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[LaxerBRO]

There's nothing inherently insulting about the word "homeless",

I prefer the term vagrant or transients. More politically correct terms are hobo.

IMHO, the word homeless is just a politically correct term for those sleeping in the street.

Time to go back to Ye Olde English.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

More politically correct terms are hobo.

In the US at least "hobo" is more typically associated with the old timey traveling rail road homeless, and hobos were generally looking for work as the reason for hopping trains.

Significant difference in connotation between hobos, bums, and vagrants.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

In the US at least "hobo" is more typically associated with the old timey traveling rail road homeless, and hobos were generally looking for work as the reason for hopping trains.

Significant difference in connotation between hobos, bums, and vagrants.

I’ve traditionally seen the three types of vagrancy be hobos, tramps, and bums; hobos are itinerant workers who travel where work is to be found and hop the train to greener pastures once the work dries up, tramps travel but try to avoid work, and bums are roughly anchored to an area while refusing to work. Generally all three lack homes because they don't want them, so I can understand having a term for the truly out-of-luck people on the streets. Unfortunately, using the term homeless to describe bums as well as people who technically don't have a residence in their name really dilutes the view of homelessness.

 

[Marvin]

Why won't you let us steal your land?!?!?:

Ignoring the Acela?

I know it's not as fast as Euro trains or Asian trains, but it's technically high speed. It works for the US considering our budget and its use case as the premium, express train for the northeast corridor.

They're usually homeless for a reason, and it's not because "conservatives took away their ability to get a house."

There are plenty of charities / NGOs / government programs that provide support and housing for these people. By the numbers, enough support absolutely exists to house all the homeless nutjobs in the US.

But they're too crazy and/or would rather live on the street and shoot smack or smoke meth. Getting help and getting clean and going into proper housing would mean giving up their drug habit.

The only deterministic way to clean up the streets is to go back to the old way of forcefully locking up the crazies / drug addicts without their consent. And that's a hard decision for society to make.

So for now, we just need to have the cops clear out the tent cities that show up in our towns every few weeks.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Why won't you let us steal your land?!?!?:

If they're going to use Texas examples, in the case of downtown Houston, the wide freeway is replacing another elevated highway that wrapped around the west side of the downtown area (and only took up half a block anyway). The additional freeway doesn't take any residential space at all other than an apartment building (torn down already) and a bunch of housing projects that were half flooded out in Harvey anyway.

They're going to ignore the fact that the elevated highway will be removed and sold off, and just focus on the widened freeway instead; they also can't cry about "well what if the elevated highway was removed and not replaced" because last year a bunch of incompetent Indians showed what would happen if a vital piece of infrastructure just vanished from existence. (It does, in fact, make other roads worse).

Meanwhile, Texas Central wormed its way into government by promising that it was all privately funded, and nothing would be taken from anyone, then changed their story to require eminent domain and utilize Kelo, and now we've gotten to the point where Amtrak is quoting $30B (reality -- probably at least twice that amount), and that's not counting the money that's already spent.

Big tough guys are scared of their neighbor's parked cars though:

To be fair, the Reddit profile suggests woman (with a penchant for Beatles music), possible troon. She claims it's Oregon (makes sense with the mountains in the background) but the Trump signs seem to be more along the lines of "trust me bro" and not visible in any shot. This is definitely the address (look up the street, notice the metal-roofed building with the circle on the side, the flat-roofed apartment building).

If you look at the area around it, it's fairly mixed--the same block has apartment buildings, a sushi restaurant, and within three blocks of any direction you can reach the university, a number of restaurants, a community center, and a convenience store, a few more blocks and you can reach Safeway and a good part of the entire area. It's the neighborhood urbanists claim are superior. It's not just that the sidewalk is being blocked, it's that this guy is a wrongthinker and that's what's keeping the neighborhood from being "good".

Admitting that people, not buildings, are an important component of what makes cities good or not, is something that these people cannot ever admit, because it undermines core American leftist philosophy.

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

I prefer the term vagrant or transients. More politically correct terms are hobo.

IMHO, the word homeless is just a politically correct term for those sleeping in the street.

Time to go back to Ye Olde English.

The correct term is “bum.”

 

[Mister Fister]

I’ve traditionally seen the three types of vagrancy be hobos, tramps, and bums; hobos are itinerant workers who travel where work is to be found and hop the train to greener pastures once the work dries up, tramps travel but try to avoid work, and bums are roughly anchored to an area while refusing to work. Generally all three lack homes because they don't want them, so I can understand having a term for the truly out-of-luck people on the streets. Unfortunately, using the term homeless to describe bums as well as people who technically don't have a residence in their name really dilutes the view of homelessness.

Violent homeless tend to be a lot nicer to people carrying firearms for some reason.

 

[Mister Fister]

The correct term is “bum.”

Can I bum a fag means two very different things.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Pardon the tremendous autism of the subject matter.

A European Yugioh pro points out that he can’t actually play in local events because the trains stop running at 10pm, while the events go to 10:15 pm.

He has to be driven home by the store owner to attend.

Comments are full of people talking about how they have the same problem.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I’ve traditionally seen the three types of vagrancy be hobos, tramps, and bums; hobos are itinerant workers who travel where work is to be found and hop the train to greener pastures once the work dries up, tramps travel but try to avoid work, and bums are roughly anchored to an area while refusing to work. Generally all three lack homes because they don't want them, so I can understand having a term for the truly out-of-luck people on the streets. Unfortunately, using the term homeless to describe bums as well as people who technically don't have a residence in their name really dilutes the view of homelessness.

It should be noted that almost every single time the media uses "houseless" or "unhoused" it's always psychotic, violent people who cannot ever be rehabilitated.

 

[quaawaa]

Pardon the tremendous autism of the subject matter.

A European Yugioh pro points out that he can’t actually play in local events because the trains stop running at 10pm, while the events go to 10:15 pm.

He has to be driven home by the store owner to attend.

Comments are full of people talking about how they have the same problem.

Spoiler: Archive

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A while back there was an /r/fuckcars user who was "forced" to get a drivers license because his Smash tournaments ended after the buses stopped running:

/r/fuckcars user is sad that he had to get his driver's license because his Smash tournaments don't finish until after the buses stop running:


The replies are full of "oh we totally don't want to ban cars, it's ok to use one if you really need to" comments:




Amazing that these people think that playing video games late into the night is an acceptable reason to own a car, but needing to transport large or heavy items, having a family, wanting shorter commutes, not wanting to go shopping everyday, etc. are not valid reasons.

Source (Archive)

 

[P. Barnes’ THOT 2.0]

If you look at the area around it, it's fairly mixed--the same block has apartment buildings, a sushi restaurant, and within three blocks of any direction you can reach the university, a number of restaurants, a community center, and a convenience store, a few more blocks and you can reach Safeway and a good part of the entire area. It's the neighborhood urbanists claim are superior. It's not just that the sidewalk is being blocked, it's that this guy is a wrongthinker and that's what's keeping the neighborhood from being "good".

Oh, yeah it’s Forest Grove which is a pretty standard suburb around here with a pretty big Hispanic population (though not like Hillsboro or Beaverton-known as Hilsburrito and Beanerton, respectively) it’s not giant and sprawling, imo. To me, it feels pretty lower middle class mostly, though there are exceptions.

So this goofy bitch lives there too? The fucking bus and Max go to forest grove. Also, what fucking gall to take a picture and upload it to the Internet. Like, walk around it bitch. With that many cars (even with a trump sticker) chances are it’s beaners or white trash

 

[Atypical Dog]

Pardon the tremendous autism of the subject matter.

A European Yugioh pro points out that he can’t actually play in local events because the trains stop running at 10pm, while the events go to 10:15 pm.

He has to be driven home by the store owner to attend.

Comments are full of people talking about how they have the same problem.

Not enough for Cardcar D so he has to take Bokoichi the Frightening Car instead. Though most of the latter's cargo arrives broken, probably like this guy is.

I don't get it, people live in those neighborhoods specifically because they like having a yard and privacy and not having towers built up 10 feet away from their homes. They enjoy the space and the quietness of the neighborhood. Why then do the bugmen want to force those neighborhoods to become just like a mini urban jungle? You already can live where you want, why are you trying to force your lifestyle onto other people.

Commercial buildings want to be near traffic, it's what drives business. Car traffic usually, foot traffic if conditions are right. What will end up happening is that you'll end up with something like this, it's about a long block in Houston not far from a major road where the houses all got turned into low-impact commercial, like veterinary offices, by-appointment salons, law offices, that sort of thing. Residents got driven out and the yards converted to parking lots.

That's not to say you can't run a business out of your house (under certain conditions but a couples operation is usually totally fine). The only time people even complain is when it starts to being a problem with customers coming in all the time or being too noisy or smelly. If you're bottling homemade hot sauce that gets sold through mail order and at local farmers' market, that's usually fine. If you've got half a dozen employees and bringing in barrels of vinegar every day, then probably not.

If I had to guess they want this because "well I would choose to live there. If there were any!" (disproved handily by Xarpho's Houston eexample). Though you're both right - it'd be hard to kick out a disruptive business without a strong local government or a homeowner's association.

There could be a place for something like this writ-large - gated community facing the highway, gate goes inwards away from the main road while the frontage is commercial spaces. Noise barrier and convenience for the residents in one.
I also confess that I like it because that's how most of my parents and their community started - apartment on the second floor, business on the main street below.

 

[quaawaa]

There could be a place for something like this writ-large - gated community facing the highway, gate goes inwards away from the main road while the frontage is commercial spaces. Noise barrier and convenience for the residents in one.

Congratulations, you just discovered American suburbs!

Pretty much all of them have commercial development on the edges on neighborhoods, but Texan cities are exactly as you describe, with commercial development on highway frontage roads;

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

Congratulations, you just discovered American suburbs!

Pretty much all of them have commercial development on the edges on neighborhoods, but Texan cities are exactly as you describe, with commercial development on highway frontage roads;

North Jersey is like that too. I think most of these people are just imagining Los Angeles. Because as far as "American" cities go, the biggest one is walkable and transit works breddy gud. Same in Chicago, DC, Boston, and really also the Gay Area. No idea about the Troon capitals in the Pacific Northwest, but even if Seattle is basically just LA with rain now, that's hardly something symptomatic of America.

 

[IdiotPlusPlus]

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A while back there was an /r/fuckcars user who was "forced" to get a drivers license because his Smash tournaments ended after the buses stopped running:

God forbid they book a Cab, or hire driver, even limos can be cheap with the right number of people as they usually book fixed fee/by the hour, and not distance/time like regular cabs.

Every time I see something like this I just wander, is it just aggressive ignorance? I get if you've researched the options, but the number of times I've seen these retards say 'I can't do x because of y transport' but when pressed they have no idea things like interstate buses, regional plane hopping, or even just mixed mode routing exist is nuts.

Hell I've been there in the dark ages when trains have stopped running early, and so I instead got a cab home instead, it's not hard lol.

 

[quaawaa]

The shirts are brainwashing kids to like cars!:

Place, Japan:

No, it's massive because T-Rexes are huge:

Replace cars with golf carts and buses?!?:

The delusion continues ("if you have to drive on a highway, you should move"):


Source (Archive)

 

[Xarpho's Return]

A while back there was an /r/fuckcars user who was "forced" to get a drivers license because his Smash tournaments ended after the buses stopped running:

What happened to "bike lanes are REAL freedom"?

North Jersey is like that too. I think most of these people are just imagining Los Angeles. Because as far as "American" cities go, the biggest one is walkable and transit works breddy gud. Same in Chicago, DC, Boston, and really also the Gay Area. No idea about the Troon capitals in the Pacific Northwest, but even if Seattle is basically just LA with rain now, that's hardly something symptomatic of America.

Los Angeles is a little different because it's newer than the East Coast cities but older than most of the Houston/Dallas/Austin suburbs. The first commercial buildings in The Woodlands (picture on the left) were laid down in the early 1980s (houses built in the 1970s), mall came in the 1980s. In Dallas, even as late as 2004 there were still major undeveloped lots (in 1989 that was mostly farmland). That part of Austin was also developed in the 1980s and 1990s, with the freeway coming in the late 1990s and most of the major commercial (retail) development in the early 1990s.

In contrast, Los Angeles sprawl was mostly built out in the 1960s and 1970s, maybe earlier (and none of that being in LA proper, which sprawled out even in the 1930s). In many American cities it's built like an onion, start peeling from the outside and you can see what development was like and how it was built. Even when things change there's still enough evidence to suggest that they literally just don't build them like they used to. Generally, there is no "the city" and the "suburbs" except on predefined borders, especially when it comes to denser buildings in "the suburbs" and single-family houses in "the city".

Replace cars with golf carts and buses?!?:

You see golf carts in Florida sometimes in retirement and/or gated communities. Golf carts are also slow, slower than bicycles. No one is going to drive a golf cart to the grocery store when a car is faster.

The delusion continues ("if you have to drive on a highway, you should move"):

The problem is, "the city" with its denser housing is going to be more expensive every time. I suppose there's going to be some examples where suburbs are going to be more expensive than the city (Detroit, maybe), but even when the city is a dump there's probably some going to be some reason why its more expensive.

 

[quaawaa]

A Polish city is getting a beautiful new school, but because it has a parking lot and a drop-off lane they hate it (even though it also has a Dutch-style bike lane):







Google Maps

Remember, this school is in Poznań, Poland:


I wonder why real-life buildings look like buildings in city simulation games...:







Source (Archive)

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

What kind of monster wants to drop off their kids and give them a hug and kiss on the way to work?