US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[SugarKane]

It would be doable if only they didn't force me into their constant political debate.
Like my brother in Christ , shut the fuck up, i just want to eat.
Sometimes it just there and your stuck in a schizo-meltdown about muh orange man bad.

The rest of them, I just ignore their hot takes and try to get through the BBQ without being in the center of a scene, especially if there's no chance of changing anyone's mind.

I envy you.
But for a lot of people.... loved ones are truly lost in the matrix.
edit: i still ask myself how the fuck i didn't turn into a blue haired cunt.

 

[Amelia Troonheart]

Idk lol.

You're born with the tism or not at all. I have it. Some of my nephews do. It's genetic. I got mime from my dad.

You can be born with it for other reasons than genetics. Developmental disorders can result in abnormalities at birth including improperly formed spines, missing limbs, etc. Just because it's present at birth doesn't mean it's necessarily a genetic problem.

If there's a developmental issue happening during gestation it would be present at birth but not due to genetics.
As stated there are environmental factors which increase the risk of autism profoundly, which would suggest its not purely genetic, rather its developmental.

Developmental doesn't mean it can happen at any time point. Only when the windows for that development is open and active. Such as during gestation.

 

[WelperHelper99]

It would be doable if only they didn't force me into their constant political debate.
Like my brother in Christ , shut the fuck up, i just want to eat.
Sometimes it just there and your stuck in a schizo-meltdown about muh orange man bad.

I envy you.
But for a lot of people.... loved ones are truly lost in the matrix.
edit: i still ask myself how the fuck i didn't turn into a blue haired cunt.

I got to ask, since you're a foreigner; why do they even talk about Trump? Most of us couldn't care what happens in your country as long as it doesn't affect us.

 

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

Whatever is causing the autism I hope it's something as simple as the vaccines, so we can fix it. I've been dealing with autistics my entire life and I want them to stop existing.

Honestly, theirs one type of autistic person who's actually bearable to be around.

the person that actually tries to act normal. I don't want to hear about your political theories about Donald trump being the next Adolph Hitler, and how we need to overthrow the government, I want to know if you want to join me for some drinks and watching the game. no one wants to hear complete political bullshit coming out of people's mouth, especially who they just met, and your facilitating that to a degree of 10. Just. Shut. Up.

if you sperg out at protests because the CurrentThing™ is pissing you off, just take a chill pill, and realize it's going to happen regardless. protests in the modern era never work besides name changes and reorganizing funds by politicians. remember, Nothing Ever Happens.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

JP Morgan's Market Intel team thinks there no liquidity in the market.

We've already had 4 years of really high inflation. Is this related to the housing market? 6.1 Million Americans are in default on their mortgage.

 

[WelperHelper99]

You can be born with it for other reasons than genetics. Developmental disorders can result in abnormalities at birth including improperly formed spines, missing limbs, etc. Just because it's present at birth doesn't mean it's necessarily a genetic problem.

If there's a developmental issue happening during gestation it would be present at birth but not due to genetics.
As stated there are environmental factors which increase the risk of autism profoundly, which would suggest its not purely genetic, rather its developmental.

Developmental doesn't mean it can happen at any time point. Only when the windows for that development is open and active. Such as during gestation.

I'm telling you what I know. My dad had it. Made him great at math and carpentry. I have it because of him. So does my brother. There could be other factors yeah. I just know that there are carriers.

 

[cain_destroyer1]

You see this all the time in the trans community, or really any niche LGBT space. guarantee 70/80 percent of them have a Carrd page where they list their mental illnesses, like that's something to advertise.

Depression? go the fuck outside, touch grass for a week straight and build or fix something with your hands. it works miracles.

Anxiety? get some fucking balls and just do it. worst thing that can happen is they say no or disagree, such is life

OCD? idk how to solve that to be honest, I guess make yourself break the cycle?

Gender dysphoria? combination of going outside, eating healthy, and actually having social spaces in real life, not pilling yourself up on ssri's and joining tranny furry discord communities or 4chan boards. also stop watching porn as much as possible.

I agree with you broadly that insular communities full of people of a certain type of issue (autism, troons, some mental health issues) tend to reinforce and excuse the unwanted behavior. Such as troons thinking it's okay to be creeps, or depression communities excuse "mental health days."

Though, I disagree that mental illness can be solved by pushing through it like you describe. These are, generally, real chemical and neurobiological issues (except for gender dysphoria). Wallowing in it doesnt make it any better, and through effort people can learn coping and masking skills but treating their issues as fake doesnt mean they go away.

If forced to function in a normal manner through societal pressure, people will naturally learn the strategies they need to fit into society. It sucks and requires more effort on their part, but it is what it is.

This used to be the case before the internet, if you were mentally ill before the internet, you rarely knew more than a couple people dealing with the same issue so you had to learn to cope. (Example someone with depression having to get a job and get out of the house which reduces their depression)

Now with the internet, people find entire communities of people with the same issue and dont feel the same pressure to conform to societal standards. That same person with depression can find entire communities excusing their bad behaviors (it's okay to skip work, take a Mental health day!) and showing them unhealthy ways to cope, like how to get on disability instead of getting a job which does not help their depression.

 

[SugarKane]

I got to ask, since you're a foreigner; why do they even talk about Trump? Most of us couldn't care what happens in your country as long as it doesn't affect us.

Because our media only talk about how Trump is the world bad guy and everyone else suffer because of him.
Our problems ? his fault.

I swear to God it is giving me gray hair at my age by the insane shit they pull out their ass.
Worst part I've noticed it the older generations that are the most ((brain washed))
I would argue younger ones take news from social media instead of the traditional mediums.

You think MSM is bad in the states ?
It crack-cocaine where i reside.

 

[Dumbledore's Onlyfans]

Where do you guys live that you can't talk politics with family? Talking politics is fun with my dad.

That's the point, you can talk about it with your dad, but not with your lesbian aunt, your single-mother cousin, your autistic little brother, and your gay uncle sitting there too. If you do that, you're just guaranteed to start a fight and ruin Christmas.

Better to keep your power level low and thank God you don't have to see these people very often, than starting a family free-for-all that NOBODY will thank you for, and that will accomplish NOTHING. If you already know they're libtards, there's no point in talking to them about politics en masse. You won't change their minds and the whole thing will devolve into an ugly argument for no benefit. Save political arguments for when there's a chance of some benefit, and those chances are far better in one-on-one conversations than in a group setting.

Besides, nothing stops a liberal rant faster than a chilling silence. Arguing feeds their victim complex, but failure to acknowledge or reward a purity spiral stops them cold.

 

[Amelia Troonheart]

I'm telling you what I know. My dad had it. Made him great at math and carpentry. I have it because of him. So does my brother. There could be other factors yeah. I just know that there are carriers.

I've said that autism is not purely genetic, I never said it wasn't genetic at all.
Genetics loads the gun a lot of times, but environment pulls the trigger.
If it were partially genetic (predisposition) and partially environmental (exacerbatory or triggering factor) it would mean that people with a family history should be extremely careful and get close monitoring during pregnancy or address problems beforehand to drastically reduce their chances of their child developing it.
Along with that, while genetics runs in family, so do habits and traditions which could contribute to clustering within families without assuming that it is unpreventable with intervention.

Edit: as others have stated, I talk openly about politics with a few people. Everyone else I blank face and say I don't watch the news.
Sometimes they'll bring it up around me anyway and I'll make noncommittal noises until they move on.
Interestingly I've noticed a lack of doomerism around normally TDS suffering individuals when it comes to tariffs. The general perspective seems to be "this could backfire, this could result in a recession, he's gambling" while one said "my concern is it may be isolationist instead of for leverage..."
It's much more measured and leaving open the possibility it's not the end of the world, E.g. could be a nothing burger or may even benefit the US.

 

[George Lucas]

Ok something really weird just got dropped in the case vs Ryan Routh, the golf course assassin.

The Trump DoJ filed a motion that is so top sekret that we (the public) can't see it. Ok not that weird but it's even more super sekret that the Defence can't see it, so the dudes own lawyer isn't allowed to read it. It's ex parte and in camera so it's 100% to be kept off the record and the only the judge herself can read it and only in her own chambers with some sort of CIA Spook watcher.

What the fuck/who the fuck is Ryan Routh?

Compare to the rest of the shit they were fine filing in public it really really REALLY makes me want to know who this dude was working for and who was running him.

To bad so sad we plebs will never get to see whatever this shit is.

The fact the defense can’t see it means the motion has nothing to do with Ryan Routh.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

You hit the nail on the head. Normatively intelligent kids with autism learn to mask their symptoms and function like everyone else, but when they are diagnosed as autistic the focus becomes on excusing their behavior and negating the consequences. Then the kids can be placed in special needs programs, or they find hobbies online, with other autists who make it seem socially acceptable to be weird and not adapt to wider society.

Do they even have autism or are they just developing at a different rate to their peers? It's pretty normal for kids in my family to be ahead of their peers intellectually but very socially innocent and late to a lot of pre-teen/early teen social norms. It looks a bit like high functioning autism but it's not. There is no learning to mask, just eventually catching up on the social stuff and adapting enough to know that nobody else is as interested in mag-levs as you are this week.

 

[Potatoherder]

About half of NASA’s main research laboratories are in deep red states; their congressional reps will negotiate to keep that funding there.

That’s all Congress does anymore.

It's almost like no one has even gotten a cliffnotes of the Art of the Deal. The senate hearing of the new director even had a contradiction to what the proposal suggest. By doing this is lowballs everything and also putting in a guy who said he will do the opposite it's an attempt to speed up the appointment to start fixing Nasa.By also shifting the focus on 'science' it will allow massive cuts in the other parts go a bit less noticed.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Because our media only talk about how Trump is the world bad guy and everyone else suffer because of him.
Our problems ? his fault.

I swear to God it is giving me gray hair at my age by the insane shit they pull out their ass.
Worst part I've noticed it the older generations that are the most ((brain washed))
I would argue younger ones take news from social media instead of the traditional mediums.

You think MSM is bad in the states ?
It crack-cocaine where i reside.

That feels bad man, I'm sorry.

That's the point, you can talk about it with your dad, but not with your lesbian aunt, your single-mother cousin, your autistic little brother, and your gay uncle sitting there too. If you do that, you're just guaranteed to start a fight and ruin Christmas.

Better to keep your power level low and thank God you don't have to see these people very often, than starting a family free-for-all that NOBODY will thank you for, and that will accomplish NOTHING. If you already know they're libtards, there's no point in talking to them about politics en masse. You won't change their minds and the whole thing will devolve into an ugly argument for no benefit. Save political arguments for when there's a chance of some benefit, and those chances are far better in one-on-one conversations than in a group setting.

Besides, nothing stops a liberal rant faster than a chilling silence. Arguing feeds their victim complex, but failure to acknowledge or reward a purity spiral stops them cold.

I guess I'm literally the asshole uncle lol. I don't personally care. You either love me or you don't. It doesn't mean I will be rude around more liberal members. But I'll defend my positions if need be; I'm no doormat.

I've said that autism is not purely genetic, I never said it wasn't genetic at all.
Genetics loads the gun a lot of times, but environment pulls the trigger.
If it were partially genetic (predisposition) and partially environmental (exacerbatory or triggering factor) it would mean that people with a family history should be extremely careful and get close monitoring during pregnancy or address problems beforehand to drastically reduce their chances of their child developing it.
Along with that, while genetics runs in family, so do habits and traditions which could contribute to clustering within families without assuming that it is unpreventable with intervention.

I mean proper discipline is the most effective treatment. You got to learn to tard wrangle yourself. Monitoring and all this shit sounds like kooky abortion talk.

 

[Levitcus prime24]

Because our media only talk about how Trump is the world bad guy and everyone else suffer because of him.
Our problems ? his fault.

I swear to God it is giving me gray hair at my age by the insane shit they pull out their ass.
Worst part I've noticed it the older generations that are the most ((brain washed))
I would argue younger ones take news from social media instead of the traditional mediums.

You think MSM is bad in the states ?
It crack-cocaine where i reside.

I do wonder why they think trump is Hitler 2 like what exactly makes trump like funny moustache man?

 

[Mister Fister]

This used to be the case before the internet, if you were mentally ill before the internet, you rarely knew more than a couple people dealing with the same issue so you had to learn to cope. (Example someone with depression having to get a job and get out of the house which reduces their depression)

Now with the internet, people find entire communities of people with the same issue and dont feel the same pressure to conform to societal standards. That same person with depression can find entire communities excusing their bad behaviors (it's okay to skip work, take a Mental health day!) and showing them unhealthy ways to cope, like how to get on disability instead of getting a job which does not help their depression.

Part of depression is learned helplessness.

 

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

Though, I disagree that mental illness can be solved by pushing through it like you describe. These are, generally, real chemical and neurobiological issues (except for gender dysphoria). Wallowing in it doesnt make it any better, and through effort people can learn coping and masking skills but treating their issues as fake doesnt mean they go away.

I wouldn't say that i'm calling their issues fake. rather, i think that going outside, which is shown to increase happiness the more your outside, as well as working on something like a car, or bike, can seriously help cope with depression. it makes you think that you've accomplished something, that you have purpose in doing that task. SSRI's only wildly change the chemical balance in your system, so you think your ok, but whenever you get off it, it ends up hitting like a truck,

 

[Fuck Bankers]

I do wonder why they think trump is Hitler 2 like what exactly makes trump like funny moustache man?

Doing anything to help White people, even on accident, is Nazism.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

If the economy collapses can trump just declare martial law and keep power forever. Pretty pls

 

[Fuck Bankers]

If the economy collapses can trump just declare martial law and keep power forever. Pretty pls

Trumps old. Even if he lived another 4 years after this term, after he died the country would go to civil war 2.