the exact way I just described, his only enticing quality was "nigger." That's not going to electrify people the same way Trump did. Even if we pretend idpol fatigue hasn't already set in, Trump going on stage in 2016 and being like "Too many illegal Mexicans are coming here, we need to get them out" is going to win out over "my skin is brown" for reasons I probably don't need to explain.

I don't know. If Bernie is even still alive in four years, having him wander out and scream "da grocery prices is too hoi" might be enough to defeat the inevitable, shallow, short-sighted two-facedness of whatever the Republicans run because the Republican Party doesn't like Trump, they like his success. They want Trump's success without Trump's ideas, which are what bring success, and Trump himself is too wealthy and egomaniacal to buy out (unless you are Israel.)

 

[The Ugly One]

I’m not sure what crappy dishwashers you’re using. Every dishwasher I’ve owned, from old tanks built in the 70s to Chinesium late models have been able to handle dirty dishes fine. You need to scrape off the solid parts of food, but that’s just because that’ll clog the drain. You are supposed to leave the residue. Dishwashers are actually designed for the grease on food to maintain the mechanical parts. If you prewash the dishes, it’s worse for the dishwasher.

If the dishwasher isn’t cleaning effectively, usually it’s water temperature. Below 110°, water has a hard time melting grease.

I started putting liquid detergent in the prewash container. Changed my life. Turns out that any dishwasher goes from getting rid of 50% of crap in the prewash to getting rid of 95% of crap in the prewash, making the main wash far more effective, because the main wash's water is cleaner.

Thank God for this autistic man and his exhaustive dishwasher research.

 

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

Bernie is even still alive in four years, having him wander out and scream "da grocery prices is too hoi"

there's no way in hell the DNC would run Bernie. not only is he going to be 87 when he gets into office, the DNC screwed him twice.