UK U.K. Top Court Says Trans Women Do Not Meet Legal Definition of Women Under Equality Act - The UK Supreme Court says YWNBAW! (although the trans identity is still a protected characteristic)

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The New York Times. Published: 16 April 2025

U.K. Top Court Says Trans Women Do Not Meet Legal Definition of Women Under Equality Act​

Britain’s Supreme Court was asked to rule on whether trans women can be defined as female under a British law that aims to protect against discrimination.

The Supreme Court in Britain ruled on Wednesday that trans women do not fall within the legal definition of women under the country’s equality legislation.

The deputy president of the court, Lord Hodge, said in a summary of the decision: “The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms ‘woman’ and ‘sex’ in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological women and biological sex.”

However, he added: “We counsel against reading this judgment as a triumph of one or more groups in our society at the expense of another, it is not.” He said the ruling “does not cause disadvantage to trans people” because they have protections under anti-discrimination and equality laws.

The landmark judgment follows a yearslong legal battle over whether trans women can be regarded as female under the 2010 law, which aims to prevent discrimination on the basis of gender, sexuality, race and other protected characteristics.

The decision was highly anticipated because it could have potentially far-reaching consequences for how the law is applied to single sex spaces, equal pay claims and maternity policies as well as to some of the rights available to transgender people in Britain.



BBC live reporting; https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvgq9ejql39t
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JK Rowling, the Queen of TERF Island who helped fund this lawsuit, is celebrating.
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And the troons are melting down even more than usual over her. See:
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/u-k-to...women-under-equality-act.217313/post-21120381
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/u-k-to...women-under-equality-act.217313/post-21129887
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/u-k-to...women-under-equality-act.217313/post-21135630
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Typical SJW lying. If and when Rowling passes away, there'll be people who'll miss her.

And didn't the SJWs used to look up to Rowling, just like they used to look up to Musk?
Its what made her statements hit harder than almost any other figure to date on the trans issue. The beloved children's author who gave away a great amount of her own personal wealth to charity, and who had many left leaning opinions was suddenly the enemy. When she first started "stepping out of line" with her words people attempted to do the thing they've done with other famous celebrities and try to talk her out of it. "C'mon don't do this. This is so hateful you're hurting us." And as soon as she refused the masks dropped and she became a public enemy.

If you've ever had to deal with gender specials this is common to see, they purge any hint of wrongthink once they realize the person who said it didn't say it in error and truly believes it. There's no common ground to be had, which is an antithesis to a healthy community. Its a purity test you can never win.

Its why the people who want to despise her for her former opinions and refuse to believe she can change are retarded. She's already shown signs of being more willing to listen to other viewpoints and isn't nearly as left as she used to be. She still prioritizes women but that's like asking men not to prioritize men. Conversion is always preferable to destruction.
 
They can't. But that's because they can't discriminate against men and troons are men.
We're going in circles now. Yes, the reasoning used in the decision is that discrimination against them counts as discrimination against men. That does not mean that the decision is not designed to benefit them. If the court had said that trans women are women and gone from there, it would have been the same reasoning except reversed, and nobody would question the meaning of it. Troons are troons no matter how you frame them, and the fact is that the Supreme Court framed them in a way that gives them the protection of laws that never applied to them before. It's not the way they'd like to be framed, but it gets the job done.
 
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they purge any hint of wrongthink once they realize the person who said it didn't say it in error and truly believes it
And yet SJWs claim non-SJWs "white supremacists" are "gaslighting" when the latter say the buzzwords SJWs use really means "wrongthink"... it's endless mind games with SJWs.
 
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We're going in circles now. Yes, the reasoning used in the decision is that discrimination against them counts as discrimination against men. That does not mean that the decision is not designed to benefit them. If the court had said that trans women are women and gone from there, it would have been the same reasoning except reversed, and nobody would question the meaning of it. Troons are troons no matter how you frame them, and the fact is that the Supreme Court framed them in a way that gives them the protection of laws that never applied to them before. It's not the way they'd like to be framed, but it gets the job done.
Do you understand my larger point though?

My point was that it benefited them solely as the bare minimum.

Having sex as a protected characteristic in employment inherently will cover troons. As unfortunate as it is that troons exist, since they do, they're going to be able to take advantage of laws protecting men, which is what this ruling did.

The Bostock decision would've been a problem if it extended protections to troons beyond what ordinary men get.

For example, like, there are some narrow circumstances where employers can discriminate on the basis of sex. Like the Yaniv case wouldn't have happened in the US, because single-sex intimate waxing can be a protected exemption to sex discrimination in the US (as a bonafide occupational qualification). Bostock didn't upend that exception, for example.

This is my point that you're not addressing. It did not give troons special protections beyond what ordinary men get. It stuck to the bare minimum.

Which is fine.
 
Its why the people who want to despise her for her former opinions and refuse to believe she can change are retarded. She's already shown signs of being more willing to listen to other viewpoints and isn't nearly as left as she used to be. She still prioritizes women but that's like asking men not to prioritize men. Conversion is always preferable to destruction.
His point stands. At heart, JKR is still a leftist. She was fully on board with the bandwagon to the point of retconning all her characters into being gay. The only difference between her and a faceless brand is that she had a limit, a point of insanity she was not willing to cross into, and that point was, being expected to play into this fantasy where any man can just declare he's a woman and magically transform into a real woman in every respect. Or in her own words: "Women don't have penises."

Everything that followed, the trannies standing at her house, the violent threats and the little jokes shot at her by rightwingers in interviews was merely a consequence of that limit. She was fully on board with unchecked feminism, with race mixing, with making everything gay, she was all about pleasing the pedophiles. Harry Potter as a whole is essentially just a very long piece of pro-race-mixing propaganda, using wizards and muggles as a stand-in for high- and low-sentience races irl. Her turning on the trannies as spectacularly as she did IS a positive development, but don't delude yourself thinking this is an ally. This is merely two subsets of enemies turning on each other.
 
Having sex as a protected characteristic in employment inherently will cover troons. As unfortunate as it is that troons exist, since they do, they're going to be able to take advantage of laws protecting men, which is what this ruling did.
I think this is where you go wrong. Troons are obviously covered by the laws, but the question is how. What counts as sexual discrimination? Until the Bostock ruling, transgenderism did not count. It would have been discrimination if they were fired because of their biological sex, but their behavior in the workplace was fair game. Now, that behavior is also protected. You are arguing that the laws have not changed and I am pointing out that they have. They have been expanded, and the effect of this is to make trannies a protected class.
 
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>Trans women are women
>Trans Men are men
>Gender fluid are valid

Okay fine... i mean it's bullshit but I get why you're saying it

>NB people thrive
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Is there something i'm not understanding about the mechanics of this one or is it just because they just needed some kind of generic cheer and NB people don't really have any foundational truth to deny?

Disclosure: i'm a burger so maybe I don't have the right context
 
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Trannies are not vulnerable . They've held major seats of power around the world for almost a solid century, not to mention where this cult popped up in other places in ancient history (Greece, babylon, etc).

You are not vulnerable, you are not special, you're not unique. You are basic status quo normie shit

But what about the rabid muslim rapists
That's literally where the tranny fetish came from
 
Reddit is coping hard saying "FINE! Then maybe we'll start sending our big, burly trans men into the ladies room! And then you'll be sorry!"

The tide must really be turning because there are finally immediate responses of "That's totally fine. Send a tiny bearded woman into the ladies room. There are no intimidating 'trans men'. We just don't want hulking rapists in dresses in there anymore."
 
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