The Economic Collapse of 2025 - Are you tired of winning yet?

niggas are still unironically coping that Trump is going to back down soon now.

once the supply chain disruption starts, prepare for the bloodbath of the century.
If trump keeps going tit for tat we are going to end up with 200%+ tariffs on Chinese shit by the end of the week, taxes have never been this cool!!!
 
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Ultimately a major player in this trade war is China and China simply doesn’t have the capacity to weather the storm like the United States does. The United States effectively subsidizes Chinese manufacturers by purchasing cheap shit at prices your average Chinese person can’t afford. This helps drive the cost of consumable goods in China down to a level that is manageable for your average Chinese person making less than 12,000 yuan a month. The only thing the Chinese government can do is directly inject funds into these companies to drive prices down, but they’re already struggling with keeping the yuan from being devalued as is. Their market saturation in other western countries with the money to spend is already tapped and third world nations can’t even afford to pay Chinese prices, much less American.

I won’t even get into the absolute shit show this is going to cause on the Chinese meat production industry, since they purchase an obscene amount of animal feed from the United States. What makes this worse is that there isn’t a feasible alternative nation on the planet for China to purchase animal grains from.

The United States will absolutely hurt from this, and I’m not altogether certain this is a great idea or a bad idea, but I do know the Chinese will hurt more. The CCP is going to have to play ball at some point; I wouldn’t be surprised to see them coming to the table in a few weeks or less. They want to appear strong, but they just can’t let the standard of living in Chinese cities slide any further than it already has.
you mean soy beans , they can easily buy that from south America. also the communists have no problem starving their own people. And only 15% of Chinese exports go to the united states.
 
And, uh, sorry to go here but Trump’s mandate was to deport people. Not to vindicate your poorfag father who lost his factory job.
It doesn't take a political genius to understand these two things are related. Bringing back those jobs would mean nothing if hordes of illegals immediately flood in and undercut Americans on wages or work under the table.

If you're looking for a central message in all of this, I think a good one might be "We can't keep undermining ordinary citizens' futures because slavery is really useful." Otherwise, why did poor Abe Lincoln even bother freeing the niggers?
you mean soy beans , they can easily buy that from south America. also the communists have no problem starving their own people. And only 15% of Chinese exports go to the united states.
I'm not sure famine, cannibalism and trying to fight naval blockades during an economic crisis fits Xi's vision of a heavenly future.
 
A lot of you underestimate how quickly American companies will be able to get up and running. If there's money to be made, companies will quickly jump in and start producing immediately. Thats how capitalism and competition works.

We're not talking about government run projects. Corporations, private companies and entrepreneurs will move quickly to take advantage.
Nobody is going to spend billions of dollars to rebuild American industry unless they have a good reason to believe that it will pay off in the long term. Trump raising tariffs with no larger plan and no concern for economic reality is not a good reason. It will be far safer for companies to just continue what they're doing and enjoy the higher prices.
 
Nobody is going to spend billions of dollars to rebuild American industry unless they have a good reason to believe that it will pay off in the long term. Trump raising tariffs with no larger plan and no concern for economic reality is not a good reason. It will be far safer for companies to just continue what they're doing and enjoy the higher prices.
YOU BUILD HERE BECAUSE ITS AMERICA. FUCK YOU.
 
The reason Trump is befriending Russia is so that when he bombs Beijing, Russia will be our allies with 0% tariffs and China will be all alone.

Good luck competing on the free market while having to rebuild all your major cities, Wang.

This post is not factually accurate.
And Russia saw that Trump can't control Zelensky or the EU. That's why peace talks have stalled.
 
Actually, I hope the Tariffs on the EU are permanent.

Kick the Germans/Stellantis while they’re down.
From an European perspective, let me just give you one little thought nugget: Europe doesn't tariff its enemies nearly as much as it tariffs the United States.

Yet we're the ones to throw a fit when the US notices that and decides to say "yeah, you know what? miss me with that shit."

We get free protection from sea niggers trying to disrupt trade over the oceans, a gigantic military umbrella that we never have to pay for, and then we hit what little products they can viably export to the European market with so many barriers that it would be easier to buy real estate on the Moon than to buy a single pack of Reese's peanut butter slop.

The only American shit we can buy locally is stuff that was produced in Eastern European factories, and even that shit gets up to a 24% markup just for existing on a shelf. Fuck anything our unelected cunts in the EC have to say about this shit. It's all utter fucking hipocrisy, and the fact that there are people in the US defending Europe on this should be considered an exercise in a self-humiliation fetish.

In Eastern Europe, there are a lot of people cheering it on hoping it buck-breaks the EU into submission the way they "asked for solidarity" from the Eastern members when they were cut off the Russian teat with cheap gas.
 
I must be reading this wrong. Are you telling me most Americans want to end up like the Ukrainians and Russians, dying in grisly and often humiliating ways on-camera so that your enemies ghoulishly celebrate the loss of life?
Tell me you aren't American without telling me you aren't American.
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Nigga, you live in Russia, did Doordash cause dissolution of USSR?
Tell me you're a retard without saying you're a retard.
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the amount of contempt and disgust shown in this thread for men sitting in a factory and producing physical goods would be surprising, but it's no secret that women, europeans (so also women), and jews (double women) would happily walk over 100 white men and brown child slaves with spiked shoes if it meant getting their fast fashion and cheap plastic junk just 5% cheaper

they have zero concept of putting in an honest day's work to produce goods that sustain their local communities. they have no loyalties other than to themselves
 
Unironically yes. Fuck Chinks. Literally the spawn of Satan.
They’re on the list but I want to own the Chinks here!

Anyway, I feel like a lot of people I’m arguing with are former Bernie Bros who larp as working class and want to change the economy more than they want non-whites gone.

Trump became president to destroy Obama’s legacy, which would actually mean his economic attacks on the middle class as well as his racial politics. Which this, so far, doesn’t comport with.
 
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Nobody is going to spend billions of dollars to rebuild American industry unless they have a good reason to believe that it will pay off in the long term. Trump raising tariffs with no larger plan and no concern for economic reality is not a good reason. It will be far safer for companies to just continue what they're doing and enjoy the higher prices.
Yes they will. You don't understand, nobody on the planet currently has the military might to say no Trump's tariffs. At the end of the day, trade wars often becomes actual wars. We've spent the past 50 years demilitarizing the planet. They used us a mercenary army. There is no combination of nations not named "China" that Trump placed tariffs on that has the military might to stand up to the US. At the end of the day, dollars don't matter. All that matters is the Bomb Dollar. America is unmatched in the Bomb Dollar. Other countries will capitulate whether they like it or not.

That being said, yes. It's going to get better. Relatively quickly. The Boomers are the most risk averse faggots on the planet. They're going to move very swiftly to avoid losses.
 
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