Science Stopped Believing in Porn Addiction. You Should, Too

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Though porn addiction is not diagnosable, and never has been, there is a large self-help industry surrounding the concept. Mostly online (though in religious areas, such as Utah, there are numerous in-person treatment sites), this industry promotes the idea that modern access to the Internet, and the porn that thrives there, has led to an epidemic of dysregulated, out-of-control porn use, and significant life problems as a result.

Over recent years, numerous studies have begun to suggest that there is more to the story than just porn. Instead, we’ve had growing hints that the conflicts and struggles over porn use have more to do with morality and religion, rather than pornography itself. I’ve covered this surge of research in numerous posts and articles.

Now, researchers have put a nail in the coffin of porn addiction. Josh Grubbs, Samuel Perry and Joshua Wilt are some of the leading researchers on America’s struggles with porn, having published numerous studies examining the impact of porn use, belief in porn addiction, and the effect of porn on marriages. And Rory Reid is a UCLA researcher who was a leading proponent gathering information about the concept of hypersexual disorder for the DSM-5. These four researchers, all of whom have history of neutrality, if not outright support of the concepts of porn addiction, have conducted a meta-analysis of research on pornography and concluded that porn use does not predict problems with porn, but that religiosity does.

The researchers lay out their argument and theory extremely thoroughly, suggesting that Pornography Problems due to Moral Incongruence (PPMI) appear to be the driving force in many of the people who report dysregulated, uncontrollable, or problematic pornography use. Even though many people who grew up in religious, sexually conservative households have strong negative feelings about pornography, many of those same people continue to use pornography. And then they feel guilty and ashamed of their behavior, and angry at themselves and their desire to watch more.

In the early 1990’s, as the internet burst upon the world's screens, Al Cooper was a psychologist who suggested that the Affordability, Anonymity, and Accessibility of the internet was leading to an explosion of porn addiction. Though intuitively appealing and often cited, Cooper’s theory was only empirically evaluated once, in 2004, when it was found that the variables of accessibility, affordability, and anonymity actually had no empirical connection sexual behaviors, change, or use of Internet porn. But what the Internet did was to put porn in the hands of people woefully unprepared to manage it or their sexual desires. Religiosity is associated with a host of sexual difficulties; porn-related problems can now be added to that list.

In their study, Grubbs, et al., analyzed data from about 15 different studies by varied researchers (and reviewed many more), comprising nearly 7,000 different participants. Studies were conducted in-person and online, in the United States and Europe. The team found that, first, religiousness was a strong, clear predictor of moral incongruence regarding porn use. This is important, as it indicates that we can and should use a person’s religiousness as an indicator of the likelihood of moral conflict over porn use. Not all people who are morally opposed to porn are religious, but it appears that religiosity captures the majority of people who feel this way. Given that the WHO and ICD-11 recommend an exclusion of moral conflict over sex from the diagnosis of Compulsive Sexual Behavior Disorder, this finding suggests that when diagnosing CSBD, a person’s religiousness is a critically important factor.

Secondly, and more to the point, the meta-analysis found that “[M]oral incongruence around pornography use is consistently the best predictor of the belief one is experiencing pornography-related problems or dysregulation, and comparisons of aggregate effects reveal that it is consistently a much better predictor than pornography use itself…” The analysis did find small effects between use of pornography and self-perceived problems with pornography, but the researchers suggest that this is likely an artifact of the simple fact that, in order to feel morally conflicted over your use of porn, you actually have to use some porn. If the concept of pornography addiction were true, then porn-related problems would go up, regardless of morality, as porn use goes up. But the researchers didn’t find that. In fact, they cite numerous studies showing that even feeling like you struggle to control your porn use doesn’t actually predict more porn use. What that means is that the people who report great anguish over controlling their porn use aren’t actually using more porn; they just feel worse about it.

Having moral conflict over your porn use (PPMI) does turn out to be bad for you. But that's not because of the porn. Instead, higher levels of moral conflict over porn use predict higher levels of stress, anxiety, depression, and diminished sexual well-being, as well as religious and spiritual struggles. In one study by Perry and Whitehead, pornography use predicted depression over a period of six years, but only in men who disapproved of porn use. Continuing to use porn when you believe that it is bad is harmful. Believing that you are addicted to porn and telling yourself that you're unable to control your porn use hurts your well-being. It's not the porn, but the unresolved, unexamined moral conflict.

Even though Grubbs et al. left the window open, acknowledging that there may be people who report porn dysregulation without a moral conflict, and that there also may be people who actually demonstrate objectively dysregulated porn use and have moral conflict over it — in other words, they feel bad about it and they are actually using a lot of it — neither of these two data patterns appear to occur in the studies and participants they analyzed. Instead, across all of these studies, which would surely include these two groups if they existed, the statistically significant finding is that it’s not porn use itself which creates porn addiction, and that it is the use of porn by people with moral conflicts about it that fuels modern porn-related issues.

I will add something to the arguments made by the authors of this study: Having demonstrated that it is the moral conflict and self-identity of porn addict which is harmful, it is thus upon us to confront the social, media, and clinical use of this concept. It causes and perpetuates harm by focusing attention upon porn rather than the true cause: the moral conflict over one’s sexual desires. Clinicians who continue to promote the idea of porn addiction are, like those who promote age-regression hypnosis or recovered memory therapy, engaging in malpractice. Websites and advocacy groups that promote and encourage identification as porn addicts are doing harm to their followers, and can become like the hucksters promoting naturopathic treatment despite federal medical groups identifying such treatments as ineffective and potentially harmful. Ultimately, all should be held accountable for their inaccurate, outdated, and exploitative actions.

It is noteworthy that in this research, and in the numerous commentaries in response, no one is defending the porn-addiction model. None of the researchers looking at data on porn-related problems have chosen to argue that an addiction model or treatment strategy is appropriate. To be sure, some researchers still defend a compulsive model, or suggest that pornography itself is too broad a concept to be neatly captured by a single theory. The editors of the Archives of Sexual Behavior invited commentaries on this article only from researchers, who must argue based on science, as opposed to anecdote. None of them argue that porn is addictive, that it changes the brain or one's sexuality, or that the use of porn leads to tolerance, withdrawal, or other addiction-related syndromes. Put simply, while the nuance of porn-related problems is still being sussed out, the idea that porn can be called addictive is done, at least in the halls of sexual science.

Clinically, what these findings mean is that instead of assessing porn use in people who seek help for porn-related issues, clinicians and therapists should be assessing a person’s moral attitudes toward porn, as well as their level of religiosity. In therapy, instead of trying to change people’s porn use patterns, we should instead be focused on helping them make their values and behaviors congruent, and learning to understand and recognize the impact of their moral beliefs. This conflict between morality and sexual behaviors may be resolved by changing one’s sexual behaviors or by changing one’s values or simply by helping people become conscious and mindful of this internal conflict.

Many of the moral values we were raised with, about sex, race or gender, are no longer fully applicable to the modern world. Because of religious opposition to sexual education, many people struggling with masturbation don’t understand what is normal, or that their sexual interests are healthy. Helping people to consciously examine and consider their religious beliefs about sex, masturbation, and porn with modern, adult, self-determining eyes, may help them reduce the pain and suffering caused by this moral conflict.
 
[M]oral incongruence around pornography use is consistently the best predictor of the belief one is experiencing pornography-related problems or dysregulation, and comparisons of aggregate effects reveal that it is consistently a much better predictor than pornography use itself…”
This may be true, and it's one of those "things that should be obvious but let's do a study anyways", but my question would be whether self-reported experiences of dysregulation ARE what we should be looking at.

After all, the really compelling case for "pornography addiction" isn't "some people feel upset because they wank too much"; it's the explosion of troonery and angry, violent, increasingly pedophilic castration fetishism. These people may not blame porn for their dysfunction, and indeed many of them have become convinced that they AREN'T dysfunctional at all, and that actually it's society being insufficiently accommodating of their public fetish displays that's the real issue.

But the fact that they don't blame porn, doesn't mean porn's not to blame.

Yes, I daresay that people who have a moral aversion to porn will find their own porn use distressing. But people who are uninhibited about porn may still find themselves doing increasingly dysfunctional things, and would likely be WORSE given the lack of shame and moral brakes. If all we're talking about is self-image (which, in fairness, is pretty common in mental health these days) then no, porn addiction probably isn't "real" except in the case of puritans (religious, feminist, whatever) who also watch porn. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't still look at other, more objective measures of dysfunction that may be partially influenced by porn consumption - like, say, feeling the need to go in women's bathrooms, or grooming schoolchildren and passing laws requiring schools to keep the grooming a secret from their parents.
 
This seems to be the study they're referring to:

Which is all about people who come into the shrink's office because they think they have a porn problem. That's a very particular population, and I absolutely do believe it's mostly Christians beating themselves up for going to Pornhub.

Meanwhile, the gooners are going on weeklong tranny midget clown incest porn binges and nobody takes notice because they don't think they have a problem.
 
Non-chemical addictions are absolutely a thing. Anything that triggers dopamine can be addictive.

It's why gambling addiction is a thing. If gambling addiction can be a problem, then anything can be an addiction in the right circumstances.
 
So who is Rory Reid of UCLA.

Degree in social work - BYU
Masters degree in social work - BYU
PHD in Clinical Psychology, Neuropsychology and Family Therapy all from BYU

He tries to present himself as a UCLA "professor" but at best he is an assistant professor and more probably just a guy hired into a research group at UCLA. IMO he plays fast and loose with his credentials and I wouldn't trust the guy.

Most of the other names he mentions (like Josh Grubbs) are not "leading researchers" in anything.



Wow. Science at its finest. We studied the studies of other people, combined their data and then drew our own conclusions.
He has a job at UCLA researching things, hence he's a UCLA researcher. I assume you're an ESL person because thats blatantly obvious to native speakers. I mean, you'd have to be some sort of retard to believe otherwise...
 
He has a job at UCLA researching things, hence he's a UCLA researcher. I assume you're an ESL person because thats blatantly obvious to native speakers. I mean, you'd have to be some sort of retard to believe otherwise...

He also helpfully puts Harvard Medical School at the top of his linkedin even though he did not attend it. He seems to have done some postgrad seminar there for less than a year which is apparently the same as going to the school.
 
Wow. Science at its finest. We studied the studies of other people, combined their data and then drew our own conclusions.
...that's how it's done. I forget the word for it, meta something or other, but there's a statistical use in pooling studies (besides the use of having a summary of it all) just like there's a use in having a statistical study and not just pointing to one single example.

Edit: How familiar are you with academia? Looking back on your post, it sounds like you're implying an assistant professor isn't a professor, like they're a gofer or something. That's not what an assistant professor is, they do the exact same job as associate and full professors. It's a rank in a hierarchy. Like if a graduate student is an apprentice (best way to compare it, shit-tier wages for free/discounted technical training), an assistant is a journeyman, a full is a master.

The difference is, at least as I understand it, that associate professors have tenure and assistants don't.


Porn is bad for you. I believe it. I don't think masturbating is bad at all. I think that one's a natural, normal behavior, stigmatized for reasons of neurosis. Isn't harmful to give it up, isn't beneficial either, is like blowing your nose. But I think that porn is different and half of the supposed benefits of giving up jerking off are people confusing jerking off with porn because they're so used to doing both. Bad for tons of reason. Severely disordered behavior (to be a voyeur). Too intense and encourages escalating to weird stuff or developing (short or long term) fetishes, which you see as much, I think, in sex addicts too (very oversexed celebrity types). Fucks up expectations (average woman can't compete with top pornstar). You'd have to be completely fried to not find a homely IRL naked woman a million times better than a beautiful naked woman through a screen, but it still takes some of the specialness out of it. Spiritually degrading to both parties involved (pornstar and viewer).

Some people handle it a lot worse than others. In that regard it's a lot like drinking: a really cheap (as in cheating) way of feeling good that is only a mild poison to most people, but is nonetheless a poison and the world would be better without, but now that it exists we're just stuck with it as a society. Wish society stigmatized pornstars and pornographers.

Crank your hog to your imagination, and preferably even then to a fantasy of a person that isn't real. (Problem with a real person, it can make you start to feel awkward around them, and you start to fall for an idealized version of that person that isn't the real thing.) Basically, just the less hard, the better.
Jerking it to fantasy > Jerking it to real person > Softcore > Hardcore romantic porn > Hardcore everything else > Hentai and other bullshit like that

I wouldn't describe myself as a porn addict - can go days without watching porn, watch only to jack off, lose all interest the moment it's done - but even then I find that for me it's like normalfags hooked on coffee, I come back to it. I wish I'd never happened across it as a kid, but I think the idea that you can actually keep a kid from stumbling across it is insanity. It's everywhere. (I discovered forums looking up vidya stuff. Somebody on a forum posted a photo of a beautiful woman in skimpy clothing. I asked who it was. Looked her up, discovered softcore porn, nudes. Would look at it a lot. Somehow wound up stumbling across Pornhub or something like that. It's funny how strange and intimidating that site was back then. I think porn' is, again, a lot like drinking: it's an acquired taste. Just like how a teenage boy/young man has to train themselves to like beer and liquor, they have to train themselves to like watching a woman get railed in the ass.)
 
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Huh I wonder if this author could possibly have an agenda.

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The researchers lay out their argument and theory extremely thoroughly, suggesting that Pornography Problems due to Moral Incongruence (PPMI) appear to be the driving force in many of the people who report dysregulated, uncontrollable, or problematic pornography use. Even though many people who grew up in religious, sexually conservative households have strong negative feelings about pornography, many of those same people continue to use pornography. And then they feel guilty and ashamed of their behavior, and angry at themselves and their desire to watch more.
If you don't feel like the porn is a problem, you won't report it. People from these religious households are taught that porn is bad and immoral, but the modern feminist stance is that porn is empowering for the people on the set, is normal "exploration and expression" for the people consuming it, and that violent and abnormal fetishes (BDSM, ABDL, furries and anime) are somehow contained in this little mental box. A man getting off on beating women or illicit drawings of 4-legged Pokemon means nothing about his character, and it obviously has no effect on how he sees women or animals.

If porn is a good thing, and you like looking at it so much, then why seek help for it?
 
There are dozens of threads on this very site that show that not only is porn addiction very real, it's like any other addiction in that it consumes your life, down to your personality.
Well, I think that can be true at the same time that the people seeing a shrink for "porn addiction" (who are not gooners) mostly need to be told "lol calm down".
Another angle to this is that I think a lot of husbands who get caught by the missus looking at porn like to have a medicalized excuse. "I'm just sick, I have an addiction but I'll get better!"

So I don't have a problem with a study saying "The people in this study aren't really addicts", because they're probably not. The actual addicts don't go to psychologists or enter studies. They just coom.
 
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