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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 224 23.7%
  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 65 6.9%
  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 415 43.8%
  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 202 21.3%
  • Tim

    Votes: 353 37.3%
  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 190 20.1%
  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 244 25.8%
  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 22 2.3%
  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 473 49.9%
  • Max Landis

    Votes: 52 5.5%

  • Total voters
    947
The biggest issue with 3 for me is just how cheap the planet looks as it is breaking apart. That last fight on the planet feels super cheesy.

For all of the surprisingly fine acting moments Shatner delivers in this movie, the fistfight with Kurge is pure Ham vs. Cheese. "I ... HAVE HAD ... ENOUGH ... OF YOUUUU!" *kicks screaming Klingon into lava flow fifty stories below the cliff* goes a long way toward undermining the solid material that precedes it.
 
The biggest issue with 3 for me is just how cheap the planet looks as it is breaking apart. That last fight on the planet feels super cheesy.

Stealing the Enterprise is a fantastic set of scenes, that is matched by a perfect score. It is probably my favourite clip out of all the TOS films

Another thing I miss from those is the great warp FX. TMP's is overly complicated and there's barely any in 4. 2 and 3 have that great wooshing sound with the color trails. The shot in 2 of Enterprise escaping at the end, there' s a sense of real speed to it. I never liked TNG's much. Star Trek Beyond has a very nice warp shot too. None of the rest really matched 2 and 3.

It's short, but looks 'plausible' for scifi of warping space and these sense of speed is there for sure.

2's battle scene and the enterprise escapes in 2 and 3 I can watch over and over.

I also really like the intensity of this shot. It's not so much 'Trekish' but there's a good sense of awe and menace to it.
 
The antagonists JJ Abrams burped up were even worse.
It really cracked me up when they couldn't even come up with a decent alternate universe explanation for why Kirk should give a shit about Khan (or even know who he is), and so in the "dramatic" moment when they meet face-to-face (another thing that never happened in TWoK) and Khan introduces himself with that melodramatic delivery, "I am ... Khan ...", even Kirk himself just has this "huh? Who? Why do I give a shit?" look on his face.

The screen just oozed that "eh? Know what I mean? Get it? Eh? See that? Y'remember Khan? Eh? GET IT?!?!" desperation and it was so unintentionally hilarious.
 
It really cracked me up when they couldn't even come up with a decent alternate universe explanation for why Kirk should give a shit about Khan (or even know who he is), and so in the "dramatic" moment when they meet face-to-face (another thing that never happened in TWoK) and Khan introduces himself with that melodramatic delivery, "I am ... Khan ...", even Kirk himself just has this "huh? Who? Why do I give a shit?" look on his face.

The screen just oozed that "eh? Know what I mean? Get it? Eh? See that? Y'remember Khan? Eh? GET IT?!?!" desperation and it was so unintentionally hilarious.

Into Darkness is so bad that the only reason it's not the worst Star Trek product ever made is that Discovery exists.

It's so fucking lazy, too. Kirk should know who Khan is; they all should know, because he's a 20th century boogeyman reawakened to spread havoc. There was an opportunity there to tell the story of the Eugenics War and they did jack shit with it. Such a waste.
 
Into Darkness is so bad that the only reason it's not the worst Star Trek product ever made is that Discovery exists.

It's so fucking lazy, too. Kirk should know who Khan is; they all should know, because he's a 20th century boogeyman reawakened to spread havoc. There was an opportunity there to tell the story of the Eugenics War and they did jack shit with it. Such a waste.

Right. Kirk knew who Khan was in the TOS episode. He already knew who he was and what he had done. That they had the history from the episode added weight and meaning to TWOK.

Fuck, JJ and his cocksuckers need to suffer for how they have dumbed down and ruined films.
 
all the sex pest trannies they'd bust for diddling ALWAYS had Trek memorabilia.
It's less Star Trek and more the comsooming instinct that's dominant in pests. Nowdays it would be walls of funko pops
As promised, the hackfrauds got to it
Mike doing Kirks' dialog in Trump's voice was pretty funny.
 
Yeah, not knowing who Khan is would be like somebody from our time not knowing who Hitler is. Like we even know what he looks like. If you fucking woke up one morning and Hitler was standing there, you wouldn't be confused, you'd be thinking "What the fuck is a Hitler cosplayer doing in my room?"

To be fair schooling these days is so shit that kids don't know who hitler was.
 
Watching the RLM video on TMP, I wasn't aware that there were different versions of the movie. I wonder what the best version to watch is. Considering that people already think the theatrical version is glacial.
 
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Watching the RLM video on TMP, I wasn't aware that there were different versions of the movie. I wonder what the best version to watch is. Considering that people already think the theatrical version is glacial.
The Director's Cut, original and 4K versions IS longer, but also better-paced than the theatrical, so I would say that version.
 
Yeah, not knowing who Khan is would be like somebody from our time not knowing who Hitler is. Like we even know what he looks like. If you fucking woke up one morning and Hitler was standing there, you wouldn't be confused, you'd be thinking "What the fuck is a Hitler cosplayer doing in my room?"
"Hey Hitler Bro..you got the wrong A+H shitposter, Here..lemme log on and find you someone who hates Jews to haunt."
 
Into Darkness is brain rot levels of stupid. None of the plot makes any logical sense. I'm convinced JJ and the other writers huffed paint before writing it.
I loved the idiotic decision leading into the action climax of the big chase to get Khan so they can engineer a cure for the virus, when they had all the other frozen dudes right there to get samples from with no risk to life or limb.
 
I loved the idiotic decision leading into the action climax of the big chase to get Khan so they can engineer a cure for the virus, when they had all the other frozen dudes right there to get samples from with no risk to life or limb.
I was always "fond" of the "climb around directly inside -- and kick the ever-living shit out of -- a room-sized piece of delicate high-energy space-warping technology" approach of repairing the warp core.

Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan -- The warp core is broken because it's been repeatedly shot into (near-literal) pieces, jury-rigged and bypassed by desperately panicked and inexperienced trainees and their overworked engineer mentor, nobody left alive really knows how to repair it who isn't also in sick bay from acute radiation sickness, and the only way to repair it enough to function is to enter a viciously radioactive chamber (isolated -- by design -- to prevent entry following any kind of shutdown) to uncover and manually adjust/reseat dilithium crystals inside their delicate pedestal mount. Doing this requires climbing ladders and dodging debris throughout the ship because it's so badly damaged even the turbolifts don't even have power to run, and even the people in engineering -- themselves desperate to escape -- know it's so hopeless and futile to try that they physically try to prevent you from trying, even though they know they're guaranteed to die if they do stop you.

Said repair happens anyway, at the hands of the only guy on board calm, collected and strong enough to overpower the people trying to stop him and endure the radiation. The process is slow and delicate, and continues even as the radiation literally blinds the man conducting the repairs -- he completes the process entirely by feel, and succeeds. The ship is saved, but the man who conducted the repair dies in the dilithium crystal chamber from acute radiation sickness and third-degree plasma burns. He is mourned in a memorial service and his body is loaded into a torpedo and launched to find its resting place on a newborn planet nearby. Resurrecting him requires an additional movie, the loss of several Starfleet ships, court-martialing and demotion of a well-respected admiral, a great many deaths and a massive diplomatic incident between two Alpha quadrant superpowers.

Star Trek: Into Darkness -- The warp core is broken because, well, a vastly superior opponent kicked the unholy living fuck out of the entire ship in one of the few decently-done little bits of the film. The only way to repair it is to enter a viciously radioactive chamber, find a delicate shiny bit of metal that's misaligned a little bit, and kick it really hard until it snaps back into place. Doing this requires pressing a button to open the door, get in there and start kicking. The radiation is deadly to whoever attempts this, but apart from the ship's captain, nobody seems to really be interested in trying anyway. Note that apart from this misalignment, there is no other detectable damage to anything within or outside the "core."

Said repair happens anyway, at the hands of the ship's captain -- a human being (notably not a person with any particular resistance to radiation sickness, unlike the Vulcan who did it in the original) who just marches right in and gets it done. The ship is saved, but he dies inside the now-running warp core (that somehow doesn't just vaporize him instantly despite being inside it while it's running). He is mourned by a very angry Vulcan very angrily yelling "Khan!" as he looks at his now-dead friend. His body is shipped off to sick bay. Resurrecting him requires punching Khan in the face VERY hard a few times, putting some of his blood in the dead man's body, and waiting a few minutes. Neat.

lol. lmao even. Fucking JJ Abrams is such a hack. How did engineering transform from a brewery into a science lab in between movies anyway? (yes I know it's because they filmed in a brewery for the first one and a science lab for the second, but c'mon...)
 
In a previous episode where Rich and Mike talks about Star Trek, Rich does admit he really wish he could have been in that episode because it's his favorite movie. So that's why they talked about again. Honestly I don't mind there was a lot of information in that episode that was not in the previous one. And like people pointed out, Rich > Jim.
 
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