General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

TrainWreckWatcher said:
I refuse to believe any of these girls think of each other as actual friends.
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Eh, depending on how introverted or closed off some of them are, I can see them thinking they’re actually friends with someone whose only using them as an opportunity to get views and attention.
 
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I'm hoping a lot of these vtuber ewhores get exposed because of Sinder's shit. The fallout from this will be delicious.
 
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So the gist is her boyfriend-manager made an artist work with her exclusively? Is there anything specifically that was really bad?
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But she did it on the down-low and she would scuttle projects that were already in the works for people that she claimed to be friends with.
 
Can someone summarize all those google docs? What did Sinder and her BF actually do ? "Gaslighting" can be anything these days. Trying to have exclusive contracts with Artist isn't anything unusual.... This all seems really petty and overblown.
Moom is singing a song called departure and they decided to project highlights from all her 3D streams (+ holoogra) onto the background. Kinda neat.
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edit: its over. o7 moom
 
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Having seen Sinder's doc and the reactions to it...how many of y'all won the pot for 'Sinder plays dumb and blames her boyfriend' and what was the buy-in for that?

Safe to say we knew she would try it though and look where that got her. Hell, seeing Shylily react to her statement, and the tone she had in it, means Sinder is fucked 6 ways to Sunday and not in a fun way.

Still, some are wondering what's gonna happen regarding GamerSups and I'm going to guess that the other owners and stakeholders are going to meet and discuss how to move forward.

No way they can sweep this shitshow under the rug. They'll be left with no choice but to either buyout her share, if that's what she got to be a partial owner, vote her out, or push her out some other way. At the end of the day, Sinder's become a brand risk and a major liability. The longer she stays, the worse the blowback will be on GS.
 
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Undercover Commissioner said:
Can someone summarize all those google docs? What did Sinder and her BF actually do ? "Gaslighting" can be anything these days. Trying to have exclusive contracts with Artist isn't anything unusual.... This all seems really petty and overblown.
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Tried to talk Nanoless into a weird exclusivity deal that wasn't actually to pay her for exclusivity just for her to not take new clients and cut of only specific old clients. (Bao, Silvervale, Shylily)

Nano in general seemed uneasy but pretty easily pushed around during the entire time taking quite a while to finally actually reject the offer.

Afterward Nano spoke directly to Sinder instead of the BF/Manager, expressing that there were no hard feelings over rejecting the deal. Sinder's response was "it's just business" and supporting her bf's rationale for wanting the exclusivity and then trying to say this (taken from Nano's doc)
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This I believe is what most people are calling gaslighting in the situation along with some of the comments Red had made because the comments are very misrepresentative of what their prior discussion had been and instead is tossing it back on Nano as a guilt trip.

If it were just a push for an exclusivity contract I don't think anyone would mind, because like you say that's a pretty normal thing, but all of these discussions that were shown are couched in sort of emotionally manipulative language rather than any sort of actual business dealing. This on top of the more petty nature of very directly expressing that the desire for the exclusivity was, more than to just protect her own brand, but to specifically damage others, and those others being individuals she was supposedly friends with.
Town Drunk said:
40 minutes, only Promise as guests, guess she really wanted out as fast as she could. Liked her well enough, wish her the best.
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To be fair the final song there "Mumei" had all of EN singing the backing vocals by the end of it.

Which you might think "yeah but they weren't there" but well...... idk it's a kanauru video, Mumei wasn't there either, it's all digitally produced at that point. And yeah like was said above it's short length was because her throat wouldn't hold up for longer (mentioned on stream yesterday and referenced again in a tweet from her earlier today)
 
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