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We can't cut them anyway, so resolving the trade deficit (impossible) is just an easy excuse. The country is going to be (if it's not already) in an unrecoverable financial situation due to debt within the next 10 years. The government could just refuse to pay because "fuck you, we're the most powerful country on Earth" but what happens after is unknown. Tariffs need to stay, and medicare and social security need to be abolished ASAP (but the taxes associated with them need to stay) if the country wants to have any chance of paying off its financial obligations.
 
We can't cut them anyway, so resolving the trade deficit (impossible) is just an easy excuse. The country is going to be (if it's not already) in an unrecoverable financial situation due to debt within the next 10 years. The government could just refuse to pay because "fuck you, we're the most powerful country on Earth" but what happens after is unknown. Tariffs need to stay, and medicare and social security need to be abolished ASAP (but the taxes associated with them need to stay) if the country wants to have any chance of paying off its financial obligations.
If they cut the programs but not the taxes I think every notable government official would be hacked to pieces by a mob
 
I’ve designed CNC coolants before, just a joke that people always blame it first.
It’s usually the boss that blames the coolant, because the guy running the machine tells him the tools are wearing out too fast and it probably means they have to slow it down because of chatter or whatever, and the step before was to change out the soft jaws or cut a new fixture, etc, but the boss heard a brag about feeds and speeds from a sales rep or read it on a site and has decided that marketing is truthful
 
Factories need White Collar “officer” staff to run them, perform R&D. I’m one of them here.
A lot of people are completely ignorant to the huge amount of white collar labor that factories can consume between regulation, operations and logistics. Documenting what you are using and how your disposing of shit, and keeping track of literal tons of raw materials and tooling collectively worth millions of dollars zipping around is a lot of work, even with computerization. After all, a good inventory system knows where the plastic pellets are, but it takes a salesman to negotiate a good contract price to buy them at. Especially if/when your starting to negotiate materials on invoice durations long enough to let them make and sell the product before they even pay for the feedstock. Same for all the human labor processing all that data to give the higher ups spreadsheets they can pretend to understand.
 
A lot of people are completely ignorant to the huge amount of white collar labor that factories can consume between regulation, operations and logistics. Documenting what you are using and how your disposing of shit, and keeping track of literal tons of raw materials and tooling collectively worth millions of dollars zipping around is a lot of work, even with computerization. After all, a good inventory system knows where the plastic pellets are, but it takes a salesman to negotiate a good contract price to buy them at. Especially if/when your starting to negotiate materials on invoice durations long enough to let them make and sell the product before they even pay for the feedstock. Same for all the human labor processing all that data to give the higher ups spreadsheets they can pretend to understand.
What’s funny is that labor is the least of the overhead. I’ve seen people make mistakes that wrecked the equivalent their annual wages in an instant and they don’t even get fired for it, because it’s hard to fill the spot they’d leave

The main problem with having factory workers is that people have been trained through public education to look down on factory workers

They turned every facet of the culture into a psyop to convince people we didn’t want to make shit anyways
 
If they cut the programs but not the taxes I think every notable government official would be hacked to pieces by a mob
I've said it before, I'll say it again. That's one of the things you never touch. The money the guns and the children.

If they got rid of the checks, that's when guillotines get brought out.
 
We’re pressing them because this is bigger than the trade deficit. Trump wants to collapse China and end the second Cold War

If we make a deal with Vietnam, China is fucked. They’ve been using the shit out of Vietnam to reroute
Vietnam has quietly been trying to work its way into America's good graces for years now. At least on things like security, because if anyone in the region hates the Chinese, it's Vietnam. They are technically communist, but Vietnamese communism was always nationalist first. If we can make things good for them and collapse China at the same time you'll probably be able to see the jungle Asian boner from space.

A lot of people are completely ignorant to the huge amount of white collar labor that factories can consume between regulation, operations and logistics. Documenting what you are using and how your disposing of shit, and keeping track of literal tons of raw materials and tooling collectively worth millions of dollars zipping around is a lot of work, even with computerization. After all, a good inventory system knows where the plastic pellets are, but it takes a salesman to negotiate a good contract price to buy them at. Especially if/when your starting to negotiate materials on invoice durations long enough to let them make and sell the product before they even pay for the feedstock. Same for all the human labor processing all that data to give the higher ups spreadsheets they can pretend to understand.
I work in manufacturing and I do procurement and inventory stuff. We're a small company, but we have engineers, sales and marketing guys, etc. People are missing that it's not just line guys. And then you've got all the supporting business too, even down to the guy who brings the lunch truck around. But I guess America's a service economy so you're only allowed to be a finance or tech bro or work stocking shelves at walmart forever. Because. There's invisible rules or something that declare it such. You can't have an economy that does more than one thing for reasons. You can't have service, tech, and manufacturing. At least America can't. For reasons.
 
The utter seething that people have over the concept of the middle class working in small factories, building things, developing technology, whether its toasters or drones is so great.
They literally built their entire stock portfolio and economic plan on exploiting foreign labor, and giving things to our literal rival states. They exploit tax loopholes, they took money from the taxpayer under false pretenses and paid themselves.
This is pure kino.
The idea that we "can't make things because who is going to make them??"
What are you retarded? The only reason this isn't happening is you blow a giant hole in our economy and mexicans, indians, and chinese people come pouring in with their tribalism.
Why the fuck would I care about your hedge fund, or your 401k ,or your stocks? That's a you problem.
I don’t care that my 401k took a hit because I’m not a Timmy. And more importantly I hate the status quo so much I’d sacrifice my entire 401k to end it:
I've said it before, I'll say it again. That's one of the things you never touch. The money the guns and the children.

If they got rid of the checks, that's when guillotines get brought out.
Yup. If on the other hand they eliminate income taxes they could install themselves for life and most wouldn’t care.
 
Factories need White Collar “officer” staff to run them, perform R&D. I’m one of them here.
I find it funny that everybody either thinks we're going to do Soviet jobs programs with the factories or just let everything run wild unsupervised.
 
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