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Not Just Bikes / r/fuckcars / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design
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Shell Shocked Zoomer
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Ah yes, let's ban all cars that aren't a Peel P-50.
Meanwhile, here's what a good pickup truck can be.
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Right now, the quoting stuff seems to be busted on my end so I have to do this mostly manually.
Of the people we looked into we have a middle-aged man with no job living with his elderly father, a troon who does in fact have a car, and a presumably NEET guy living in suburban Nashville as he seethes about his neighbors having family over for Thanksgiving.
Horses have high metabolism and are heavier than even the heaviest deathfats. Some Wikipedia searching seems to indicate drunk horses only happen in movies.
As for @quaawaa's collage of autistic screeching, I find the comic about the "public investment"/"wasteful subsidy" is unironically true (after all, shouldn't a public good be accessible to everyone?) but the problem with the Texas HSR is that it really wasn't even going to "take cars off the road", it would've mostly been after airports anyway, and you'd still end up a France situation where the airports will still win unless you cut them off by law. (Once you get out into the space between Houston and Dallas, there's not much traffic). I think one station would've been in downtown Dallas, and the other several miles out of Houston's downtown at an abandoned mall, both of which would've had extensive parking lots...and studies already determined that a mid-way stop at College Station would be impractical, opting instead to stop at Shiro, a tiny community (we're talking 200 people and the number of active businesses can be counted on one hand), and 25 miles out from College Station.
As for light rail, notice that they brought up China instead of CAHSR; it was a Democrat idea in a Democrat state and under a Democrat President and not only still not operational but more expensive than 25 Katy Freeways adjusted for inflation, so far.
Of the people we looked into we have a middle-aged man with no job living with his elderly father, a troon who does in fact have a car, and a presumably NEET guy living in suburban Nashville as he seethes about his neighbors having family over for Thanksgiving.
Horses have high metabolism and are heavier than even the heaviest deathfats. Some Wikipedia searching seems to indicate drunk horses only happen in movies.
As for @quaawaa's collage of autistic screeching, I find the comic about the "public investment"/"wasteful subsidy" is unironically true (after all, shouldn't a public good be accessible to everyone?) but the problem with the Texas HSR is that it really wasn't even going to "take cars off the road", it would've mostly been after airports anyway, and you'd still end up a France situation where the airports will still win unless you cut them off by law. (Once you get out into the space between Houston and Dallas, there's not much traffic). I think one station would've been in downtown Dallas, and the other several miles out of Houston's downtown at an abandoned mall, both of which would've had extensive parking lots...and studies already determined that a mid-way stop at College Station would be impractical, opting instead to stop at Shiro, a tiny community (we're talking 200 people and the number of active businesses can be counted on one hand), and 25 miles out from College Station.
As for light rail, notice that they brought up China instead of CAHSR; it was a Democrat idea in a Democrat state and under a Democrat President and not only still not operational but more expensive than 25 Katy Freeways adjusted for inflation, so far.
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"The unjustifiable demand for excessive private portable space in cities is the target here..."
Only retarded commies think wanting privacy is unjustifiable.
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Thank goodness. I was worried that I'd be frog-marched into the touchscreen only future with no options rather than at least being able to turn some knobs and click some switches for things that don't need to be digital and that I might want to adjust on the move.I remember reading an article that Hyundai is going to return to having more buttons and knobs in their future models. Supposedly focus group tests showed that consumers preferred a tactile dashboard to a touchscreen (I know I do).
If true, it'll still take a while to actually see those models hit dealers.
This I think is hugely important. Disagreeing on ideas and compromising on implementation gets you results, while bringing the dogmatism of ideology into implementation gets you nothing. And I'd rather have something than nothing.
The love for rail and mass transit does seem to have a utopian-authoritarian component. The idea that big data and centralized solutions can solve everything like it's a game of Europa Universalis always strikes me as an almost religious fervor that we can progress, we can unify our will, and we will show everyone that our way is better.
Come to think of it he's always looking for a better way and invoking "lacking political will" as a reason for no mass transit here (Philippines) rather than being able to accept that whatever is or will be must be a compromise between everyone involved.
oh also horses not being able to get drunk because they burn it too fast is funny and informative, thanks.
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Horses not only have a high metabolism they're also semi-ruminant, and so they're always fermenting carbohydrates in their hindgut (particularly the cecum). This means that they have an amazing alcohol tolerance due to literally always having alcohol in their system.
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I've heard that giving horses beer is relatively popular among racing stables and farmers, since the carbs provide a good fuel to recover after strenuous activity. Great way to treat them too after a long day of running, best accompanied by whiskey for oneself.
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Remember that these are the people who thought they could trick conservatives into liking bike lanes by calling them "freedom lanes".What happened to "I'm not made of sugar"?
Turns out you can get them to like cars as long as you just call them 4 wheeled covered bikes.
Kyria the Great
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The fact that the utter contempt of private space Fuckcars tells me that they're almost all single and childless without any family or friends even. Private transportation was for the longest time only accessible to the rich due to private carriages being so expensive. The advent of affordable private transportation must be seen as a triumph for all so everyone can enjoy it rather than an elite few.
Even the soviets realized this as there were special vouchers one could get to acquire specialized cars for physical disabilities. They weren't great and many had to wait years to get them but something of shit quality beats nothing. In fact one way one could tell the soviets were full of shit that it was the land of milk and honey by the car ownership rate. I believe the average ownership rate was 15%.
Even the soviets realized this as there were special vouchers one could get to acquire specialized cars for physical disabilities. They weren't great and many had to wait years to get them but something of shit quality beats nothing. In fact one way one could tell the soviets were full of shit that it was the land of milk and honey by the car ownership rate. I believe the average ownership rate was 15%.
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Jason talking about his new comedy video:
Jason "I don't read/reply to comments" Slaughter:
Fucking liar, he's used AI in his 4th most popular video ever, he was totally fine with using it to mock Americans before his climate-obsessed ilk deemed it was never acceptable to use.
AND looking back at it I realized he cut that section from the video if you look it up on YouTube, notice the time discrepancy.
Post here still has it archived though.
He loves comments that align with him though:
It's all about comedy, guys.
Jason "I don't read/reply to comments" Slaughter:
Fucking liar, he's used AI in his 4th most popular video ever, he was totally fine with using it to mock Americans before his climate-obsessed ilk deemed it was never acceptable to use.
AND looking back at it I realized he cut that section from the video if you look it up on YouTube, notice the time discrepancy.
Post here still has it archived though.
He loves comments that align with him though:
It's all about comedy, guys.
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Kyria the Great
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You know Jason could just respect that different countries have different transportation needs based on geography and socioeconomic factors or just continue to be a rootless cosmopolitan who doesn't have any loyalty to the Netherlands and would flee once the slightest amount of decay comes his way.
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When you’re hanging out in online urban planning forums arguing about peak city design, you’ve certainly heard the term “walkable streets”.
Wait .. what? You don't spend your life in the warm embrace of the city planning filter bubble?
Well OK then, if you haven’t heard of “walkable streets” then you can be one of today’s lucky 10,000.
And while yes, every street is theoretically walkable if you have nowhere to be and no will to live, but not all streets are actually walkable so today, we’ll be diving into walkable streets; what they are, and more importantly, why they’re awesome.
Walkable streets are streets that are designed to be safe, accessible, and convenient to use for walking.
So, no, the 6 lane nightmare that divides the residential neighborhood from the nearby supermarket, is not in fact a walkable street, even if it has a sidewalk. I’m looking at you, Houston.
More importantly, these streets are “human scale.”
And while that might sound like an unpleasant skin condition that haunts the dreams of the illuminati lizard people, here, it means a design that is scaled down with people in mind.
That means smaller buildings and storefront signs, fewer lanes, and slower road speeds.
Compare that to car scale design, where everything is wide, massive, and makes you feel like you have to apologize for having feet and daring to use them.
With more people walking around, there’s also a stronger sense of community. While this does make it easier to run into people you want to see, unfortunately, it also means occasionally getting trapped in conversation by Agnes, who’s going to tell you about her grandkids who’ve somehow achieved everything you’ve wanted to do by the age of ten.
For the hopeless romantics out there, it also makes bumping into the love of your life a greater possibility.
There’s a reason why many romcom meet-cutes take place on a busy sidewalk and not in the middle of rush hour on a six lane stroad.
When streets are better designed for walking, more people use it to walk. Wow, shocking, right?
And walking itself has a ton of great health benefits like reducing the risk of chronic disease, weight loss, and helping you live longer so you can enjoy old-people pleasures, like bragging about your grandkids to your neighbors who can’t fact-check all the lies you’re telling about them.
Walking improves mental health, too. Studies show that people who walk over 8 minutes a day report feeling 33% better about their mental health.
Meanwhile, spending even just 8 minutes in traffic will have you questioning if it’s all worth it. Human scale design prioritizes trees and greenery over miles of looming asphalt. That can also mean a huge drop in summer temperatures, keeping that swamp-ass at bay.
And with fewer cars around to pollute, the air becomes much cleaner.
In Paris, a single car free day in 2015 cut smog levels by 40%. And to think that drop could’ve been even higher if it weren’t for all the cigarette smoke.
In his book about walkable cities, author, and guy who has a lot to say about asphalt, Jeff Speck introduces the “general theory of walkability” which states that if a street is useful, safe, comfortable, and interesting, people would rather walk than drive.
I mean, when you have a choice between a relaxing walk down a beautiful city street vs. revving up your Ford Gas Guzzler 9000 and looking for parking, the choice is clear.
So, contrary to the belief that narrower streets and slower speeds will lead to more traffic, walkable streets actually ease traffic because fewer people drive. It’s a beautiful thing.
This also makes other transport alternatives like biking, public transport, or Segway easier to use.
When cars aren’t zipping by at life-threatening speeds, even looking like a dorky tourist in your own town, doesn’t seem half bad.
Turns out that walkers and bikers are also better for the local economy. Studies show that pedestrians spend up to 65% more than drivers.
Which makes sense because if you don’t have to worry about buying dead dinosaur juice every week, you’ve got a few extra dollars or euros to spare for a handmade coaster from the local knick-knack shop.
That’s probably why after a walkable street redesign in a Dublin neighborhood, there was a 300% increase in employment.
That’s almost as high as the chance of dreary, spitting rain in the Dublin forecast.
So if you ever find yourself arguing about peak city design on an urban planning forum, be sure to bring up walkable streets and their many benefits. Okay fine, that’s my thing. Maybe just take this information and go to your local city council meeting to advocate for more walkable streets. It’ll make your city a little bit better, for everyone.
Speaking of walkable streets, if you liked this episode, why don’t you lace up your sneakers and make your way over to Nebula, where our next episode is already available. You can come by Segway too, no judgement.
Nebula is the streaming service built for creators, fans, and pedestrians alike, unlike some places. I’m looking at you, Houston.
If you’re not already subscribed, you can sign up now at go.nebula.tv/ilovethecity, and get 40% off an annual subscription.
And if you’re already a Nebula subscriber, thank you for forgoing the local handmade coaster for us. Your support makes this channel possible.
Wait .. what? You don't spend your life in the warm embrace of the city planning filter bubble?
Well OK then, if you haven’t heard of “walkable streets” then you can be one of today’s lucky 10,000.
And while yes, every street is theoretically walkable if you have nowhere to be and no will to live, but not all streets are actually walkable so today, we’ll be diving into walkable streets; what they are, and more importantly, why they’re awesome.
Walkable streets are streets that are designed to be safe, accessible, and convenient to use for walking.
So, no, the 6 lane nightmare that divides the residential neighborhood from the nearby supermarket, is not in fact a walkable street, even if it has a sidewalk. I’m looking at you, Houston.
More importantly, these streets are “human scale.”
And while that might sound like an unpleasant skin condition that haunts the dreams of the illuminati lizard people, here, it means a design that is scaled down with people in mind.
That means smaller buildings and storefront signs, fewer lanes, and slower road speeds.
Compare that to car scale design, where everything is wide, massive, and makes you feel like you have to apologize for having feet and daring to use them.
With more people walking around, there’s also a stronger sense of community. While this does make it easier to run into people you want to see, unfortunately, it also means occasionally getting trapped in conversation by Agnes, who’s going to tell you about her grandkids who’ve somehow achieved everything you’ve wanted to do by the age of ten.
For the hopeless romantics out there, it also makes bumping into the love of your life a greater possibility.
There’s a reason why many romcom meet-cutes take place on a busy sidewalk and not in the middle of rush hour on a six lane stroad.
When streets are better designed for walking, more people use it to walk. Wow, shocking, right?
And walking itself has a ton of great health benefits like reducing the risk of chronic disease, weight loss, and helping you live longer so you can enjoy old-people pleasures, like bragging about your grandkids to your neighbors who can’t fact-check all the lies you’re telling about them.
Walking improves mental health, too. Studies show that people who walk over 8 minutes a day report feeling 33% better about their mental health.
Meanwhile, spending even just 8 minutes in traffic will have you questioning if it’s all worth it. Human scale design prioritizes trees and greenery over miles of looming asphalt. That can also mean a huge drop in summer temperatures, keeping that swamp-ass at bay.
And with fewer cars around to pollute, the air becomes much cleaner.
In Paris, a single car free day in 2015 cut smog levels by 40%. And to think that drop could’ve been even higher if it weren’t for all the cigarette smoke.
In his book about walkable cities, author, and guy who has a lot to say about asphalt, Jeff Speck introduces the “general theory of walkability” which states that if a street is useful, safe, comfortable, and interesting, people would rather walk than drive.
I mean, when you have a choice between a relaxing walk down a beautiful city street vs. revving up your Ford Gas Guzzler 9000 and looking for parking, the choice is clear.
So, contrary to the belief that narrower streets and slower speeds will lead to more traffic, walkable streets actually ease traffic because fewer people drive. It’s a beautiful thing.
This also makes other transport alternatives like biking, public transport, or Segway easier to use.
When cars aren’t zipping by at life-threatening speeds, even looking like a dorky tourist in your own town, doesn’t seem half bad.
Turns out that walkers and bikers are also better for the local economy. Studies show that pedestrians spend up to 65% more than drivers.
Which makes sense because if you don’t have to worry about buying dead dinosaur juice every week, you’ve got a few extra dollars or euros to spare for a handmade coaster from the local knick-knack shop.
That’s probably why after a walkable street redesign in a Dublin neighborhood, there was a 300% increase in employment.
That’s almost as high as the chance of dreary, spitting rain in the Dublin forecast.
So if you ever find yourself arguing about peak city design on an urban planning forum, be sure to bring up walkable streets and their many benefits. Okay fine, that’s my thing. Maybe just take this information and go to your local city council meeting to advocate for more walkable streets. It’ll make your city a little bit better, for everyone.
Speaking of walkable streets, if you liked this episode, why don’t you lace up your sneakers and make your way over to Nebula, where our next episode is already available. You can come by Segway too, no judgement.
Nebula is the streaming service built for creators, fans, and pedestrians alike, unlike some places. I’m looking at you, Houston.
If you’re not already subscribed, you can sign up now at go.nebula.tv/ilovethecity, and get 40% off an annual subscription.
And if you’re already a Nebula subscriber, thank you for forgoing the local handmade coaster for us. Your support makes this channel possible.
One of these forums is not like the others:
/r/FuckCarscirclejerk is an anti-urbanist subreddit that mocks /r/fuckcars.
This is the stereotype of church ladies in small towns, not big cities:
Are we sure Jason's wife is an actual woman? No one who has seen a Hallmark Channel movie would ever say something like this:
Most of the romcoms' plots follow the template of city guy/girl visits a small town, discovers a sense of community that was missing in the big city, and decides to settle down with the hot girl/guy local. Literally the exact opposite of what Jason said.
Like every other "comedy" video on his channel, this video is nothing more than a dry rant with no funny jokes.
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Gul Spergat
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Imagine riding in one of these when there's even the slightest amount of ice on the road. Recipe for disaster!
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Wild to see such a measured, mature take from the people that seethe for an entire week because their heard some guy in a red hat complain about immigrants while in line at the Gulpburger.
"What, you don't want to get soaked to the bone riding your bike in a thunderstorm? Are you a little baby that needs mommy to wipe his face for him?"
"Oh my god this sidewalk is too close to the road, and there isn't a crosswalk, and then it ends and I have to walk on the side of a residential street! Oh my god this is literally more strenuous and dangerous than climbing K2"
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True on all counts. Although nowadays it's more frowned upon than what it used to be due to increased scrutiny from animal welfare types. But really it does not hurt the horse at all to have a beer or two. Growing up we used to always give the horses a beer after a hard ride or a strenuous show, you just didn't talk about it with other people, especially non-horse people.
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Yeah, but when it comes to urban planning, it's not about building a utopian society. They don't want gleaming statues of the superiority of [people group], they don't want better living standards, they don't want grandiose buildings surrounded by open space (as is typical for the old European cities). Their ideal "city" isn't Rome at the height of its power, it's 1980s Hong Kong.
I would chalk up this as bullshitting his audience. He doesn't live in Amsterdam-Centrum, he knows it's a kind of shit place to live (mostly touristy), he has a car, and he gets his food in a store not unlike a typical American supermarket.
You can sort of see that as they flex about "yeah I ride mass transit and bicycle, I'm so cool and badass unlike you" while crying about how dangerous roads and cars are.
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Don't you guys know that soliciting random women who walk past you on public sidewalks is the most surefire way to meet women?
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It's slop.
This is the definition in the description of a "liminal space":
By that definition, these places are all "liminal spaces":
Look at all the featureless walls:
Look at all the copy-pasted houses with nothing to do:
Look at this empty transportation infrastructure:
You'll never see photos like the above in a "liminal space" video arguing why dense cities feel creepy and uncomfortable.
Videos like the above are just cherry-picking photos and forcibly applying a dated 4chan creepypasta meme to put down things they don't like.
Sunflower Samurai
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The liminal space retardation of any burb is immedietly broken once any hoilday that lets people setup decorations kicks in. Not to mention all the generic decorations niggas put up otherwise, but those are usually more lo-key. Although you never lack the guys that put up decent gardens or the whole "my son is an honor student at faggot high 2025" banners
They really try to force the distance between goods (to be fair, when it comes to some burbs that is a point of contention) as the end all be all but that is usually fixed by a basic car and driving skill, which can be dirt cheap and easy to get in america.