I really enjoy retrocomputing as far as running old games and demos is concerned but doing mundane tasks is a lot less fun compared to what we have now. Did you just enter things right into the interpreter without an editor? How long were the programs you wrote?
I'm sure it's not as bad as Rust but it's probably more a matter of balancing out the compile times and programming convenience. (Tho rust doesn't necessarily have programming convenience)
Imma be real, I just used this three part series (I was a little kid back then), so I just copied what the guy wrote, then did my own modifications based on that (I was by then using cbm prg studio) and thats that tbh, then I was trying to find some C++ tutorial, found one, was trying to follow it, but I didn't know what a variable was, so I stopped, some time went by and I started learning python, entered a giant tutorial hell as I misunderstood what programming was (me want more type less think)
Youtube tried recommending him to me a few times, doesn't he use AI?
So at least there's an IDE you can use instead of having to be stuck with whatever will run directly on the target platform. (I remember using KingCON on emulated Amigas and, while better than the default shell, it was still sorely lacking even compared to bash with zero user customization.) Unfortunately I don't know wojakspeak and can't really evaluate your videos other than see what the BASIC appears to be doing.
In my opinion Python doesn't go far enough and they should have assigned meaning to the vertical tab and made CR and LF independent.
I did my first personally useful project in Ruby (aside from Delphi, but that was a long time ago). I'd say it's comparable to Python in how easy it is to learn, but at the time the libraries needed to do what I needed for web scraping and kept getting stuck on what I fed it, so I re-implemented it in Python at some point. 50/50 on whether it was actually the library's fault or PEBKAC. After so many years, I'm sure it's gotten better so you can always give it a try, @mag_fag. Grorious scripts, folded 1000 times, no significant whitespace.
There's a reason why I suggested Python over Javascript, even despite the syntactically significant whitespace.
'\t' and a sequence of ' 'es can be visually indistinguishable. Or even if two indentations are close, but not exact, it can be easy to gloss over it visually. IDEs or fancier text editors help you with this, but that means correspondingly, that the "user interface" of the language, so to speak, is shittier in contexts where all you have is more primitive text editors. And sure, it's easy to say "well use good tools", but still, it reduces the utility of the language in constrained situations.
he doesn't, he doesn't even use an LSP. if anything he's the opposite of all those javascript youtubers that scream "DSA! DSA!" (which is exactly what stopped me from being interested in programming). Every day he just makes a small project in C, sometimes its a longer project requiring a few streams, sometimes it's a language other than C, but still something similar like D, C3 or Rust. I genuinely learned a lot by watching his streams.
Yeah, now I just recommend people CS50, it's pretty good, gets you interested in computing. Starts off with C to make you learn how computers work, then switches to Python to make you learn programming. The teacher (whoever he is, I forgot) is great as well, really fun to watch.
real programmers don't use the absolute crutch that is syntax highlighting
C is unironically a somewhat ok teaching language because it isn't full of features. It's really nice for making smaller programs and experimenting, and there aren't that many layers of abstraction getting in the way. It's not the best at "programming in the large" so you need to shift over to another language to get a taste of things like namespaces and modules, which is useful even if you go back to C, since this kind of thing is actually present as informal guidelines in the C world. It's best to learn programming concepts in languages that use that concept natively.
I've seen him do the occasional prompt but it seems to be more to entertain the chat than anything, it's not like he needs the help. If I had to guess, I don't think that he would have a particularly high opinion of "vibe coding".
my nigga david knuth doesn't use syntax highlighting, except for like numbers iirc
I like using C because it's fucking simple, which not only makes it good for teaching, but also the fact that it's very close to the computer, so people can learn bottom up. The problem with other languages like C++ is that I spend way too much time reading the docs, debating which features to use to make the source code the simplest/most idiomatic. That problem doesn't exist in C, because it has fucking nothing.
this is a very double-edged sword because c has absolutely fucking nothing and if you want a hash table you will have to write one yourself
honestly, limitations breed creativity.
Cool, I must have been misinformed then, I'll check his stuff out when I see it next time.
I think it's really good for learning, it's even what they used as the first language when I went to uni.
I'd argue in many cases C is better for learning and C++ or another language that has some specific or a generic purpose is best for getting shit done. But the best thing to do if you want to learn more about computers is learn how a CPU works and build one yourself in some software or literally Minecraft. That way you can also figure out how an assembly language really is made.
