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Should be a wild four years.

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Really? How about all the times in the last 20+ years you've violated the rules of the WTO?
Human rights and
Between this thread and the happenings thread, I've learned a lot, namely that every nigger who thinks they know how economics works hasn't got a fucking clue, myself included. I'm an absolute retard on this matter, and it's a shame others like myself can't reflect inwardly and recognize that. Seriously, fag after fag trying to explain how the magic economy line is real and giving in-depth explanations as to why their bullshit theories are right and yours are wrong. Niggers, you sound like autists trying to explain the mysteries of anime. I don't give a fuck how the Kamehameha works; it's not even real. All I'm interested in is watching Goku nigger-bomb the ever-loving fuck out of this week's opponent, and China isn't even Vegeta much less Frieza, so just sit back and be entertained.
Amen to that.
 
Yes. China performs hostile takeover type economic warfare, using the full power of the state to out compete entire industries for the express purpose of shutting down production in other countries.

So England selling their national steel company to a chicom company was fucking retarded and they should have recognized what the goal was.
Is Canada having its tariffs paused? I'm assuming not.
No, they’re China’s bitch. They need to pay for being a pass-through
 
Between this thread and the happenings thread, I've learned a lot, namely that every nigger who thinks they know how economics works hasn't got a fucking clue, myself included. I'm an absolute retard on this matter, and it's a shame others like myself can't reflect inwardly and recognize that. Seriously, fag after fag trying to explain how the magic economy line is real and giving in-depth explanations as to why their bullshit theories are right and yours are wrong. Niggers, you sound like autists trying to explain the mysteries of anime. I don't give a fuck how the Kamehameha works; it's not even real. All I'm interested in is watching Goku nigger-bomb the ever-loving fuck out of this week's opponent, and China isn't even Vegeta much less Frieza, so just sit back and be entertained.
Seeing the Europoors seethe and kvetch is almost as fun as Trump doing stuff tbqh
 
Pretending like the people who want to reevaluate America's relationship with Israel came to this conclusion organically without any third worldist or groyper influence is disengenious. If that were the case, these numbers would have changed in 2017 and we wouldn't see the numbers change post Oct 7th as these groups gained massive popularity on X. Stop pretending like your viewpoint is pure.
Anecdotal, but I came to that exact conclusion organically. I could give less of a fuck about third worlders and groypers. Israelis/Jews fall into the same bucket as third worlders and groypers as far as I'm concerned.
 
Damn, the "TRUMP CAVED" narrative died so fast that you already have to pivot to "DA JOOOOOOOOOOS"?
Sad days, Jimmy.
Current cope is they're claiming the 5 minute market crash followed by a huge rally was AKSHUALLY a bad thing because Trump supporters bought the dip. And that's somehow unethical for them to do so.

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I got a wild idea, let's make a black list of Kamala Harris voters and insist that all of those citizens live under the same policy Biden implemented indefinitely. Just split some of Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico and make them the alternative history attraction; it'll be like disaster terrorism but you don't need to leave home. Hell, get some armored vehicles, add some panoramic ballistic glass to some American manufactured hummers and offer Safari-like tours through New New York. "We promise you will witness at least one human death or your money back!" Add that to the list of PPV ideas right beneath PPV Judicial executions.
 
The most hilarious thing about the tariffs is that it just demonstrates that one meme is true, the entire world does, in fact, belong to America.
It makes me deeply, deeply angry that people in the position to know better told us for decades we sucked and it was our fault we were losing manufacturing. It was us blue collar guys living too high on the hog.

I’ve had a Chinese guy come through a factory here or there. Vietnamese are better, and the Vietnamese are only better than Americans when you match one who cares against an American who’s checked out.

Now you look at what factory workers earn vs cost of living, and we’re worse off than the chinese. Expand spoiler to see

To determine the wage-to-cost-of-living ratio for a U.S. factory worker versus a Chinese factory worker, we need to compare their average wages to the respective costs of living in each country. This ratio provides insight into how far a worker's income stretches relative to local expenses. Below, I'll outline the process using available data and reasonable estimates as of April 9, 2025.

U.S. Factory Worker
- **Average Wage**: Recent data suggests U.S. manufacturing wages vary widely by region and experience, but a commonly cited average for production workers is around $20–$28 per hour. For this calculation, let’s use $24 per hour (a midpoint), which translates to approximately $4,160 per month (assuming a 40-hour workweek and 4.33 weeks per month).
- **Cost of Living**: The cost of living in the U.S. depends on location (e.g., urban vs. rural), but a national average for a single person’s basic monthly expenses (housing, food, transportation, utilities, etc.) is roughly $2,000–$3,000. Using Numbeo data, a moderate estimate for a single person living modestly outside major metro areas is around $2,500 per month (excluding luxuries or savings).
- **Wage-to-Cost-of-Living Ratio**: $4,160 ÷ $2,500 = **1.66**. This means a U.S. factory worker earns about 1.66 times their basic cost of living, leaving some disposable income or room for savings.

Chinese Factory Worker
- **Average Wage**: Wages for Chinese factory workers vary by region (e.g., coastal cities vs. inland provinces) and industry. Recent estimates place manufacturing wages at around 5.51–7.55 USD per hour, though monthly figures are more commonly reported. In 2022, the average yearly wage in manufacturing was 97,500 CNY (about $13,732 USD at 1 USD = 7.1 CNY), or roughly $1,144 USD per month. Adjusting for wage growth and urban factory settings (e.g., Shenzhen or Shanghai), a more current estimate might be $1,200–$1,500 USD per month. Let’s use $1,350 USD as a reasonable average.
- **Cost of Living**: China’s cost of living also varies significantly. In industrial hubs like Guangdong or Jiangsu, a single factory worker’s basic expenses (shared housing, food, transport) might range from 2,000–4,000 CNY monthly ($280–$560 USD). Many factories provide subsidized room and board, reducing out-of-pocket costs. Assuming a worker pays 2,500 CNY ($350 USD) monthly with some subsidies, this reflects a modest lifestyle in a factory region.
- **Wage-to-Cost-of-Living Ratio**: $1,350 ÷ $350 = **3.86**. This suggests a Chinese factory worker earns about 3.86 times their basic cost of living, implying a higher relative purchasing power within their local context.

Comparison and Context
- **U.S. Ratio**: 1.66
- **China Ratio**: 3.86
- **Relative Difference**: Chinese factory workers have a wage-to-cost-of-living ratio approximately 2.33 times higher than U.S. factory workers (3.86 ÷ 1.66).

This disparity arises because, while U.S. wages are much higher in absolute terms (about 3–4 times Chinese wages), the U.S. cost of living is disproportionately higher (around 7–8 times China’s for similar basics). China’s lower living costs—due to cheaper housing, food, and subsidized benefits—stretch wages further. However, this doesn’t account for quality-of-life differences (e.g., healthcare access, work hours, or environmental factors), which are harder to quantify.

Caveats
- **Regional Variation**: U.S. costs soar in cities like San Francisco (e.g., $4,000+/month), dropping the ratio below 1, while rural areas might exceed 2. In China, coastal cities like Shanghai (4,000+ CNY/month) lower the ratio, while inland provinces raise it.
- **Subsidies**: Chinese workers often receive housing or meals, boosting their effective ratio beyond our estimate.
- **Data Gaps**: Exact figures fluctuate with time, exchange rates, and local policies (e.g., minimum wage hikes).

In summary, a typical Chinese factory worker’s wage covers their cost of living more comfortably (ratio ~3.86) than a U.S. factory worker’s (ratio ~1.66), reflecting China’s lower living costs despite lower nominal wages.

The explanation for this is that our “higher nominal wages” were the wealth that our leaders transferred to China, which were part of the wealth multipliers from domestic manufacturing that I have referenced repeatedly. Our “relatively high wages” were justified by spending our lives making shit for other people and being net-producers instead of net-consumers so everyone else could be a net-consumer.
 
Current cope is they're claiming the 5 minute market crash followed by a huge rally was AKSHUALLY a bad thing because Trump supporters bought the dip. And that's somehow unethical for them to do so.

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They say this like they are implying inside trading - but Trump's tweet was public. Anyone could have taken his advice and bought stocks.

They went after Musk for tweeting about Tesla stock prices, but Trumps tweet is nothing like that.

They are just mad they can't time the market like the people paid to time the market do.
 
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