Karl Jobst / karljobst / FAQ_GOD / simthreat / approachhernow.com - Albino autist, Spergy speed runner, Pickup predator and Bitch of Mitchell

[Gobermental Supervisor]

Maybe I'm an idiot but, can what other people say on your behalf count against you in court? Like Karl's punishment would be made more severe by some 15-year-old saying Billy is a murderer

The evidence presented in court suggested (and convinced the judge) that following Karl's video the were comments made by users who repeated his claim.
That people believed his claim is the proof that the defamation had a real effect on Billy's reputation. Which means that harm was done.


So yes, if some 15-year-old comments "I thought Billy killed Apollo Legend because Karl said so in a video" could be part of the evidence that proves the reputation damage happened.

Karl called Charlie as a witness and with him brought in comments under Charlie's video, where he talked about Karl's video, and there too were very negative comments about Billy.

 

[Harm]

Interesting recent comment on the Karl Jobst video:



I did Google this and couldn't find anything affirming this claim. IANAL, but if this is the case, then Karl Jobst has to have started the GoFundMe under false pretenses, as he had already been served the Apollo Legend lawsuit and the additional concerns notices couldn't have resulted in additional lawsuits like he now claims.

That's not even getting into whether or not he truly felt threatened by the concerns notices, as he both claims he completely disregarded them because Billy's a liar and then regarded them very seriously depending on what lie he's peddling at any given moment.

 

[Buffy Anne Summers]

The evidence presented in court suggested (and convinced the judge) that following Karl's video the were comments made by users who repeated his claim.
That people believed his claim is the proof that the defamation had a real effect on Billy's reputation. Which means that harm was done.


So yes, if some 15-year-old comments "I thought Billy killed Apollo Legend because Karl said so in a video" could be part of the evidence that proves the reputation damage happened.

Karl called Charlie as a witness and with him brought in comments under Charlie's video, where he talked about Karl's video, and there too were very negative comments about Billy.

I was just confused by the phrasing, it made it sound like just them saying it rubbed off onto him as a crime, rather than evidence that his lies worked. I mean Karl's a little shit so he was probably relying on the negative reputation Billy already has to hide accountability, like an "Everyone hates him anyway" sort of thing.

 

[Day of the Cope]

You know, Karl could have easily weaselled his way out of this situation.
But all of it would require Karl to admit he's the one at fault.

 

[Fucker Carlson]

Wait a minute, I thought the AI lawyer said Karl was guaranteed to win.

 

[Seafarer]

So he's basically trying to win in a court of public opinions.
I guess it's the only thing he can do right now.

Considering how much Karl owes Billy, his only hope for seeing a day that he isn’t Billy’s debt slave is to ensure he has enough dents who continue watching and donating, so he really needs to at least retain a good portion of the fans he already has. Now we knew it’d be an uphill battle considering how many people turned on Karl after the nature of the lawsuit was actually understood, but if the like/dislike ratio is anything to go by he still has plenty of dents who will hang onto his every word.

Alternatively Karl perhaps could have gone the route of begging for mercy from Billy, but that would involve Karl admitting fault, which would not make sense for someone as demonstrably arrogant as Karl is, and doing so would alienate the rabidly anti-Billy portion of his fanbase. There is also the fact that Karl fully admitted that had he won “he wouldn’t have been a good winner”, so I wouldn’t blame Billy for not taking mercy on him even if Karl was genuinely apologetic.

 

[Buckaroo]

Interesting recent comment on the Karl Jobst video:

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I did Google this and couldn't find anything affirming this claim. IANAL, but if this is the case, then Karl Jobst has to have started the GoFundMe under false pretenses, as he had already been served the Apollo Legend lawsuit and the additional concerns notices couldn't have resulted in additional lawsuits like he now claims.

That's not even getting into whether or not he truly felt threatened by the concerns notices, as he both claims he completely disregarded them because Billy's a liar and then regarded them very seriously depending on what lie he's peddling at any given moment.

Here's what I found.

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

Here's what I found.

So Billy could have gone after Karl for another matter, i.e. cheating allegations.
That would not be the same or a similar matter.

 

[nym]

I mean Karl's a little shit so he was probably relying on the negative reputation Billy already has

Yeah, this can be relevant to determining if damage has been done to someone's reputation in a defamation suit as well:
someone's reputation can theoretically be so low that it's essentially impossible to defame them.

But it's not just a measure of how much damages can be awarded: if the defendant can reasonably argue that "no one even saw my lie about him, how can his reputation have been damaged?" then there's a strong defense there; in contrast to that, the fact that someone is repeating the ostensibly false claim is literally evidence that the damage happened in the first place. And civil suits are all about the tort in question, ie., the damage that has been done.
So a short way of thinking of it is yes, the comments are literally evidence against Karl.

 

[❤️❤️]

You know, Karl could have easily weaselled his way out of this situation.
But all of it would require Karl to admit he's the one at fault.

Its just YouTube drama. It will be forgotten the next time he drops new slop for his audience.

 

[Pierre D'Olnique]

Not even in this video he has any emotion in his voice

That's where you're wrong. I'm listening to it right now, and there's fear in his voice. It's shaky. He's legitimately trembling, as if on the verge of tears.

 

[BussyBusta]

Interesting recent comment on the Karl Jobst video:

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I did Google this and couldn't find anything affirming this claim. IANAL, but if this is the case, then Karl Jobst has to have started the GoFundMe under false pretenses, as he had already been served the Apollo Legend lawsuit and the additional concerns notices couldn't have resulted in additional lawsuits like he now claims.

That's not even getting into whether or not he truly felt threatened by the concerns notices, as he both claims he completely disregarded them because Billy's a liar and then regarded them very seriously depending on what lie he's peddling at any given moment.

Also not a lawyer but here's the Queensland Defamation Act if you're curious:

https://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/act-2005-055

He's likely referring to this:

8Single cause of action for multiple defamatory imputations in same matter

A person has a single cause of action for defamation in relation to the publication of defamatory matter about the person even if more than 1 defamatory imputation about the person is carried by the matter.

I'm not entirely sure about his interpretation though. What does "matter" refer to in this context?
As in: if there are two separate publications defaming the same person, are those two distinct matters? Or does it fall under one "matter"?

There's also this:

23Leave required for multiple proceedings in relation to publication of same defamatory matter

(1)This section applies to a person who has brought defamation proceedings for damages, whether in this jurisdiction or elsewhere, against a person (a previous defendant) in relation to the publication of a matter.

(2)The person may not bring further defamation proceedings for damages against a previous defendant or an associate of a previous defendant in relation to the same or any other publication of the same or like matter, except with the leave of the court in which the further proceedings are to be brought.

Which interestingly does mention "like matter." So the above would mean that Billy couldn't take Karl to court again for the same or similar defamatory publications. Which, in my interpretation, means he couldn't have two active defamation lawsuits in this case, probably, since Karl would be a "previous defendant" in the first lawsuit for the second one unless the matter in publication was unrelated between the two cases.

Will leave it to the smarter people and lawyers to clarify.

 

[Buckaroo]

So Billy could have gone after Karl for another matter, i.e. cheating allegations.
That would not be the same or a similar matter.

Seems like that's the case, however Karl was adamant that he believed the cheating allegations were related to the suicide allegations. So how could he believe he was being sued for calling Billy a cheater twice when the law doesn't allow it?

 

[Harm]

It's clear that Karl must release the concerns notices. It's actually baffling that he didn't include them any videos. You'd think that locating them and then including them in the video is the sort of thing which would require so much time to put together the videos. Instead, he includes virtually zero receipts and plays Mineycrafta instead.

If we could see the concerns notices, we could better understand whether they were all relating to the original litigation, or whether they suggested introducing additional lawsuits.

So, where are the concerns notices, Karl?

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

Seems like that's the case, however Karl was adamant that he believed the cheating allegations were related to the suicide allegations. So how could he believe he was being sued for calling Billy a cheater twice when the law doesn't allow it?

In my opinion Karl is both a retard and unable to accept responsibility for mistakes he made.

He conflated "Concern Notice" and "Lawsuit being filed" for the past 4 years and caused massive confusion by doing this.
It is completely logical that no viewer can exactly follow which of the 4 total concern notices went to court and which did not.

Karl himself claims "I never took them seriously because Billy threatens me all the time", but then expects his viewers to magically divine which of the 4 went to trial.

Karl just cannot accept the L and the fact that his videos were so bad, he did not even explain the lawsuit properly.
I think he might have been afraid that people would stop supporting him, like Notch did, if they actually understood what it was about.

 

[Barleys]

At around 19:31 he defends himself misleading his audience about the actual reason for the trail (claiming Billy suicided Apollo) and that the funds were "To help cover (my) legal fees", so Karl was morally correct in using those funds. And then he claims he also personally didn't understand the actual topic of the trail because there were so many lawsuits from Billy.
So this albino nigger is acting retarded on purpose and lying that he didn't know why he got sued.

There were never multiple lawsuits, either Karl does not know Australia's own suit laws or he's lying once more.
Australia specifically has a one action rule law which states that all claims under a suit can only be filed as one suit. So, as an example Mitchell could have sued him for both cheating and the Apollo allegations, but both of those points would have to be filed under one singular lawsuit. The fact is there was only ever one lawsuit filed.

 

[Buffy Anne Summers]

So a short way of thinking of it is yes, the comments are literally evidence against Karl.

I'd figure it'd still be pretty small evidence, whether 5 people or 5000000 believe his lie, the fact he's lying about Billy causing a suicide is defamation enough. I have trouble thinking even Karl believes he did that deep down, Billy cheating at a video game doesn't make him evil enough to encourage suicide, and pretty hard to prove when you have to do it in front of reasonable people and not Lawyer.AI. I think Karl just wanted to get the own on him, it would boost his reputation so hard to be the guy that took him down once and for all, and we've seen how huge his ego and pride are. I can only imagine his lawyer's face when Karl presented him with this case, "We're gonna prove that Billy Mitchell basically killed someone by........well look he did alright, this is an easy one"

 

[Harm]

There were never multiple lawsuits, either Karl does not know Australia's own suit laws or he's lying once more.
Australia specifically has a one action rule law which states that all claims under a suit can only be filed as one suit. So, as an example Mitchell could have sued him for both cheating and the Apollo allegations, but both of those points would have to be filed under one singular lawsuit. The fact is there was only ever one lawsuit filed.

If this is the case, then he must have lied. Full stop. He'd already paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to lawyers, but had no idea whether or not he could have additional lawsuits brought against him? Not a chance. It seems that he lied and then leveraged that lie to get people to give him money.

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

The fact is there was only ever one lawsuit filed.

Yes, Karl conflated "Concern Notice" with "Lawsuit filed" either because he is a dumbfuck moron or because he wanted people to believe they were giving for a good cause.

 

[tardanon]

And on 1 April 2025, the district court of Queensland speedrunner approachhernow.com aka Karl Jobst beat the standing WR in the Billy Mitchell defamation lawsuit any% category in just under 4 years. This is his run. Enjoy.