US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[TJT]

Yeah a 1970s MBA was a ticket to corporate executive making the big bucks. All without having to actually start a business or anything. An MBA means nothing to me now but it does help with understanding how to budget well in an organization. Which matters a lot at the director level.

 

[The Ugly One]

I think the clue is in the name. Boomers were a truly massive generation, nearly double the size of the silent generation. How do you parent a child generation that's so much larger than your own? They will vote for whatever they want and drown you out in the flood. As soon as they came of age they started taking control of society with massive protests and civil unrest, and they never really gave it back until now when they are beginning to retire and die.

Boomers took control in the 80s and 90s.

They were also pretty pissed off about Viet Nam

Boomers had the highest support for Vietnam of any age group of the time. The lowest support was WWII vets. 'Nam was mostly fought by Silents. There's overlap, of course. Early Boomers (born 1946-1952) could go. Boomers were, however, mostly in high school during the turbulent 60s.

It was a combination of suck and rule for their kids (Generation X)

Gen X are mostly the kids of the Silent Generation. Millennials are mostly the children of the Boomers. That's why Millennials (73 million) outnumber Gen X (65 million), not that there isn't overlap, plenty of late Gen Xers have early Boomer parents.

What mainly happened with Boomers is they were spoiled by their parents and grew up during mostly rapidly rising prosperity. The 70s didn't hit them too hard because they were either in college or just starting out, either way too young to have any savings to inflate away. They hit their stride in the boom years of the 80s and 90s. They didn't inherit a lot because their parents were the first generation to have Medicare and Medicaid, which most people do not realize claim all of your savings when you die if you go into a nursing home and can't afford to pay for it yourself.

They don't understand why any generation after them seems to be having a hard time, because to them, 1981-2005 is just how things are.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Petition to make a Tariff general thread?

its in happenings as the trade war thread

 

[CyrusHowler]

I feel like nothing is so emblematic of the democratic party of today than that 2016 video of the guy who was screeching at Trump supporters and going "You're fucking white males!!!" while being white himself

That was even earlier I think. It was 2015.
Owen Shroyer vs AIDS Skrillex and Carl The Cuck.

 

[The Ugly One]

I like to tell Europeans that if you start driving on one coast, east or west, and start driving for 8 hours each day, it will take you at least 7 days to reach the opposite side of the country. They usually shut up for a little while because they still can't imagine it.

My boss was a nice lady in Paris (big company), but not from France. She said, "At least you live in the same country as your parents and can visit them any time you want." I said "The drive from where I live to my home town is the same as the drive from Paris to Minsk." She was a little stunned.

 

[deleuzeon]

Boomers took control in the 80s and 90s.

You can think that, but they actually became a critical voting and marketing demo in the 60s when they hit adulthood.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

I got bad news brother (sorry double post)

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They're changing the story a bit:

How in the fuck did Boomers become more selfish than retarded inbred nobility?

They were always selfish. They grew up in prosperity in the 50s and 60s. They felt they were changing the world when they rebelled against culture and protested in the late 60s. Then they grew up, got jobs, liked money and became the "Me Generation" doing party drugs and discoing in the 70s. Then they became the "Greed Is Good" moneyloving rich in the 80s, ignoring their latchkey Gen Xer kids.

That's what I saw looking at their history and growing up with my friends. My parents are both "one of the good ones" because they didn't fit that stereotype and aren't committed to burning their wealth before they die, but I see a lot of that in others.

 

[The Ugly One]

You can think that, but they actually became a critical voting and marketing demo in the 60s when they hit adulthood.

The very first boomers didn't turn 21 until 1967. Then, as now, people in their early 20s were not a significant voting bloc. Voting age was lowered to 18 in 1971, which added more Boomers to the voter rolls, but they weren't a large cohort of voters until all the 50s kids were voting, which took until 1978.

Also, a generation doesn't have real power until they have money, and you just don't have much money until you're about 40, maybe mid to late 30s if you're lucky. The first Boomers turned 40 in 1986, and the last Boomers turned 40 in the 2000s, depending on where you say the cutoff is. So that makes the period of maximum boomer cultural influence the 80s and 90s. Most people just think Silents are Boomers, or they think the 60s radicals were Boomers because their Boomer parents loved their music as teenagers. David Lee Roth is a Boomer. David Crosby is a Silent.

The median Boomer was born in 1955. He was 8 years old when Kennedy was shot and 14 when Neil Armstrong landed on the moon, same year as Woodstock. He turn 18 years old the year Nixon ended the Vietnam war in 1973. He graduated college in 1977. He probably had his first kid in 1980, at the age of 25. In 1995, at age 40, he made it to middle management in a large company, divorced his wife, and remarried someone 10 years younger. In 2003, he was 48 and a little concerned about his son coming home safely from Iraq. The '08 crash freaked him out because, at age 53, retirement was looming. He then finally did retire in 2020.

You essentially have your entire concept of Boomers shifted backward by about 10-15 years and are mostly thinking of Silents.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Yes I expect the Chigger creatures that shut down their whole country because of a coof and royally fucked the world supply chains to crack under the smallest pressure.

its a country that quarantined the infected by welding their bug pod doors shut. I'm sure they can endure a starving mass by blaming america.

 

[Back me up!]

I am fully ready for Monday Morning April 7th

 

[The Ugly One]

TL; DR

These are Boomers:


These are Silents:

 

[Atlas Sneezed]

I like to tell Europeans that if you start driving on one coast, east or west, and start driving for 8 hours each day, it will take you at least 7 days to reach the opposite side of the country. They usually shut up for a little while because they still can't imagine it.

If I may, us Europeans normally can't grasp that each *state* in the US is what we would consider a country, not only size-wise but also culture-wise. Tell them that and they'll understand it.

 

[quaawaa]

If I may, us Europeans normally can't grasp that each *state* in the US is what we would consider a country, not only size-wise but also culture-wise. Tell them that and they'll understand it.

No they don't. They insist because everyone speaks English that every state is identical.

 

[Pod 042]

You know what? I'm perfectly fine with the Switch 2's price if it means the soyboys get filtered out.

While I agree with you and the general sentiment of the post. I want to make a point that the switch price has nothing to do with tariffs and everything to do with Nintendo's absolutely retarded decision to over spec the system because they want to reach a new audience, nintodlers are not that audience. The switch 2 has a 1920x1080 display with HDR10 support, and VRR up to 120 Hz. That display is better than most Americans TVs/computer monitors/phones and better than the steam deck. That's going to effect the cost a lot before even adding on the GPU which is custom built in collaboration Nvidia.

Based on specs the switch 2 isn't competing with the switch 1, it's competition is the steam deck, PS5 and PC. It's no surprise the price is higher than expected without even factoring in NoA greed. Just look at the launch titles, they're all current gen PC/console titles and not first party/Nintendo shit. The spec's of the switch 2, price and lunch titles tell me Nintendo is no longer confident that they can be 'the' handheld gaming company, they don't/can't compete with the mobile phone/gatcha market so they want to enter the console/PC gaming market instead so they made a product that is aligned with that price included.

OT: I don't believe for a second that the tariffs affected Nintendo pricing decision. Yes it's produced in Vietnam but Vietnam has already made trade agreements to lower tariffs to 0 making the US do the same. Trump's tariffs haven't been in place for even a week so no one outside of people working inside of imports or similar jobs has been impacted yet and complaining otherwise is just bull shit.

 

[deleuzeon]

Was thinking about Trump tweeting at Jerome Powell to lower the interest rates. I doubt they will do it, but if they did slash rates and we got a bunch of bullshit funny money flowing through the economy at the same as we slap tariffs on everyone else, the short term results of investment inside America itself might honestly be dramatic. Just another reason to fume that "the fed" even exists and controls our money supply outside the will of any elected official.

 

[babadook]

Trying to explain that to a Europoor is an exercise in futility.

A lot of them literally cannot conceive of a sign saying "250 miles till next gas" being true. Or that an hour commute at 70 MPH isn't that unheard of.

Countries come in different sizes, news at 11

 

[SIMIΔN]

I'm sure they can endure a starving mass by blaming america.

The media is pushing eating less, even without a blockade.

 

[Overly Serious]

Yeah, the Nanjing protests only a few months earlier were explicitly about getting rid of Africans. It came pretty close to a good old fashioned lynching when the Chinese students tried to roast the Africans alive by setting their dormitory on fire with them trapped inside. All in all, pretty based, but as far as I can tell there are no published photos of explicitly anti-African slogans during the Tiananmen Square incident proper.

Racism is contrary to official policy and Communist ideology and it was the government that brought the African students in in the first place. Admitting that the protests had racist motivations would give the government a black eye so in official accounts there's no mention of racism at all.

This is interesting. Did the government quietly change course afterwards or did they continue to bring in African students, if that's known?

can they fucking charge the white house or do some stupid shit already? trying to see some fucking killcams. also, trump really doesn't care about their feelings, all he's gonna do Is just keep on pushing. what's the point lmao

I don't think they can do that. They're still milking the J6 protests. If they go charging into another building (and they'd be a lot less likely to respect the ropes), they lose the moral high-ground they effect.

if Trump would've of just stayed on deportation and immigration, anti-DEI/woke, avoiding rhetoric to invade other countries and not having Musk in government or fucking up the economy, republicans could have enjoyed a long wins for decades to come.

I'm not wholly sure about that. US debt is up to 36trn. Obama printed his way out of a crisis and Biden did the same. America needs to change course at some point. And if not tariffs then what? Higher taxes? Print more dollars?

 

[Koruu]

If you want to make a Euro seeth, just tell them you have no interest in visiting their country.

"Bu-but our history! Our culture! We ARE important!"

"No"

 

[blue gopher snakes]

That's what I saw looking at their history and growing up with my friends. My parents are both "one of the good ones" because they didn't fit that stereotype and aren't committed to burning their wealth before they die, but I see a lot of that in others.

Yep the Boomers I know that fit the “spoiled little prince” stereotype all grew up relatively prosperous. Somehow they just forget that they had magical childhoods and benefited from their parents paying for college and down payments on houses and weddings and bail money for DUIs and all that and are fully committed to spending all their money on frozen margaritas and vacations before they die alone since they’ve alienated all their siblings, children, and grandchildren. Cursing everyone all the way since they never did anything wrong and it’s everyone else’s fault.

The ones I know that are alright grew up in pretty rough homes. Turns out actually having to work hard for what you have is character-building.

No they don't. They insist because everyone speaks English that every state is identical.

I would pay money and willingly participate if some Eurocuck wants to fly over here and tell a man from Whitefish that he and I are the same because we’re both American and both speak English. It might be the only time a Californian will be safe in a room with a man from Whitefish because he’ll be too busy killing the Eurocuck for insulting him.


I jest. But only a little. In reality the Montanan would probably not kill me unless I told him I had sold my CA home at enormous profit and was buying his neighbor’s house for cash at higher than asking. Then he’d be right to turn me into hamburger.

ETA: Europe is overrated. We have the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Monument Valley, Yellowstone, etc etc etc. You could dedicate your life to seeing all there is to see in North America and not get 25% through it.