General Wrestling Discussion

[I'mma real anime gurl]

I can't help wonder if indie wrestling is getting worse or my tastes have shifted over time. I was never a forumhead, but I was with the IWC in rolling my eyes at Cornette for not "getting it." I liked the Kota Ibushi vs blowup doll match, I laughed at chuck Taylor's grenade spot, and I even got a kick from the Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan skit. This? I don't know, something about this in particular irks me in a way that none of that other nonsense did, and it isn't just the fact that Kidd Bandit is a worthless weirdo.

Honestly I can't help but laugh at it, because honestly it's ridiculous to see it unless the cereal is coated with the poison glands that the Japs use or he hid tacks in each one of them meticulously. But it's just basic bitch cereal and the only thing that's poisonous is probably the Red 40 or Yellow 5 in it. To be honest, how could any professional sell it seriously they'd be too busy eating the shit to do a convincing job of selling the poisonous cereal. Jim Cornette is right about comedy wrestling not because of the blow up doll match or because of a small skit but because if your gimmick is just a joke then you're just at the same level as a garbage wrestler who just uses weapons to get themselves over.

 

[Whatisgoingon]

I can't help wonder if indie wrestling is getting worse or my tastes have shifted over time. I was never a forumhead, but I was with the IWC in rolling my eyes at Cornette for not "getting it." I liked the Kota Ibushi vs blowup doll match, I laughed at chuck Taylor's grenade spot, and I even got a kick from the Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan skit. This? I don't know, something about this in particular irks me in a way that none of that other nonsense did, and it isn't just the fact that Kidd Bandit is a worthless weirdo.

It's not just you, things have changed for the worst. I used to love to dip my toes in watching the indie scene back in the early 2010s, and I used to usually have a great time when I did.

Somehow along the way, probably after AEW and NXT scooped up basically any worthwhile talent, it turned into a freakshow of no dimes shitters, troons and people who couldn't even job in WCW in the 90s running the indie scene.

It's sad, I feel bad for the young wrestlers trying to gain a following in this shit show of an indie scene, we are a long ways removed from the Chris Heros and Claudio Castagnolis that were internet darlings back in the day.

 

[Magic Sun Daddy]

It's not just you, things have changed for the worst. I used to love to dip my toes in watching the indie scene back in the early 2010s, and I used to usually have a great time when I did.

Somehow along the way, probably after AEW and NXT scooped up basically any worthwhile talent, it turned into a freakshow of no dimes shitters, troons and people who couldn't even job in WCW in the 90s running the indie scene.

It's sad, I feel bad for the young wrestlers trying to gain a following in this shit show of an indie scene, we are a long ways removed from the Chris Heros and Claudio Castagnolis that were internet darlings back in the day.

Facts. Hindsight is 20/20, but even back during ROH's golden years, even the most casual viewer tuning in at the time could see bright futures for a large chunk of the talent pool. Some made it big like Punk, Tyler Black, Styles, some fell short like Low Ki and Austin Aries, and some... well, some are Mox, who sniff success than fall so short that it leaves people questioning whether or not he really had any potential to begin with.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

I can't believe we're at a point in society where people are throwing a fit because a slightly edgy comedian is on a god damn wrestling program. How do they watch any wrestling done before the PG era without bursting into flames?

that's the funny thing, they don't, they just burn down everything that was,is,or ever will be fun because of their conception of morality

It's not just you, things have changed for the worst. I used to love to dip my toes in watching the indie scene back in the early 2010s, and I used to usually have a great time when I did.

Somehow along the way, probably after AEW and NXT scooped up basically any worthwhile talent, it turned into a freakshow of no dimes shitters, troons and people who couldn't even job in WCW in the 90s running the indie scene.

It's sad, I feel bad for the young wrestlers trying to gain a following in this shit show of an indie scene, we are a long ways removed from the Chris Heros and Claudio Castagnolis that were internet darlings back in the day.

it is sad to see but the few young people who get into the industry who actually aren't a complete outlaw clown are generally either trained via directly the Performance Center or they have to deal with being an actual wrestler in a sea full of outlaw clowns for a chance at getting noticed by WWE, and im not in favor of a WWE Monopoly, but its clear they have no serious competition thats actually good

 

[BigJoey41X]

I can't believe we're at a point in society where people are throwing a fit because a slightly edgy comedian is on a god damn wrestling program. How do they watch any wrestling done before the PG era without bursting into flames?

I do not care who this guy is or that he's a chud, he's an unfunny retard who is terrible at commentary and I would prefer if I never see him in WWE programming ever again.

 

[CyrusHowler]

It's sad, I feel bad for the young wrestlers trying to gain a following in this shit show of an indie scene

Cardona’s trying to light the way but people don’t listen to him.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

Cardona’s trying to light the way but people don’t listen to him.

the sad thing is most of these Indie Shitters wouldn't survive a 90s locker room, Taker would sentence Kidd Bandit to 10 pure strikes

 

[NOXIN]

"The Gwars"

Into the world maggot you go human filth.

 

[JustStopDude]

At this point, I think the storyline is that Moxley hocked the belt for pills and can't bring himself to tell Tony.

It's the only way that I can make sense of continuing this title reign.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

At this point, I think the storyline is that Moxley hocked the belt for pills and can't bring himself to tell Tony.

It's the only way that I can make sense of continuing this title reign.

they'd probably just make a new one in that scenario, but it also wouldn't surprise me if Tony continues to Fumble and is banking on Darby's survival of Everest for All In,

 

[JustStopDude]

they'd probably just make a new one in that scenario, but it also wouldn't surprise me if Tony continues to Fumble and is banking on Darby's survival of Everest for All In,

I mean storyline wise. The whole constant cheating and never losing the belt. How do you end it and move on?

In my mind you go with finally his reign is over and they open up the stupid case in the middle of the ring, and it's empty.

Moxley has a breakdown in ring. Tony offers him rehab. That gets him off TV for months. Then he can come back as a baby face and take on the rest of the death riders who have just devolved into a meth gang.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Moxley. The storyline is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the storyline will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Mox's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these promos, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Moxley truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Moxley's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Moxley's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Moxley tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

 

[Blackstar]

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

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as someone who enjoys both Henry and Hogan, this is pretty funny honestly.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Into the world maggot you go human filth.

what, you don't like music bands like The Devos or The Kmfdms?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

What the fuck did I just find

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That is some super high quality production value and stage setup there. Techno Destructo is a wrestler that Vince would've thought up in 1995

Here's Kidd Bandit in a match against a guy named "CerealMan" at some indie, and this is what happened during the match.
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That is just beyond retarded. The whole gimmick is retarded but if he had pulled out the cereal and started eating it in the corner, it'd have been a lot funnier

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

That is just beyond retarded. The whole gimmick is retarded but if he had pulled out the cereal and started eating it in the corner, it'd have been a lot funnier

really, a lot of the shit going on in the American Indie scene is an absolute disgrace,they don't take shit seriously at all, like WWE has obviously had comedy gimmicks before but even then it wasn't to the extent of the outlaw mudshows you see going on in clips like that, even as someone who generally enjoys current WWE I wouldn't want it to have a monopoly but neither AEW or most other promotions currently make a good case to even check them out on an irregular basis. if there was another high-budget promotion that took itself seriously and wasn't run by a total money mark we'd at least be getting places with current stuff outside of WWE, but we cant always have nice things I guess.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

That is some super high quality production value and stage setup there. Techno Destructo is a wrestler that Vince would've thought up in 1995


That is just beyond retarded. The whole gimmick is retarded but if he had pulled out the cereal and started eating it in the corner, it'd have been a lot funnier

Nino Hamburgesa occasionally does a high spot of eating a burger while standing on the turnbuckle for a power up
Funny af visual for Techno Destructo was one of the Megacon conventions
The Orange County Convention Center has multiple halls, so nerdfest was nextdoor to the cheerleading championships
So there were various photos taken on the main hall outside the con if the So-and-so High School Flying Whaterver Cheer Team in full gear and makeup doing their group pose, and Techno Destructo in his gear in the middle looking GWAR as usual

 

[Magic Sun Daddy]

Nino Hamburgesa occasionally does a high spot of eating a burger while standing on the turnbuckle for a power up

Every time you post shit like his, it reminds me of Vinesauce reacting to RLM's video making fun of the names of metal bands.

Mike: "This band is called Satan's Bloody Stool Factory"

Vinny: Oh, those guys? *proceeds to rattle off half a dozen facts about said band completely off the top of his head*

You're like that for lucha libre.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Every time you post shit like his, it reminds me of Vinesauce reacting to RLM's video making fun of the names of metal bands.

Mike: "This band is called Satan's Bloody Stool Factory"

Vinny: Oh, those guys? *proceeds to rattle off half a dozen facts about said band completely off the top of his head*

You're like that for lucha libre.

I used to watch a lot up to coof. It was an embarrassment of riches the stuff that was legit free, often live.
So I got to see a lot of guys move up the card
And I got to see Nino Hamburgesa

I'm not a hundred percent sure but I think the power up gimmick was roughly around the time (cubsfan says) one of the main Lucha Underground guys was ghost writing for Vampiro booking
That era had Marty The Moth in his AAA Original Do Not Steal version Marty Cashew (because he's nuts!) with a specific variant Marty The Shaman who had a brown paper bag to huff paint fumes from. He would share this bag with his teammates to give them a powerup, as is common for shamans

Now that I think about it Nino was more like Kensou from KoF