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This is just a theory, but what Trump is doing is executing the Yarvin playbook.

Trump 45 was too retarded in thinking that he can bring back the 80s economy:

- Boomers are too selfish to even give back to an economy they raped for their own selfish desires. This weekends protest proved they all want to go back to Summer of 69 when they had no kids and complain about “The Man.”
- Gen Xers are too busy trying to get their kids to love the slop they loved when they were growing up. They are still crying over Cobain blowing his brains out.
- Millenials, the greatest Boomer casualty, are too brainwashed by public education, universities, capeshit and Harry Potter that they unironically use V for Vendetta quotes as political discourse.
- Gen Z hates all of the groups above and wants to burn everything to the ground.

It took Biden’s retarded presidency to help people realize centrist Democratic policies are a disguise for the Obama-Clinton monolith to get what they want. Trump also realized his allies can’t be gay Nick Fuentes, “I’m just asking questions” Candace Owens, the Beanie, Crowder’s gay ass, my Pillow dude, and the Daily Wire.

The Obama-Clinton monolith because of their pettiness handed Trump his best allies: Tulsi, RFK Jr., Peter Thiel, Vance, and the most important ones, Joe Rogan and Elon Musk.

Thiel and Vance are both Yarvinists, so it’s no secret that Trump finally learned that to create a new America, he needs to destroy the old government and build a new one. Just like Hamilton, Lincoln, and FDR which is directly from Yarvin’s writings.

Whether you think Trump actually wants to save America, the West, or that he wants to be a tyrannical dictator doesn’t matter. He’s going to do it.
Moldbug? Which writings?
 
Who the fuck knows what we were doing in Afghanistan. Seems like we stopped off to grow some opium.

As far as Iran goes, who care what happens as long as we blow up their uranium enrichment?
Most people won't care if their are airstrikes but if there are talks of invasion after that, there will be some outrage.
 
As far as Iran goes, who care what happens as long as we blow up their uranium enrichment?
When Syria collapsed, Israel immediately blew up all the Russian-given air defence sites capable of shooting down their refueling planes for sorties into Iran. A few weeks back was an intelligence leak, of which I never followed up on if was true or not, that Israel was amassing troops and air power for a raid into Iran to stop the enrichment facilities.
Trump then phones Putin and gets him to agree that Iran can never have nuclear weapons, threatens the shah that he’s being a retard when he refuses to come to a deal, then vaporises the Houthi command structure in an afternoon all the while some in his admin murmur about supporting Israel in any upcoming conflict. Trump then states that there will be consequences if they don’t agree to a deal.
You do the math.
 
They still have the rest of the world to market their goods to.
In one of the videos I watched the commentator mentioned the EU will likely be forced to implement tariffs so the Chinese don’t wreck their manufacturing sector even more.

I think it was this one.
He's not wrong, really. The "lose the war" part is fucking retarded though, I don't understand that bit at all. I think he's just trying to send a public message to Trump, and i'm not sure what his game is with it.
The way he said it could backfire. I wouldn’t word it that way to Trump.
 
When Syria collapsed, Israel immediately blew up all the Russian-given air defence sites capable of shooting down their refueling planes for sorties into Iran. A few weeks back was an intelligence leak, of which I never followed up on if was true or not, that Israel was amassing troops and air power for a raid into Iran to stop the enrichment facilities.
Trump then phones Putin and gets him to agree that Iran can never have nuclear weapons, threatens the shah that he’s being a retard when he refuses to come to a deal, then vaporises the Houthi command structure in an afternoon all the while some in his admin murmur about supporting Israel in any upcoming conflict. Trump then states that there will be consequences if they don’t agree to a deal.
You do the math.
I knew we had a shitload of assets staged there. I don’t know if we have a ground invasion force, though. I thought it was a couple carrier groups, like to say “we will bomb the shit out of you if we catch a whiff of a nuke”
 
When Syria collapsed, Israel immediately blew up all the Russian-given air defence sites capable of shooting down their refueling planes for sorties into Iran. A few weeks back was an intelligence leak, of which I never followed up on if was true or not, that Israel was amassing troops and air power for a raid into Iran to stop the enrichment facilities.
Trump then phones Putin and gets him to agree that Iran can never have nuclear weapons, threatens the shah that he’s being a retard when he refuses to come to a deal, then vaporises the Houthi command structure in an afternoon all the while some in his admin murmur about supporting Israel in any upcoming conflict. Trump then states that there will be consequences if they don’t agree to a deal.
You do the math.
there's no shah in iran

also Iran is going through an energy crisis right now and a water shortage crisis. Even Tehran doesn't have enough water and there is strict water rationing. The people of Iran already hate their government but they're suffering a lot. A US/Israeli airstrike could knock the regime off center and off their perch of power

they're freaking the fuck out, thats why tucker is sperging about an iran strike when everyone is freaking out about tariffs
 
I knew we had a shitload of assets staged there. I don’t know if we have a ground invasion force, though. I thought it was a couple carrier groups, like to say “we will bomb the shit out of you if we catch a whiff of a nuke”
To speculate, we’ll probably have full intelligence sharing and operational support to Israel if this goes hot, if not active participation by way of missiles and planes. No ground game though.
there's no shah in iran
Used to be, mixed up my terminology.
 
Moldbug? Which writings?



Just a few excerpts
So the true election is not a coup. It’s a coup alternative. It’s something you do, so that you don’t have to have a coup. That said, if successful it achieves the same result: peaceful regime change. A successful coup is, of course, a bloodless coup. An unsuccessful coup can be quite nasty. In an unsuccessful true election, nothing happens at all.

And if the plan is successful, the result is: a reset. A reboot. A reinstall. Out with USG 4; in with USG 5. Out with the present government, which has been proven incompetent; out with the Constitution, or what these days goes by its name (if you want to disturb a supporter of USG 4, ask him to explain the relationship between the Constitution and constitutional law); in with… something else. Something new.

FDR was not actually elected in a true election, and nor was America’s only other dictator, Lincoln. But both governed as if they were.

Yes. FDR (like Lincoln) was a dictator. He governed America more or less personally by decree. Obviously, many people worked for USG in FDR’s time; but, as with a normal corporate CEO, none could flout his will and survive professionally. FDR was not quite in charge of the courts; Lincoln could disregard the judicial process, but FDR couldn’t.However, these exceptions should be seen as minor details in an overall pattern of general personal government.

Those who hanker for a New Deal 2.0 should remember that FDR invoked a permanent state of emergency in 1933, just like Hitler. And just like Hitler, he ruled for life. For the next 12 years, he and his minions governed America by whim, like Dick Cheney cubed. It’s true that FDR found himself constrained by the Supreme Court. It’s not (entirely) true that when he fought the Court, he lost. And there was certainly no one else in America who could contend with him!

(Nor was FDR, as commonly asserted, a “traitor to his class”—anything but it. FDR’s beliefs, or at least his speeches (in one so seldom praised for candor, the inference of any actual conviction is at best an exercise of imagination) can indeed be studied as almost perfect reflections of the intellectual fashions of America’s apex upper class, the socialite-socialist aristocracy. These fashions have changed somewhat since 1933, but not that much.)

FDR could not, it’s true, order someone arrested or shot for no reason at all. At least, not so far as I know. We still have a lot to learn about this era. FDR did not have the powers of Lincoln, who could have anyone arrested, and did—but not shot. Lincoln was no Lenin or Hitler. For the purpose of managing the normal operations of government, however, FDR, Lincoln, Lenin, Hitler, Henry VIII, Cromwell and Napoleon exercised more or less the same level of authority: personal sovereignty.

So this remedy, hardly new to history, is not even new to us. Rather, America has taken the Dictator Pill in the lives of those now living—75 years ago. And 75 years before that. And its pet historians, though the grant-fed dogs they are, celebrate these episodes as marvelous renewals. Does it compute? Does any of this crap compute? No, gentlemen, we will have the truth!

FDR, personally, was not much of an administrator. FDR was a charming hereditary socialite and a fine political actor. As an administrator, he gets a D for aptitude, a C for effort, and a D for results. (As an actor, his performances turn the stomach today. Try listening to an FDR speech, or worse—watching a propaganda newsreel. This incredible, heavy-handed, flagrantly mendacious schmaltz was pure dynamite for the unsophisticated radio listener of the ’30s.)

But in his entourage, FDR had some of the most talented administrators in the history of the world, and those administrators had more or less full executive authority. For instance, if anyone in the lives of those now living has held the job of “CEO of USG,” that would be Harry Hopkins. Colonel House dreamed the dream—Harry Hopkins lived it.
EDIT: The worst thing that happened to Demshits was that Trump won the popular vote.
 
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In one of the videos I watched the commentator mentioned the EU will likely be forced to implement tariffs so the Chinese don’t wreck their manufacturing sector even more.
Meanwhile in yurop:
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lmao. Not without some conditions. Do it, Trump.
 
I get that.

I'm more openly wondering why the retailers themselves never more fully committed to an online model. You hear about people in charge getting their golden parachute and fucking off to ruin another company, so why not cut deals with or sell to Amazon instead of going bankrupt and losing everything any way?

I am not a businessman, I'm just openly saying/asking based on a narrow view to try and expand it. Chill.
Cutting deals with Amazon helped kill quite a few retailers in the late 90s, like Toys R US. They farmed out their online store to Amazon, Amazon built relationships with their suppliers and then declined the renewal of the contract and started undercutting the brick and mortar former partners when they launched their own online presences later.
 
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