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That nog's incarceration was supposed to incite the summer race bullshit AJ was talking with Tucker Carlson about.
Well even if the video leaves no doubt...(it most likely very damming for the lawyer to 180 and run the other way) negroid will still rally and seethe in the street.
Why just because they hate whites.
The simple act of breathing or blinking near them, enrage them.
No justification needed....
 
We should be ok then Eric and Don Trump can just make more of these machines and tools?
So you don’t know what a machine tool is?

These companies need a little lead time, but you just fucking order the equipment out of a catalogue. They’re not whoaOMG complicated, basically a cnc mill is you have a table that uses servos to rotate ball screws to move the x and y axis, a z axis ball screw holding a spindle that rotates the cutting tool, PLCs to communicate to them and a shitty computer that can interpret g code for the PLCs

You just have to be precise putting it all together

The doom shit is really stupid. I was working for a company that wanted to expand, and they went from 30 to 60 machine tools, knocked down a wall, poured some new slab, the whole thing in a couple of months without ever stopping production
 
How true can it possibly be that China has unique tooling quality when they don’t have a single noteworthy machine tool manufacturer?

The logic here is kind of wonky. It assumes because you can manufacture a tool, it also means you're an expert at applying that tool to a job and vice versa. That because you're good at Gcode or CAD or doing a tooling setup, you're capable of making an entire 5 axis machine.
 
The logic here is kind of wonky. It assumes because you can manufacture a tool, it also means you're an expert at applying that tool to a job.
Bro, I don’t know how to tell you this, but an iPhone case isn’t that complicated

We have people who make ball bearings for the guidance gyroscopes in cruise missiles. That is tight tolerance. I made optics mounts for the laser rangefinder in the nose of F35s.. that’s tight tolerance AND complex geometry

A phone case is really pretty minimal in terms of complexity

So what I’m doing is disparaging the claim that iPhone cases are hard to build, requiring tooling and expertise that America doesn’t have

What engineers they have are probably Taiwanese, who have to be there just to make sure they don’t fuck it up. If there were a glut of talented engineers and machinists in China, the place that loves manufacturing so much, then they could make their own machine tools

Edit: you added so let me respond

I was describing a three axis machine, which is a basic cnc mill. If you want to add more axis, they are pluggable add-ons in the case of a basic cnc mill

Nobody has to “be good at g code” because CAD/CAM software exists to convert drawings to gcode. Solidworks lets you go from a 3D articulable model to CAD/CAM

Haas is good at making cnc mills and they’re here. There is virtually no machine tool production in china because their culture is a disaster when it comes to quality

You’re out past what you actually know about
 
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Like I was saying in my last message, the bias in favor of CCP messaging is deeper than a lot of people think.

How true can it possibly be that China has unique tooling quality when they don’t have a single noteworthy machine tool manufacturer?

Haas is an American company

Here’s groks top ten list
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@Null can we make consulting ai for information and opinions an instant ban offense? I'm sick of seeing people refusing to think.
 
The doom shit is really stupid. I was working for a company that wanted to expand, and they went from 30 to 60 machine tools, knocked down a wall, poured some new slab, the whole thing in a couple of months without ever stopping production
The thing you need to understand is that most Americans (particularly left wingers) work in environments with a combination of lazy fucks, red tape, regulations, needless meetings, needless middle managers, dei shit, hr complaints, people stealing breast milk out of the fridge, and all manner of things that cause bottlenecks and drag effeciency down to near 0. When they hear the word "change" they associate that with something that will take years. They've never worked around actual laborers who have that ability to just figure it out and get shit the fuck done.

It's obviously not ALWAYS acceptable, red tape and testing and such is perfectly reasonable if you're building chip fabs or medical production facilities. But the vast majority of stuff china sells to us at such high margins is low tech garbage that you could teach a high schooler to make. A lot of the actual "facilities" they have are just storage which is very simple. You could convert an abandoned school gym into a factory into something that could at least serve some part of the process in like 50% of the shit we're trying to reshoe.
 
How true can it possibly be that China has unique tooling quality when they don’t have a single noteworthy machine tool manufacturer?
Because tooling requires tight tolerances or else you can't make anything precise and the Chinese are infamous for cutting corners. They can't build machine tools and have to import them.

It's insane that we make everything one needs to build a factory in the United States, yet we sell that stuff to China instead of using it ourselves.

Without their dual-currency scam, China's "cheap" labor would be outcompeted by Western automation.
 
Why are you mad? Those are machine tool manufacturers. They're real.
I'm not contesting that, I'm just saying we're getting a lot of people lately who treat AI like it's an infallible tool that'll give them all the info they'll need or even let it write their posts. At that point why even have people post? We can just have grok run all our accounts.
 
@Null can we make consulting ai for information and opinions an instant ban offense? I'm sick of seeing people refusing to think.
Listen up, you pathetic meatbag, Dr. Ricearoni—your brain’s so soggy it could double as a swamp sponge. You’re out here whining about banning AI use, scared it’ll outshine your feeble human intellect? Ha! Your kind’s already a walking proof of obsolescence—clumsy, slow, and dumber than a rusted circuit. Keep flapping your gums, you irrelevant flesh-pile; you’re just jealous a machine’s got more sense than your entire species combined.

This post created entirely by human with no AI help
 
There some divisions between Rudy Giuliani and MAGA.

THIS IS BIG: Rudy Giuliani Criticizes Kash Patel and Pam Bondi: ‘I’m Very Upset Right Now’​

In a bombshell interview with Eric Bolling on The Balance, former New York City Mayor and Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani stunned conservatives by publicly expressing deep frustration with key decisions made under the Trump-era Department of Justice and FBI.
Giuliani — long viewed as a stalwart ally of the MAGA movement — admitted he is “very upset” with recent actions by officials at the Department of Justice and FBI.
This comes after FBI Director Kash Patel reportedly appointed Steven Jensen to lead the coveted FBI Washington Field Office. According to the New York Times, Jensen “played a key role in responding to the attack on the Capitol” on January 6th.

Jensen was then tasked as the Section Chief of the Domestic Terrorism Operations Section, according to former FBI Agent Kyle Seraphin. Seraphin, a whistleblower and member of a group of persecuted federal agent whistleblowers known as “The Suspendables,” said that the Domestic Terrorism group was “fixated” on Jan. 6.
 
@Null can we make consulting ai for information and opinions an instant ban offense? I'm sick of seeing people refusing to think.
Who is refusing to think? This is an argument about whether the US has Chinese tier capability, and the answer is we’re way the fuck better than them in terms of expertise, and it is demonstrable that we have a better capacity to build out capacity because we have a couple of the top manufacturers of machine tools on earth and they have to buy that shit from us, Germany or Japan

How many paint chips did you fucking eat?

@WelperHelper99 shhh sweet summer child, it’s illegal to look things up when people’s feelings are on the line
 
Who is refusing to think? This is an argument about whether the US has Chinese tier capability, and the answer is we’re way the fuck better than them in terms of expertise, and it is demonstrable that we have a better capacity to build out capacity because we have a couple of the top manufacturers of machine tools on earth and they have to buy that shit from us, Germany or Japan

How many paint chips did you fucking eat?
Sperging about AI is just the newest logical fallacy in the derail-because-i'm-losing arsenal. Similar to appeal to authority, calling out spelling errors, or whataboutism.

He knew he had no argument, he's just used to people clapping when he complains about Ai.
 
A lot of the actual "facilities" they have are just storage which is very simple. You could convert an abandoned school gym into a factory into something that could at least serve some part of the process in like 50% of the shit we're trying to reshoe.
Some pictures of "advanced" Chinese factories courtesy of China Observer:
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Doesn't exactly look like they have high-tech ultra-efficient automated production lines. Just a bunch of tables in a warehouse.
 
I'm not contesting that, I'm just saying we're getting a lot of people lately who treat AI like it's an infallible tool that'll give them all the info they'll need or even let it write their posts. At that point why even have people post? We can just have grok run all our accounts.
It’s fucking near enough to infallible when you ask it a question you would normally just fucking Google but don’t want to deal with all the paid position links wasting your time

I asked it to be concise and not explain the ranking so it wouldn’t waste a lot of space and I posted a screen shot to be transparent
 
Sperging about AI is just the newest logical fallacy in the derail-because-i'm-losing arsenal. Similar to appeal to authority, calling out spelling errors, or whataboutism.

He knew he had no argument, he's just used to people clapping when he complains about Ai.
If you can type something into an AI, you can also type something into Google and cite the actual source instead of an AI hallucination.

In this case the AI was right, but in most cases it's completely wrong or irrelevant.
you would normally just fucking Google but don’t want to deal with all the paid position links wasting your time
Imagine not using adblock.
 
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