Helicopter crashes in New York City’s Hudson River; sources say 6 dead

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NEW YORK (WPIX) – Multiple people are reportedly dead after a helicopter crashed into the Hudson River off Manhattan on Thursday.

Sources told Nexstar’s WPIX and the Associated Press that six people died in the crash. Two people briefed on the rescue efforts told The New York Times that three children and two adults had been pulled from the water, but their conditions were unknown.

Authorities have not yet provided any information regarding how many people may have been on board or their conditions.

Fire officials confirmed the crash on the New Jersey side of the Hudson River was first reported shortly after 3 p.m. ET on Thursday.

Videos posted to social media show showed the Bell 206 mostly submerged, upside down in the water. Police were seen nearby with police helicopters overhead.

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The fire department said it had units on scene performing rescue operations.

The rescue craft were near a site close to the Manhattan waterfront, near the end of a long maintenance pier for one of the ventilation towers for the Holland Tunnel.

The skies over Manhattan are routinely filled with both planes and helicopters, both private recreational aircraft and commercial and tourist flights. Manhattan has several helipads that whisk business executives and others to destinations throughout the metropolitan area.

Over the years, there have been multiple crashes, including a collision between a plane and a tourist helicopter over the Hudson River in 2009 that killed nine people and the 2018 crash of a charter helicopter offering “open door” flights that went down into the East River, killing five people.

 
The men who built the machines are dead and the generation who maintained it are now retiring in masses. Get used to this, this Telephone game of generational passing of information is going to go horribly wrong when you have to simplify everything due to our generation can't read due to being raised on brainrot devices and niggers who need even more dumbed down instructions to do anything.
This or we could find a way to blame a diversity hire.
Women are good at following instructions, assuming this is a maintenance related issue causing the crash. I'm betting on diversity hire on this case.
 
The men who built the machines are dead and the generation who maintained it are now retiring in masses. Get used to this, this Telephone game of generational passing of information is going to go horribly wrong when you have to simplify everything due to our generation can't read due to being raised on brainrot devices and niggers who need even more dumbed down instructions to do anything.

Women are good at following instructions, assuming this is a maintenance related issue causing the crash. I'm betting on diversity hire on this case.
Could have been prevented if we invested in training the new generation instead of replacing them with thirdies.

But boomers only understand "line must always go up" and "make money NOW" so...
 
(edit 2) I just saw the really low res video of what looks like the helicopter going from forward flight to a what looks like a left yaw with the tail boom separating, then dropping before the rotor separated. If this was an incident involving mast bumping, over-articulation took the tail boom off before the rotor separated, I'm keeping the below unedited for information though. It's hard to say why it would happen in this order since tail rotor failure/loss should result in a right yaw, I will be watching for more details to come out.

Upon hearing about this yesterday and seeing the video of the rotor spinning into the river my immediate thought is that it's most likely a result of what is known as "mast bumping" which the Bell 206 and other teetering rotor head helicopters are known for being susceptible to. In simplest terms the head that holds the rotor blades to the shaft has to have articulation for the flight controls, and there are multiple ways to do it but one of them is particularly susceptible to the rotor head over-articulating and causing extreme stresses to the shaft and hitting the tail boom. There are multiple prior accidents involving this, basic helicopter training is done on helicopters that are susceptible to it and it is reinforced that you attempt to keep a positive load on the rotor and use control inputs sparingly in low load situations.

Mast bumping graphics:
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A Bell 206 rotor head:
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Now it's possible the mast bumping did not occur on this particular flight but one before it and the failure happened as a crack propagated, but there has been one 206 mast bumping crash that involved a bird strike and the resulting control inputs by the pilot, and it's easy to speculate that something similar may have happened here.

Edit this video is a certified helicopter training classic:
 
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0 reason for civilians to be in helicopters

Tourist rentals? I'm going all-in on "Poor maintenance lead to a bearing not being greased, excess heat/friction caused it to grenade."
I can almost guarantee it. Helicopters are nightmares to work on, their lubing regimens are a major pain


The thing is a failure like this means whatever maintenance function that should have been happening wasn't happening for a LONG time
 
The men who built the machines are dead and the generation who maintained it are now retiring in masses. Get used to this, this Telephone game of generational passing of information is going to go horribly wrong when you have to simplify everything due to our generation can't read due to being raised on brainrot devices and niggers who need even more dumbed down instructions to do anything.

Women are good at following instructions, assuming this is a maintenance related issue causing the crash. I'm betting on diversity hire on this case.
brother, it's a helicopter. the methamphetamine addled greatest generation pilots could fly and maintain them despite being the generation that codified the sloppy low effort boot camp shit the boomers worship. brazilians can maintain a helicopter. they can build em. brazilians! just because you don't understand how it works doesn't mean it's some kind of arcane knowledge, it's just a machine that's more complicated than you understand
 
This makes me sad those kids died. In one video you can see a child's shoe in the debris on the water. And a purse.

But yes this reminds me of those fucking duck boats and I'll never go on one ever. I think that in 6th grade there was a field trip but I didn't go. Might have been sick.
 
The men who built the machines are dead and the generation who maintained it are now rThe men who built the machines are dead and the generation who maintained it are now retiring in masses. Get used to this, this Telephone game of generational passing of information is going to go horribly wrong when you have to simplify everything due to our generation can't read due to being raised on brainrot devices and niggers who need even more dumbed down instructions to do anything.
Nah, I still blame the Boomers 10,001%. Why? I know Boomers and they virtually all fall for the #1 Parenting Trap that you should never, ever, ever, EVER do when you have kids. It goes a little something like this:

"Hey Dad, can you teach me how to cut the lawn?"

"Sure son, here. First you turn it on, good. Okay now go over it in even colum-NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NOT THAT WAY!!! ITS GOING BE UNEVEN!!!! ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED!?!? GO AWAY, I'LL DO IT MYSELF!!!!"

And then they wonder why they have useless kids who don't know how to do basic things when they're adults. In fact, I don't think I have met a single boomer parent that isn't like this. They have 0 tolerance for any kind of failure and are autistically incapable of letting their kids do things their way, so the kids grow up learning nothing. That's how you got this retarded generation in the first place. At some point they asked their parents how to do things, probably multiple times, but every time they failed or made a mistake, or didn't do things their way-their parents chased them out of the room. Usually without giving them a chance to fix it. Eventually, the choice became very clear. I can either go and ask my Mom or Dad to show me how to do something and get yelled at, or I can spend my afternoon playing video games and saying fuck it. Most kids chose to say fuck it. Then 10 years later the parents are horrified to hear their kid can't cut the lawn or change their oil. Boomers in my entire lifetime of experience are noticeably bad at playing well with others. It's some kind of weird generational thing. Virtually all of their kids missed this developmental mark because their parents simply have no tolerance for deviation or failure.

The best part is when they complain about how their 20 year old can't change a tire and you ask them "Did you ever show them how to change a tire? Or did you show them for 5 minutes, yell at them for doing something wrong and chase them away?" And their brains literally fry with confusion like the fact it was their responsibility to teach them just dawned on them and they're not willing to accept responsibility. They usually always default to "I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TEACH THEM, IT'S SIMPLE. THEY SHOULD JUST COME OUT THE WOMB KNOWING". Yeah, okay that's why I had to teach your 30 year old son how to rotate tires.
 
brother, it's a helicopter. the methamphetamine addled greatest generation pilots could fly and maintain them despite being the generation that codified the sloppy low effort boot camp shit the boomers worship. brazilians can maintain a helicopter. they can build em. brazilians! just because you don't understand how it works doesn't mean it's some kind of arcane knowledge, it's just a machine that's more complicated than you understand
I'm not necessarily talking about the helicopter itself, I'm talking about the machines that produces the helicopter parts and so on. The whole production line so to speak. They parts you ones thought were reliable (as a maintainer), they are not the same. Maintain know what parts go to what, and what is quality and not etc, but ones the brands lose their "recipe" to create their stuff, it's downhill from there.

In this case, you can understand how the helicopter works, but nobody today knows how to design one from scratch and why things are designed as they are. Everything is an iteration from an old design that most people are clueless of why the overall design was picked in the first place.
 
*boomers not teaching their kids*
Its not just their kids, its in the professional sphere as well. They don't take on apprentices and they won't train co-workers because either after they "retire" they want to consult for stupid ammounts of money or they think everyone is as selfish, conniving, and backstabbing as them and think anyone they train is planning some game of thrones shit against them.
 
Do these tourist helicopters have to follow the river? I guess what I’m thinking is it’s ’lucky’ the river caught the crash and not a sidewalk or a building. RIP to them all, I hope it was over before they knew to be scared, poor kids.
 
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