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Sth sth that goyim bitch sth sth oy vey sth sth it should have been me
Okay I usually respect your posts, but your sperging over this woman has been demented, so I'm just gonna answer all of it at once.

Her financial, social and marrital status do not matter in the slightest, cause it was funny How she called that nigger a nigger. And now it's even funnier all the niggers crying damn them crackers really be hating us this much. And most importantly, it's the people's money and they can spend it however they want (it's basically fucking worthless anyway) and you should just stop being a pocket watching kike and stop caring about others money(literally impossible for a kike). I mean I get this, this fucking goy bitch made infinitely more plus 300k extra what you make posting here, but just stop.
 
Nazism is a branch of fascism, which is left wing... if we insist on using the dumb left-right dichotomy.
Fascism is not left wing and never will be.
  • Anarchists: Fascists are right wing
  • Communists: Fascists are right wing
  • Monarchists: Fascists are right wing
  • Centrists: Fascists are right wing
  • Libs: Fascists are right wing
  • Reactionaries: Fascists are right wing
  • American "Conservatives": No, they're left wing! Look at the party name!
  • Actual Fascists: We're right wing.
 
Okay I usually respect your posts, but your sperging over this woman has been demented, so I'm just gonna answer all of it at once.

Her financial, social and marrital status do not matter in the slightest, cause it was funny How she called that nigger a nigger. And now it's even funnier all the niggers crying damn them crackers really be hating us this much. And most importantly, it's the people's money and they can spend it however they want (it's basically sucking worthless anyway) and you should just stop being a pocket watching kike and stop caring about others money(literally impossible for a kike). I mean I get this, fucking goy bitch made infinitely more plus 300k extra what you make posting here, but just stop.
The situation is funny, but don't miss the true lesson here either: do something that makes people agree with/like you, then ask for their money.
 
Fascism is not left wing and never will be.
  • Anarchists: Fascists are right wing
  • Communists: Fascists are right wing
  • Monarchists: Fascists are right wing
  • Centrists: Fascists are right wing
  • Libs: Fascists are right wing
  • Reactionaries: Fascists are right wing
  • American "Conservatives": No, they're left wing! Look at the party name!
  • Actual Fascists: We're right wing.
who the fuck is a monarchist in the 21st century. who would the king of America even be??
 
Fascism is not left wing and never will be.
  • Anarchists: Fascists are right wing
  • Communists: Fascists are right wing
  • Monarchists: Fascists are right wing
  • Centrists: Fascists are right wing
  • Libs: Fascists are right wing
  • Reactionaries: Fascists are right wing
  • American "Conservatives": No, they're left wing! Look at the party name!
  • Actual Fascists: We're right wing.
Oh boy, we got a lil' antifa visiting us! Be gentle, he's a bit soft
 
Oh boy, we got a lil' antifa visiting us! Be gentle, he's a bit soft
lol, I've been openly rightist my entire time on this site. You must be new here. Imagine thinking people who speak highly of Franco/Mussolini would be lefties.

Point is even left-leaning types understand Fascism is right wing, only people who seemingly don't are lots of Americans who describe themselves as right wing.
 
lol, I've been openly rightist my entire time on this site. You must be new here. Imagine thinking people who speak highly of Franco/Mussolini would be lefties.

Point is even left-leaning types understand Fascism is right wing, only people who seemingly don't are lots of Americans who describe themselves as right wing.
yeah went back and clearly you aren't antifa. So my bad on that. Still, a massively bloated state taking control and coercing the populace? Feels pretty damn lefty to me
 
lol, I've been openly rightist my entire time on this site. You must be new here. Imagine thinking people who speak highly of Franco/Mussolini would be lefties.

Point is even left-leaning types understand Fascism is right wing, only people who seemingly don't are lots of Americans who describe themselves as right wing.
Fascism is a tool of control wielded by every dictator using the state in history. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, all fit the definition of fascism, which is a convoluted definition because every retard fights over it, but put simply : everything within the state.
 
who the fuck is a monarchist in the 21st century. who would the king of America even be??
unironically, a theocratic monarchy would be better than the hopelessly corrupt "liberal democratic" republics we have right now.

At least a king believes he has a duty to God to protect his people/land and if you get a bad one who doesn't you only have to depose 1 guy. when a republic goes bad there basically is no fixing it without complete societal collapse.
 
yeah went back and clearly you aren't antifa. So my bad on that. Still, a massively bloated state taking control and coercing the populace? Feels pretty damn lefty to me
I appreciate you investigating me to make sure you have accurate information, though I'd like to note that there is no one "Fascist text" like there would be historically with Communism (Stalin/Pol Pot/Mao types) all reading Marx. Fascism historically would really be a rightist movement which usually comes to be in response to Communism. However, it's going to vary from country to country and head of state to head of state. Hitler isn't Mussolini, he's not Franco, and he's not Pinochet or Salazar. For example, Mussolini was syndicalist, though not socialist. Pinochet was explicitly capitalist.

The problem comes from people misunderstanding differences in political situations/development and utilization of far left and far right ideologies in different countries. "Right wing socialism" has very much been a thing historically (i.e. Hitler), though it would be pertinent to actually read up on these things and analyze/compare notes. Doesn't help when "Fascism" itself is a somewhat murky term given how far it got as an idea in different parts of the world (some movements got further than others given geopolitics in Europe vs. LatAm/Asia). I would refer anyone in this thread to read primary sources (political essays/memoirs) as well as biographies/histories (I recommend any of Stanley Payne's body of work).
 
I'm a bit late to say this but, the recent afd being labelled as right wing extremist, is the final confirmation that democracy a it exists now, is effectively a religion. Any threats to it are labelled as blasphemous, any criticism to it is heresy. Liberal democracy is not a political system anymore it is a the new religion to the godless.
 
lol, I've been openly rightist my entire time on this site. You must be new here. Imagine thinking people who speak highly of Franco/Mussolini would be lefties.

Point is even left-leaning types understand Fascism is right wing, only people who seemingly don't are lots of Americans who describe themselves as right wing.
It's very interesting, I think a lot of it comes down to the American view that a strong centralized authority is inherently left wing. Which you do see in communism and also leftist in the US regularly pushing for a stronger federal government. Where as the right usually pushes for more autonomy at the state level.

It doesn't help that the left has spent decades trying to tie a swastika decorated albatross around the rights neck. While dismissing or minimizing the atrocities of communism, or in the case of tankies outright defending it. That said I have seen a growing movement of right wing tankies taking the same attitude towards the various fascist government of the past.
 
It's very interesting, I think a lot of it comes down to the American view that a strong centralized authority is inherently left wing. Which you do see in communism and also leftist in the US regularly pushing for a stronger federal government. Where as the right usually pushes for more autonomy at the state level.

It doesn't help that the left has spent decades trying to tie a swastika decorated albatross around the rights neck. While dismissing or minimizing the atrocities of communism, or in the case of tankies outright defending it. That said I have seen a growing movement of right wing tankies taking the same attitude towards the various fascist government of the past.
I'll make a comparison where there was overlap in historical Communist/Fascist countries from the POV of your average American voter:

For Communism, would anybody agree that abolishing private property and religion is something an American right winger would want? Likewise, in the case of Fascism, would a left wing American be in favor of things such as eradication of anarchist and feminist movements as well as heavy promotion of tradition/social discipline?

Interestingly, though Fascist ideology and Communist ideology both spawn dictatorial governments, neither of them like each other. At all.
 
yeah went back and clearly you aren't antifa. So my bad on that. Still, a massively bloated state taking control and coercing the populace? Feels pretty damn lefty to me
It feels that way because you're American.
unironically, a theocratic monarchy would be better than the hopelessly corrupt "liberal democratic" republics we have right now.

At least a king believes he has a duty to God to protect his people/land and if you get a bad one who doesn't you only have to depose 1 guy. when a republic goes bad there basically is no fixing it without complete societal collapse.
"You only have to depose 1 guy" is, as history shows, a lot harder than it sounds. Theocratic monarchy just doesn't fit in todays age, there's too much information out there for one religion to take over sharia style.
 
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