The Australian totalitarian megathread - She won't be right mate.

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Unity and friendship between abos and whites can be finally achieved with our mutual hatred of the jeet infestation.

 

[Salinger]

Need I remind you immigration has never been put to the electorate here? It's not going to be voted on because it's an election killer, like taxing Superannuation, and would target the very people Labor champions (low-education, high-income, manual worker).

Gina Rinehart is on the record as saying she wants to import Africans because they would be cheap labour, and she's one of the primary backers of the LNP at the moment. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if they make her in charge of an Australian DOGE if they win, which I could not abide.

You'll just see massive expansions of native title and land rights over industry, until the cost of the extortion to make the Rainbow Serpent happy is higher than the return on the mine would justify.

Better going to the boungs than the jeets. At least if they're give as part of land royalties the money is staying in country. 86% of Australian mines are owned by foreign interests.

Whether it's cotton or coal or bloody sand shipped to a sinking Pacific island, that's what is the lifeblood of the economy here.

We're an export economy because we have basically no secondary industry to speak of. And being predominantly Primary industry, we are incredibly vulnerable to the global economic market, and particularly the whims of Beijing. Someone has said it in the thread before, we should be using this economic momentum to diversify, make ourselves less reliant on the international market and conserve our local environment.

Now in spite of my environmental conservatism, I'm just as allergic, if not more so, to the phrase "Green Tech Manufacturing" as you are. But at least Labor are talking about building up A manufacturing sector, as fucking useless as the particular one they've chosen is. instead of praying MINES & REAL ESTATE never stop laying golden eggs.

But I do want to be proven otherwise because Albo is fucking cringe.

 

[khaine]

Prepare to be disappointed. Both parties are fucking useless.

 

[khaine]

Expect more migrants from the uniparty

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Migrant surge to persist as graduates bring in families

A glut of Indian and Nepalese foreign student graduates is likely to bring tens of thousands of family members to Australia to accompany them while they work on post-study visas, undermining promises by Labor and the Coalition that they can get migration numbers under control.
New analysis of Home Affairs data by international education analyst Andrew Norton shows how students from parts of South-East Asia and the Indian subcontinent, who drove a post-pandemic enrolment surge, readily access opportunities under the so-called 485 visa class to bring in dependants.
Of the 214,000 people in the country on these temporary graduate visas, one in five are the spouses or children of primary visa holders. For those from China, the largest foreign student cohort, just 12 per cent of 485 visa holders are dependants. But at least one in three of those from Bhutan, Nepal, Pakistan, the Philippines, Sri Lanka and India are family members.

The 485 visa is demand-driven – anyone who has completed an accredited course in the past six months is eligible to apply for it – and is set to get a workout as the flood of students who came to Australia after the reopening of international borders move through the system.
“The really big increase in new overseas student enrolments were in 2023 and 2024 and that will flow through to a big increase in people applying for 485 visas,” said Norton, a higher education policy expert from Monash University.
“So if they started a two-year-master’s degree at the beginning of 2023, they will have graduated by the end of 2024. We will start to see pretty significant numbers will start to apply now and in the coming months.”
Federal data shows there were 402,538 new university and vocational enrolments in 2023, and 435,450 in 2024, compared with 345,600 in 2019. International education is a $51 billion industry.
Ahead of the May 3 election, both sides have grappled with how to show they are managing migration levels to ensure they do not push up house prices and put pressure on infrastructure and services.
During the last term, Labor tried to legislate an annual cap on foreign student enrolments of 270,000 but the plan was torpedoed by the Coalition and Greens. It has used other ministerial directions to clamp down on visa approvals and put more hurdles in place for prospective students, which are starting to slow applications.
Dutton’s pledge
These include higher English language requirements, increasing non-refundable visa fees to $1600, boosting the amount of cash potential students have in the bank to $29,710 and banning second student visa applications from people still in the country.
Having blocked Labor’s caps in November, describing them as “chaotic and confused” and arguing they would do little to rein in migration, Coalition leader Peter Dutton earlier this month announced he would cap new students at 240,000 a year, increase visa fees to up to $5000 and also limit overseas students to 25 per cent of total enrolments at public universities.
Both sides have also promised a lowering of net overseas migration, which is the difference between long-term arrivals and departures. But the demand-driven nature of temporary migrant schemes – including students, backpackers and skilled workers – and the propensity for some to prolong their stay by moving to new visa classes has played havoc with the forecasts.
Dutton also said he would introduce a “rapid review” of the 485 graduate visa program to “address misuse of post-study work arrangements”.
Norton said it was “very likely” some groups were exploiting 485 visas, by bringing in their family members to also access the jobs market and in the hope they might eventually be eligible for permanent residency.
Under immigration rules, both overseas students and graduate visa holders can bring family members with them. Spouses can legally work for up to 48 hours a fortnight. Some may work illegally in the cash economy. Research by the Grattan Institute in 2023 found that graduates on 485 visas in low-paid jobs were more likely to exploit the visa system to work and were also more likely to be exploited by unscrupulous employers.
The 485 visa, also known as post-study work rights, was introduced in 2011 as a way of attracting and keeping more international students. It has subsequently been emulated by key markets including the UK, Canada and New Zealand.
The visa automatically awards the right to work in Australia following the completion of an accredited university or vocational course for between 18 months and three years – but up to five years for British and Hong Kong nationals.
While the intention is for overseas graduates to gain work experience in their area of study before they return home, research shows that the vast majority struggle to gain meaningful work and end up in low-skill jobs.
Norton said it was important not to dismiss this since those graduates working in menial jobs in the care sector, hospitality and transport, were doing jobs that locals choose not to do.
“The reality is that for people from poor countries, even doing unskilled work in Australia, is going to pay more than what they would earn back home,” Norton said.
“And if they’ve borrowed money to finance their university or vocational course, which many will have, being able to work in Australia is an important part of paying the cost of that back.”

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

Prepare to be disappointed. Both parties are fucking useless.

My electorate is very marginal between Libs and Labor this time, is it even worth putting a vote in? Or should I just draw a dick on the ballot or something?
The way I see it is that both are fucking useless, I was planning on voting Liberal but they have shot themselves in the head about 5 times recently and now I'm not so sure, despite how much I despise Albo.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

 

[Salinger]

Prepare to be disappointed. Both parties are fucking useless.

Yeah, well, figured out the end of the ballot at least

Labor
LNP
Greens

 

[dumb squid]

My electorate is very marginal between Libs and Labor this time, is it even worth putting a vote in? Or should I just draw a dick on the ballot or something?
The way I see it is that both are fucking useless, I was planning on voting Liberal but they have shot themselves in the head about 5 times recently and now I'm not so sure, despite how much I despise Albo.

Yeah vote anyway mate - either cock (and balls) vote, or vote below the line for everyone before whatever major you think you'd prefer. Even if it won't amount to much, it's best to at least show some discontent or protest.

Yeah, well, figured out the end of the ballot at least

Labor
LNP
Greens

Yeah spot on mate, fuck 'em.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

Yeah, well, figured out the end of the ballot at least

Labor
LNP
Greens

Found a 15 year old video about the Greens, and its aged like Wine. I'm surprised the ABC ever aired it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnvRmj7G3XE

 

[thefreshmaker]

But at least Labor are talking about building up A manufacturing sector, as fucking useless as the particular one they've chosen is. instead of praying MINES & REAL ESTATE never stop laying golden eggs.

Economically it's impossible. We have no ability to get a competitive advantage here, due to the lack of people and high cost of production. The only areas we have an industrial advantage is high-cost, high-tech defense prototypes, particularly in the field of lasers. This is not scalable - the particular industry is already at full employment with just a few dozen boffins at universities in research roles. Industrial production would be immediately undercut by global prices for anything other than niche products we already produce.

Now I did mention the solution above - more workers, lower costs. That's happening now, but even with 750,000 new Australians every year it's nowhere near enough to develop a reasonable industrial base. The only sensible form of production for Australia today is low-rate production to preserve capacity for emergencies. Building a submarine every two years, building a new Tangara train set every year, etc. That's not going to create a glut of good jobs and it's not going to be efficient, though certainly it would be popular (until people see the price tag for each widget).

Mining and agriculture are so big because the cost of the output is still super high despite the high cost of wages and access to these remote sites. It definitely is vulnerable to the global market, but that is still superior to being completely blocked from starting up due to the global market.

The only world where Australia has any sort of industry is the world people are angry about now. The only world where Australia has any sort of industry is the world where a billion Indians live here.

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

My electorate is very marginal between Libs and Labor this time, is it even worth putting a vote in? Or should I just draw a dick on the ballot or something?
The way I see it is that both are fucking useless, I was planning on voting Liberal but they have shot themselves in the head about 5 times recently and now I'm not so sure, despite how much I despise Albo.

Vote for whatever will make it most difficult for anyone to form government.

At the moment, that would be minor party/parties first, then preference Coalition before ALP.

 

[Coon Cheese]

The mass calling out of a people attempting to secure world class living standards by shipping dirt and rocks and growing their economy at 0.1% via importing 800,000 Indians is well under way. This place is a phuckn mess.

Why should Japan & Korea struggle with their complex and world renown exports and an absolute plebatron rock seller think it's rich?

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/1/14/australias-economy-was-the-envy-of-the-world-now-its-falling-behind

Australia is just an economic zone and were all just economic units. and we need those immigrants to boost the GDP. what do you want the economy to be bad or something? think of the shareholders and the rich! You will accept the new Shit skinned or flat faced gooks as New Australians and you will be happy.

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Horrific. I was on an Essendon tram the other day. broad day light and a pack of 3 niggers entered the tram with cheap wine bottles and they were drunk. I was just sitting thinking why the fuck are these nigger beasts here? like what is the societal or even economic game. honestly glad I saw them as I was apartment hunting. so I'm glad I prevented a potential "warm and friendly" event occurring to me in my home.

 

[privateexpediency99]

Economically it's impossible. We have no ability to get a competitive advantage here, due to the lack of people and high cost of production.

Wow it's almost like if the country stopped importing millions of indians as a retarded band-aid fix and actually focused on developing domestic education and manufacturing it would solve this problem. It's almost as if the complete neglect of this for decades has caused this very issue...

The only areas we have an industrial advantage is high-cost, high-tech defense prototypes, particularly in the field of lasers. This is not scalable - the particular industry is already at full employment with just a few dozen boffins at universities in research roles.

Wow it's almost like pumping the countries universities full of funny money from the US purely to serve international students causes directionless and niche innovations that don't benefit anyone except the US. Curious.

Industrial production would be immediately undercut by global prices for anything other than niche products we already produce.

No it wouldn't. If we actually refined and manufactured our own shit instead of just digging it out the ground, loading it onto boats, and sending it straight to China for pennies on the dollar, we would have a significant advantage. We would control the main supply chains for most in-demand resources which would give us incredible leverage on the global scale. I think you perhaps do not realise how many resources Australia has and squanders. I'm not exaggerating when I say our country should look like Saudi Arabia, when instead we look more and more like Mumbai. If we actually developed our own refineries for even 1 resource, lets say Lithium. This would be enough to catapult us to the top. Lithium is already in very high demand and it's only growing, and if we had already done this decades ago we would be in an even better position as we could have capitalised on the huge surge of developing technology (e.g smartphones, electric cars, drones, etc.)

Now keep in mind that's 1 resource. We also have on top of that, Iron, Gold, Coal, Uranium, Lead, Nickel, Cobalt, and a shit load of other more niche materials. These are all major resources that are highly in demand and probably will continue to be in high demand until future tech like Asteroid mining becomes a thing which wont happen for a long time.

Now I did mention the solution above - more workers, lower costs.

Funny you hear a bunch of sleazy cunts say this over and over. Ok well they imported 2 million of them and so far cost of living has skyrocketed, real estate and rentals are just fucked, crime has skyrocketed, and anecdotally my city looks and smells worse since it happened. I looked at a 1 bedroom rental property around 6 months ago and so many indians and their comically large families showed up they were literally filling the entire street. None of them spoke english or could even communicate with the agent, and myself and 2 other people were the only white people there.

But I guess we just need to import another 2 million to see the true benefits right? I mean India has 1.4 billion of them so their country must look like a futuristic utopia.


Oh never mind.

Mining and agriculture are so big because the cost of the output is still super high despite the high cost of wages and access to these remote sites

Mining, Agriculture are big because they are the only relevant things in our country, and it's really fucking hard to get investment for anything that isn't those things. If someone innovates a new tech or industry here, 1 of 2 things usually happens.

1. The industry is strangled to death by over regulation from a government that has no understanding of modern technology or innovation.
2. There is no investment opportunities here to scale from idea to viable product. Getting investment in this country for anything that isn't mining or agriculture is impossible. That is why you see many Australian innovators (both past and present) immediately leave Australia the second they get any sort of success. You are gonna get very depressed when you google some of the inventions/ideas our country passed up and just let fuck off to the US/EU because we didn't care enough to invest in them.

The only world where Australia has any sort of industry is the world people are angry about now. The only world where Australia has any sort of industry is the world where a billion Indians live here.

Damn I guess your right. Australia was never able to build things in the past, not like we had Holden or anything. How did our country ever get by without jeets lending us a helping hand. We were really struggling before all the jeets showed up, it's not like the country was better in every fucking possible way.

If you think the only way forward for our country is importing a bajillion jeets, then that should just tell you how broken the country is and how desperately things need to change.

 

[Dr. Octagon]

This country is fucked.
We will be worse than Canada in 5 years time:

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/australian-nightmare-crisis-we-cant-ignore/news-story/9341a6adf0b39a2a3399e70c75d1de58

Stopping immigration isn't enough.
We need remigration now.
It's gone too far.

 

[Flaming Dumpster]

Unity and friendship between abos and whites can be finally achieved with our mutual hatred of the jeet infestation.

Only reason the abos are pissed is they now have competition for state housing. I won't ever consider them a friend but I will echo their plight since abos do at least have more claim to free shit from the government than some straight off the boat black as the ace of spades African or Jeet.

RE: The discussion on protests and what might make the government reconsider the plan of infinite migration. Protests will only be effective if it's the people who make society work that participate in great enough numbers to immediately disrupt day-to-day life. e.g. transport workers, supermarket staff, bin men, etc.

The mass import of brain dead foreigners is an obvious way to curtail the power a unified public could hold as the government bets that they'll never kick up a fuss. That being said it's driven by people with an HR mindset that think 1 Whitey = 1 African. If key White people working for Coles, Woolworths, Aldi and IGA walked off the job, their Indian slave army will be utterly aimless and a food shortage would begin within days.

You can bet if condemnation and threats from government mouthpieces is ineffective, the small concessions that may be made will be laughable and withdrawn as soon as people return to work. I actually don't see a way that protests can work to fix the situation unless the protests turn into riots that are so violent and uncontrollable that politicians find themselves physically threatened by them, deposed and the system upended.

Powers that be really feel the worst case scenario is some humiliation and a fat pension. They cannot conceive of a scenario where they're torn to pieces and admittedly I can't see that happening either. Look at how incredibly fucked up South Africa is and yet their president sleeps soundly at night.

It frustrates me that people who have reached the end of their tether choose to go out quietly in the night.

 

[Pork Wellington]

I actually don't see a way that protests can work to fix the situation unless the protests turn into riots that are so violent and uncontrollable that politicians find themselves physically threatened by them, deposed and the system upended.

Agreed. I lost complete faith in the idea of protesting when the second Iraq war jumped off. I was indifferent on the matter, but absolutely surprised at the time, that despite it being the biggest protest I had seen world-wide, governments just ignored it.

Even now, when I see people protesting, nothing happens; nothing changes. They get a bit of publicity on the TV; get arrested; and government policy doesn't shift.

At this point, I think protesting is for soft, domesticated faggots clambering for a moral high ground that most people don't care about.
You are not in control. You never were in control. You have no say.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

It frustrates me that people who have reached the end of their tether choose to go out quietly in the night.

It seems to be a thing that governments in the Anglosphere are excellent at is repressing any kind of right wing protest/uprising with the most extreme counter measures. Look at what happened to the guys in the UK who were on the streets outside migrant hotels, they emptied prisons of violent criminals just so they could lock those protestors up. Even people making a Facebook comment saw jail time in excess of a year.

Same with Tarrant in NZ, we saw how hard the NZ government went after anyone who even tacitly expressed support for that. Our governments hate us and will expend vast amounts of resources to ensure that we are discredited and sent away for wrongthink. Yet the Just Stop Oil loons will never see any consequences for their actions. Going out quietly into the night and looking after your own seems like a much nicer prospect when you consider that. It's a damn shame.

 

[Salinger]

The only world where Australia has any sort of industry is the world people are angry about now. The only world where Australia has any sort of industry is the world where a billion Indians live here.

I disagree. The consumer grade shit we import from China/India has a lifespan of 3 months over the warranty. I think more of a percentage of the domestic market would be willing to pay a premium if it had a Made in Australia badge and lasted longer. Secondly, if the issue is the amount of labour available you can automate a shit ton, train the work force up to both understand the process and know how to service the machines that do it so you have a fall back. But I really don't think that's an issue. We had a decent manufacturing sector until the early 2000s, with a better standard of living.

Same with Tarrant in NZ, we saw how hard the NZ government went after anyone who even tacitly expressed support for that. Our governments hate us and will expend vast amounts of resources to ensure that we are discredited and sent away for wrongthink. Yet the Just Stop Oil loons will never see any consequences for their actions.

I know Nationalist group leaders who've been raided by the AFP, who decried Tarrant's actions. A few of the groups completely dispanded, though a portion of members have moved over to more violent groups. They're probably honeypots though.

 

[Coon Cheese]

I know Nationalist group leaders who've been raided by the AFP, who decried Tarrant's actions. A few of the groups completely dispanded, though a portion of members have moved over to more violent groups. They're probably honeypots though.

The biggest Australian "white Nationalist" group is a massive fed op. It's called MSM or MSN or NSN or some gay shit. they all wear full black nigger tier antifa cuck uniforms and hide their faces with balaclavas. don't join them or go to any of their events you're going to have your life ruined either by libtards that have infiltrated or by the AFP kicking in your door and bashing your dog and misses. Those low IQ nigger cattle arern't the answer to Australia's immigration crisis. There was a 60 minutes documentary/exposé on them and shocker not one of the members has a job that requires an above year 8 reading level.

 

[thefreshmaker]

@privateexpediency99 you've missed the forest for the trees in my comment.

I don't want a Big Australia, my point is that pining for a day where Australia has industry is not realistic, unless you want to be spending more in subsidies than the actual cost of the goods.

Holden failed here for a reason, Austal builds ships at rates designed only to sustain minimum skill levels here for a reason. Glass manufacturers are almost completely dead here for a reason.

Manufacturing in the modern world is either high-tech or low-tech, low-manpower or high-manpower. We already do high-tech manufacturing to capacity and doing low-tech manufacturing will mean higher taxes to guarantee subsidies to make our products more attractive to consumers. You'll have lower quality products because the producers will get 80% of the cost paid by the government for being prestigious made in Australia with no concern about end product viability. You'll see Australia paying Indonesia half the cost of a cargo ship just to get them to order one from Cockatoo Island.

The economy here has developed the way it has, like how China became the world's factory and London became the world's money laundering centre, because it fit our global advantages. Platitudes about people preferring high-quality goods over Chinese garbage is all well and good, but the reality is people don't when it comes to 90% of their purchases. They don't want low quality phones or computers, but they also don't want expensive clothes or food.

Everything comes at a cost, and bringing an industrial sector larger than 5% of GDP would mean a huge cost of living and low wages due to the amount of population required, or the huge cost of taxes to sustain inefficient production.