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Time for ‘shock therapy’ — how to get our 7 million dropout men back to work​

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Nicholas Eberstadt

President Trump wants to get America’s vast army of “dropout” men back into the workforce. Attention to this problem is long overdue.

Nearly 7 million men in the prime of life — over a tenth of the 25-to-54 age group — are neither working nor looking for work these days.

But Team Trump is trying to fix the problem with the wrong tools.

They argue that trade policy (tariffs) and industrial policy (special treatment for manufacturing) will reverse the long-term flight from work by men, by creating high-paying jobs to lure them back to work.

This approach may sound sensible to some. Unfortunately, it is likely to fail — even though the White House could succeed through other pro-work policies.


Once upon a time in America, working-age men without jobs were unemployed laborers.

But that’s ancient history: Today, for every “prime age” man who is actually unemployed — out of a job but looking — there are three who are neither working nor looking for work.

That means the overwhelming majority of jobless men nowadays are NILFs (for “not in labor force”). And unemployed men differ fundamentally in both mindset and behavior from NILF men.

The former consider themselves part of the labor force; the latter do not.

The former generally respond to labor market incentives; the latter generally do not.

Thus, while unemployed men tend to be out of work for just a few weeks, NILF men tend to be long-termers — often lifers.

Furthermore, only a tiny minority of NILF men say they are jobless because they could not find work. Even during recessions, most give other reasons.

Incentivizing helplessness

Millions of NILF men live work-free existences financed by an array of disability programs and their associated “poverty” benefits.

This disability archipelago incentivizes helplessness, and at a terrible cost in human potential.

America’s disability system is so dysfunctional that no one in DC can tell you just how many people are currently getting benefits from its crazy-quilt of subcomponents (SSDI, SSI, Social Security, veterans’ benefits, state-level disability programs, worker’s comp programs — and more).

Before the pandemic, however, I estimated that over half of America’s prime-age NILF men were getting benefits from one or more of these programs — and that over two-thirds lived in homes taking in at least one disability benefit.

‘Disability’ programs

That would have been over 3 million direct recipients and over 4 million indirect beneficiaries, of roughly 7 million NILF men ages 25 to 54.

The Social Security Administration’s disability programs, SSDI and SSI, are the one part of the greater disability archipelago we know the most about. According to their numbers, working-age beneficiaries on the disability rolls grew sevenfold from 1965 to 2023.

Most of that explosion in claims was for afflictions of “nervous sense and organs” or “musculoskeletal system and connective tissue” — medical gray zones. Doctors can determine whether a patient has whooping cough or a broken leg, but there is no conclusive test for sad feelings or back pain.

It is a critical error to treat the NILF problem as an unemployment question. It will not be solved by more jobs or better workplace opportunities, the way unemployment would.

Six decades of rising dropout rates for prime-age American men attests to this.

Unlike the unemployment rate, which follows the business cycle, the prime male NILF rate has risen with eerie regularity through boom and bust alike for decades — almost wholly unaffected by national economic conditions.

Remember 2022? After the COVID pandemic, America was in the midst of an unprecedented peacetime labor shortage.

Yet with nearly 12 million positions open, and employers almost begging for applicants, NILF rates for prime-age men barely budged.

Millions of those unfilled jobs during the “Great Resignation” did not require high school diplomas, only the “skills” of showing up at work, on time and sober.

But the NILF men did not come — even though close to half had at least some college.

Consider, too: Back in 2022, about 800,000 of those unfilled slots were in manufacturing.

If idle dropout men did not flock to available factory jobs then, why should we expect them to be lured to future factories built under tariff threats?

The miracle of the market does not cure social pathologies. All too many male workforce dropouts are detached (from society), dependent (on government benefits and pain meds), and defeated.

These men will not be tempted to rejoin the workforce by good paychecks alone.

We need other approaches.

Try ‘shock therapy’

Instead of continuing to pin hopes on obviously ineffective labor market “pull,” how about instead trying “shock therapy push”?

Back in the 1990s, a “welfare reform” worthy of the name brought millions of single mothers back into the workforce, a win-win for their families and for society.

Why not try the same now for our NILF men?

A disability system overhaul that protects the truly needy while promoting a work-first principle might do wonders for America — not least for a great many dispirited men on the couch.

Washington manifestly lacks the will to reform a long-broken disability system.

So why not let Elon Musk try to DOGE it?

Maybe with VP JD Vance’s help: The author of “Hillbilly Elegy” probably knows about the unintended damage of disability programs better than anyone else in politics these days.

Reclaiming our dropout men will require other measures, too. But fixing disability will be a big step in the right direction.

Nicholas Eberstadt of the American Enterprise Institute is author of “Men Without Work: America’s Invisible Crisis.”
 
As someone who works a technical job and makes a good wage. It is very discouraging to have spent the last 5 years saving and being no closer to home ownership.

Home ownership is the root cause of our societal issues. If I don't own a home, I don't feel invested in my community. If I don't feel invested in my community, I am less likely to meet/mingle with people and find a wife. If I don't find a wife, I won't be having children.

Our governments are not only failing us, but they are actively working against us by making homebuilding so costly and difficult. In Canada for example, I believe over 25% of the cost of building is simply for attaining permits?

Short term, these decisions are great for the people in our governments, who are ALL actively investing in and benefitting from real estate prices. But if something doesn't happen, we're going to only have more men end up unemployed; willingly.

I also argue that this housing crisis is going to dampen our economy. As a prime aged man with a strong income, I have ZERO interest in buying furniture/appliances/etc. Maybe itll all work out and prices on homes will fall. But I highly doubt it given all parties involved in government are making money hand over fist on their investment portfolios.

I expect the printers to go BRRR at the first sign of trouble.
 
Shitting on fighting age men never has worked in the history of ever. They either become revolutionaries or NEETs, reach a critical mass and dictate a new social paradigm. The status quo is fucked either way.
Lofty goal, but I think things could be handled nonviolently. If working age men dropped out for a month or two it'd scare the shit out our leadership.

"Over the course of 200 years, the working class of ancient Rome organized with unprecedented force and creativity against the patrician ruling class in what became known as the secessions of the plebeians. Their tool of choice – mass exodus of the city – marked the first recorded general strike in history"



I may consider dropping out for the summer and just enjoying myself and my hobbies while contributing nothing.
 
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I got a really good pay rise during covid when loads of people got fired or quit rather than take the shots and those of us left (I didn’t take it either but I wasn’t going to quit) could have a bit more leverage. I thought it’d help us save a bit more.
It’s all being eaten up by inflation and how fucking expensive everything is.
So how are you going to get these workers back in the workforce? Good wages? Secure and meaningful work? Ability to buy a house?
Of course not. What’s going to happen is the benefits being cut.
 
Once upon a time in America, working-age men without jobs were unemployed laborers.

But that’s ancient history: Today, for every “prime age” man who is actually unemployed — out of a job but looking — there are three who are neither working nor looking for work.
Literally everything unskilled/entry level (let alone day labor/gig work) is stuffed with thirdies working below minimum wage. With most of these employers not hiring Timmy (or DaShawn, for that matter) on principle.

NEETing the fuck out has become an actually rational choice for a large part of workforce.
 
Back in the 1990s, a “welfare reform” worthy of the name brought millions of single mothers back into the workforce, a win-win for their families and for society.
How can mothers in the workforce be considered a “win”? Maybe for the state, certainly not for the children. Yeah I’d prefer that my money not be spent on gibs for Shaniqua who popped out 7 kids with 6 babydaddies, but the idea of the state raising (indoctrinating) children is horrifying.
 
Work used to be fun. Now there are cameras and algorhythms watching your every move and a squad of HR faggots ready to fire you for being insensitive.

Working at a lot of the places society NEEDS to function your pay isn't good enough so you're broke anyway once your gas/food/tools/clothing/daycare expenses incurred from having the job in the first place are accounted for.

For many people it's a choice between being broke with unlimited free time or being slightly less broke but perpetually suicidal due to the modern working environment being a form of hell on earth.
 
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How can mothers in the workforce be considered a “win”? Maybe for the state, certainly not for the children. Yeah I’d prefer that my money not be spent on gibs for Shaniqua who popped out 7 kids with 6 babydaddies, but the idea of the state raising (indoctrinating) children is horrifying.
It really makes you wonder.
Between 1993 and 2000, the percentage of low-income, single mothers with a job increased from 58 percent to nearly 75 percent, and employment among never-married mothers grew from 44 percent to 66 percent.
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Analysis of the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey shows that between 1995 and 2000, the proportion of children younger than 18 living with a single mother declined from 19.9 percent to 18.4 percent — a statistically significant drop of 1.5 percentage points, or 8 percent.
the proportion of Black children living with two married parents increased from 34.8 percent to 38.9 percent — a substantial rise. In addition, an increasing proportion of Black children lived in homes with a cohabiting mother, while a declining share lived with a single mother.

The proportion of Hispanic children living with a single mother fell from 24.6 percent in 1995 to 21.3 percent in 2000 — a 13 percent drop. The proportion of White children living with married parents remained unchanged during this time, while the proportion living with a single mother decreased slightly.
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More spics and blacks started living together with their kids, but for whites the amount of single mothers only decreased slightly, instead resulting presumably in more white children with no parent at home
 
Home ownership is the root cause of our societal issues. If I don't own a home, I don't feel invested in my community. If I don't feel invested in my community, I am less likely to meet/mingle with people and find a wife. If I don't find a wife, I won't be having children.

Our governments are not only failing us, but they are actively working against us by making homebuilding so costly and difficult. In Canada for example, I believe over 25% of the cost of building is simply for attaining permits?
exactly, the birth rate peaked in 2007/2008 for this exact reason, we went from a society where any asshole with a 40hr a week job could at minimum find an apartment, a car, and have enough money left over for a case of beer weekly to one where the average household has 7 people in it. like having two roommates was still the norm in the 2000s, but in the next decade it became more normalized to have 6 all living in a space that used to be a condo.
Literally everything unskilled/entry level (let alone day labor/gig work) is stuffed with thirdies working below minimum wage. With most of these employers not hiring Timmy (or DaShawn, for that matter) on principle.

NEETing the fuck out has become an actually rational choice for a large part of workforce.
exactly, i think the worst thing is how often managers aren't racist. i don't know a single employer that realized how great white dudes are until i joined their work force. the concept that people might actually work for the money you give them or have separate output values never enters their mind
 
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