UK U.K. Top Court Says Trans Women Do Not Meet Legal Definition of Women Under Equality Act - The UK Supreme Court says YWNBAW! (although the trans identity is still a protected characteristic)

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The New York Times. Published: 16 April 2025

U.K. Top Court Says Trans Women Do Not Meet Legal Definition of Women Under Equality Act​

Britain’s Supreme Court was asked to rule on whether trans women can be defined as female under a British law that aims to protect against discrimination.

The Supreme Court in Britain ruled on Wednesday that trans women do not fall within the legal definition of women under the country’s equality legislation.

The deputy president of the court, Lord Hodge, said in a summary of the decision: “The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms ‘woman’ and ‘sex’ in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological women and biological sex.”

However, he added: “We counsel against reading this judgment as a triumph of one or more groups in our society at the expense of another, it is not.” He said the ruling “does not cause disadvantage to trans people” because they have protections under anti-discrimination and equality laws.

The landmark judgment follows a yearslong legal battle over whether trans women can be regarded as female under the 2010 law, which aims to prevent discrimination on the basis of gender, sexuality, race and other protected characteristics.

The decision was highly anticipated because it could have potentially far-reaching consequences for how the law is applied to single sex spaces, equal pay claims and maternity policies as well as to some of the rights available to transgender people in Britain.

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BBC live reporting; https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvgq9ejql39t



Also, sex is binary:

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Related:
JK Rowling, the Queen of TERF Island who helped fund this lawsuit, is celebrating.

And the troons are melting down even more than usual over her. See:
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/u-k-to...women-under-equality-act.217313/post-21120381
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/u-k-to...women-under-equality-act.217313/post-21129887
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/u-k-to...women-under-equality-act.217313/post-21135630

 

[batigol]

You can really tell Kier was sat down at some point and told to cut it with a lot of the far left shit he was doing early on. He went from overwhelmingly pro trans to "you're not a real women tranny" almost over night, same with a lot of other issues.

Now if only he could go full stormfront with the diversity...

Starmer is an algorithm whose logic is based on Marcusian influenced Marxism and what I can only think to describe as doctrinaire judicialism. If you want to know what he will think on a given issue look at the law then interpret it through a Marx filter, if there is no applicable legal precedent then apply the Marx filter only.

Starmer's opinion changed because the the UK Supreme court made a legal ruling which changed one of the parameters of Starmer.exe.

 

[Otterly]

Do you notice that he is basing his own "personal view" on what the law is, not the other way around?

Yeah. He’s terrifying

For Starmer, the law defines reality. There is no moral truth independent of law, law establishes morality.

This is a much more eloquent way of putting what I was trying to say with my giraffe comment. He thinks reality flows from the law. That’s a terrifying way of thinking

Most people work the other way around, they base their opinion on their moral system and that may or may not line up with the law, then you place your political outlook accordingly as to whether you want to accept or change how things are on a given issue.

Some people work the other way around. We are back to Kohlbergs stages of morality development. Most people start as children not doing bad things because they’ll get told off. Most get to the stage where they realise some things are right or wrong but only a minority reach the stage where they derive a consistent moral compass from experience and reflection and obey that even if it conflicts with the law. Of course it doesn’t help if the law is so epically an ass…
But to have someone go that route of thinking the law defines reality is a further aberration. He is a terrifying person to have in control. Someone made a point either in this thread or the other that if kier was required by law to kill your family he’d do so without hesitation and if the law changed halfway through he’d stop and be baffled that he’d done anything wrong.
I’m sure there’s a better description In philosophy of this type of person, or maybe in dickens or Kafka.,, but he scares the shit out of me. A man utterly without morality. This is the banality of evil

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

This means that irishpedotranny Jonathan Joly will get arrested.

A lot of dudes on the internet talking big about not complying and still invading women’s spaces, we’ll see if they get rightfully pilloried.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

Another sudden reason for the push is it's simple use as a tool to confuse and frame the issue.

It's doubly evil since these same people are basically erasing intersex people and insisting they aren't males or females. When intersex is no such thing. I've seen hem starting to get vocal of social media and reddit. As the walls of TRA imposed silence continue to fall, more are speaking out. Without fear of being banned and screeched down.

All the existence of intersex people proves, at most, is that there are rare exceptions to the biological gender binary. But those exceptions are genetic. Your sex is still determined by your DNA.

It does not mean that you can claim ownership of a different sex because you want to. You are as limited in your sex by your DNA as someone with Kleinfelder (XXY) Syndrome. A troon will never be a woman in the same way that I will never be intersex. It proves nothing beyond the same biological determinism that the TRAs are so vehemently opposed to.

There is fresh water, and there is salt water. In some circumstances, there is brackish water. But that doesn't mean you can drink from the ocean.

I wouldn't give it that much, even "at best" since these conditions often come with serious and unpleasant health issues in addition to sterility.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Starmer is an algorithm whose logic is based on Marcusian influenced Marxism and what I can only think to describe as doctrinaire judicialism.

This is essentially the same attitude as an islamic cleric. Extreme judicialism and slavish adherence to the law, interpreted through the lens of a strict collectivist ideology that reduces the individual to a mere component in a grand machine. You end up agonising over the minutiae of life through the imposition of absurd legalisms, to the point that you're judging people guilty of capital crimes for carrying eggs while under the influence of twitter. Sounds like a hellish existence.

 

[Guavedoches Warrior]

Look up Adolescent Medical Transition is Ethical: An Analogy with Reproductive Health by "Florence Ashley" for the whole thing

I quite like the way Florence Ashley writes, even if I disagree with the actual argument and content.

It's a very... 'trans woman' name to choose, though. A bit like calling oneself "Woman McWomany".

 

[kcbbq]

This is a much more eloquent way of putting what I was trying to say with my giraffe comment. He thinks reality flows from the law. That’s a terrifying way of thinking

He trying to thread the needle of not getting no confidence out, because at this point and because of whatever is in the water in bongland the electorate could install Nigel Farage as Lord Protector.

 

[Dr. Butt]

I think you’re barking up the wrong tree there, bro.

I used "was"! How fucking common are necrophiliacs in your life??

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

I used "was"! How fucking common are necrophiliacs in your life??

Honestly I fear the amount of people willing to fuck anything dead or alive is far higher than we like to think.

 

[SimplyScrumptious]

Honestly I fear the amount of people willing to fuck anything dead or alive is far higher than we like to think.

Cars, food, the Eiffel Tower…
Hell I’m sure there’s a whole group of people who genuinely think the Statue of Liberty is a sexy goddess and want to lick its feet.

 

[FedPostalService]

I used "was"! How fucking common are necrophiliacs in your life??

Where there's a will, a spade, and a bit of lube, there's a way.

 

[Procopius]

The tranny reactions just keep on getting funnier and funnier. Better avoid London on the 25th of May. If you go down to the woods that day you're sure of a big surprise. I wonder when Kevin is flying in.

British men to hold mass topless protest against UK Supreme Court for saying they are not women​

Apr 22, 2025

No, this is not satire. This is a real thing from the transgender activist group called STRIVE. They posted about it on Bluesky.

Judging by the camera angle that hides the Adam's apple, I'm guessing that "Sara" is one of the dudes with long hair who will be showing off their chests at this London protest.

I might just set a reminder for this event because it might be the new peak of clown world.​

STRIVE is protesting against the recent UK Supreme Court decision that clarified that men who are pretending to be women are not actually women under the definition of the law.

They even want to make it a daily protest if possible!

Have fun out there, bros!​

https://notthebee.com/article/breaking-men-organize-topless-protest-against-uk-supreme-courts-decision-that-men-are-not-women

 

[Dr. Butt]

Please God let this happen

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Please God let this happen

If 1000 mutilated men with bolt-ons really do show up to a topless protest, isn’t that proof there is no God?

 

[AnOminous]

Please God let this happen

Imagine all the Tranny Sideshow thread posts we'll get out of these freaks showing their moobs. They definitely shouldn't arrest them, because it is not considered indecent exposure for a male to expose his moobs.

If 1000 mutilated men with bolt-ons really do show up to a topless protest, isn’t that proof there is no God?

It's proof there's a God. And it's also a proof He hates us.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

Please God let this happen

lol indeed.. Thanks to existing at the center of the bubble protecting progressive and elite social life, the purity spiral and being the group protected in it above all else. These people have no idea what they sound and look like to normal people. Used to the normal smug in-group clapping and indifference over pompous leftist "protest" tactics and an enshrined belief that they can't be criticized or called out. They are going to keep pushing to the point of violence at this rate. They really think their tantrums are that important and their opinion beyond question. I mean they have already spent the last week lamenting the fact that they didn't beat people harder and silence/threaten/punish for not holding the 100% correct opinions.

 

[AssignedEva]

The tranny reactions just keep on getting funnier and funnier. Better avoid London on the 25th of May. If you go down to the woods that day you're sure of a big surprise. I wonder when Kevin is flying in.

That protest doesn't make sense in the UK. Public nudity is legal. Every year in Central London there's a naked bike ride.

Spoiler: NSFW

It's only in America where there are specific obscenity laws banning women from being topless but not men (although they probably get their ideas from Americans on social media).
That being said, there is such a thing as a public order offense, which is intentionally trying to cause alarm or distress (and if they do anything more than disrobe, which you know they will, that goes double for lewd, obscene or disgusting acts that outrage public decency). It's not gender specific and unsurprisingly they've not found a super duper clever loophole if they're specifically saying they're going to go around shirtless to try and upset people.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

(although they probably get their ideas from Americans on social media).

Well there was that green councillor in Bristol at the weekend who made a speech that led up to the statement, 'transfolk aren't the reason you can't afford eggs.' In Bristol, UK. Where eggs can be got for £1.50 a half dozen.

 

[Otterly]

Go ahead lads, I’m sure the sight of a load of hulking troons with bolt-on tits will peak half the country. The average person will expect tits and see the reality - like two chameleon’s eyes parked on a VW bonnet.
Go right ahead.

 

[ScooterL]

What caused this shift?

Trans Visibility.

Normies are now looking at trannies a lot more often, and they don't like what they see.