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Who will be the next pope?

  • Tagle (67, Philippines)

    Votes: 29 5.7%
  • Parolin (70, Italy)

    Votes: 18 3.5%
  • Zuppi (69, Italy)

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Besungu (65, DR Congo)

    Votes: 28 5.5%
  • Erdo (72, Hungary)

    Votes: 17 3.3%
  • Ouellet (80, Canada)

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Turkson (76, Ghana)

    Votes: 9 1.8%
  • Burke (76, USA)

    Votes: 19 3.7%
  • Sarah (79, Guinea)

    Votes: 56 10.9%
  • Eijk (71, Netherlands)

    Votes: 5 1.0%
  • Scola (82, Italy)

    Votes: 5 1.0%
  • Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu (43, CWCVille)

    Votes: 319 62.2%

  • Total voters
    513
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Charles Maung Bo

Mid-seventies: ✅
Centrist with positive relations on the left and right: ✅
Good relations with Muslims and Buddhists: ✅
From Asia (main Catholic recruiting hub): ✅
Hates China: ✅✅✅✅✅

Pope Bo. Enjoy your Burmese Pope.
 
You know the Pope has been dead for quite some time now?



Why did he have to publicly die at 88? Numerology? Gematria?
 
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Charles Maung Bo

Mid-seventies: ✅
Centrist with positive relations on the left and right: ✅
Good relations with Muslims and Buddhists: ✅
From Asia (main Catholic recruiting hub): ✅
Hates China: ✅✅✅✅✅

Pope Bo. Enjoy your Burmese Pope.
Asia isn't the main hub, Africa is. If he was Filipino though, maybe he would have a chance. Anyway, he doesn't seem bad but I don't think he will be put forward as a compromise candidate. Probably Parolin would be the establishment compromise choice.
 
Burke will never make it but a man can pray.

Anyone who says Marx has a shot is a retard. The Germans are a laughing stock and Marx is far too radical.
Germany still brings more money to the vatican than america it still holds political power. But i'd say Marx wants to play puppet master in the shadows instead of being in the forefront.
 
Cardinal Eijk, Eijk, baby!
A popular Dutch comedy show did a parody song poking fun at cardinal Eijk (who is not very well liked in the Netherlands because of his conservative views).
In the song he says that they never pick the favorite and since he's not, he still has a chance of becoming pope and it would be a bigger Dutch success than the current PM, football teams and the Eurovision contestant. They also paint him as a dirty anti-LGBT creep who is obsessed with quoting the Bible on homos, sex and seed in your underpants.
 
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I'm not a catholic so it's not my place to judge, but I feel democracy shouldn't really have a role in this. Voting is a human judgement. If they truly have faith - and a cardinal should - why don't they just roll a die, or stand on a rooftop in the next storm holding metal rods. Let God indicate his Will.

Or if they want human input, just fight it out. The Old Testament is filled with tales of God lending strength to his favoured one. Go Samson on this - last standing is pope. It would be more... Biblical?
I mean if God can do whatever he wants, he can certainly control the votes of some old men.

And if he doesn't like the pick, he can just JPI them.
 
I've heard that multiple times, question is if those people have active military history or it's all theoretical.
Lots of people have theoretical military service but are highly trained for the theoretical scenario. So no, there hasn't been a situation where the Guard has actually had to take positions behind statues of Saints and start dumping mags. Its a fair criticism to be sure since its impossible to know just how a unit will perform until its actually being shot at. But at least in theory these dudes take their jobs very seriously, and they do go in suits with the Pope when he does foreign trips to work the same role the Secret Service does for US Presidents.
 
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Lots of people have theoretical military service but are highly trained for the theoretical scenario. So no, there hasn't been a situation where the Guard has actually had to take positions behind statues of Saints and start dumping mags. Its a fair criticism to be sure since its impossible to know just how a unit will perform until its actually being shot at. But at least in theory these dudes take their jobs very seriously, and they do go in suits with the Pope when he does foreign trips to work the same role the Secret Service does for US Presidents.
Having visited the Vatican myself, the Swiss Guard “going in suits” is actually more common than the cute uniforms of centuries past. Swiss Guard in very snazzy suits are stationed everywhere, watching/guiding tourists while also acting like private security. I have no proof of this next thing, but I’ve heard they sometimes go plainclothes too. The Swiss Guard doesn’t fuck around and, given the US Secret Service’s recent performance issues, Trump might consider hiring a few for himself.
 
I'm not a catholic so it's not my place to judge, but I feel democracy shouldn't really have a role in this. Voting is a human judgement. If they truly have faith - and a cardinal should - why don't they just roll a die, or stand on a rooftop in the next storm holding metal rods. Let God indicate his Will.

Or if they want human input, just fight it out. The Old Testament is filled with tales of God lending strength to his favoured one. Go Samson on this - last standing is pope. It would be more... Biblical?
Because God explicitly condemns divination.

The entire Old Testament is about how the Jews decided between following their priests and following ooga-booga pagan magic and they got obliterated for following the latter. Jesus specifically chose his disciples who became the Apostles. These apostles collectively decided the next leaders of the Church. Those leaders then chose the next leaders, and so on and so forth.

The divine decisions of God’s will flows through the people God chooses and blesses with divine wisdom, not some fucking dice.
 
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The divine decisions of God’s will flows through the people God chooses and blesses with divine wisdom, not some fucking dice.
"Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus was living among us, beginning from John’s baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection.” So they nominated two men: Joseph called Barsabbas (also known as Justus) and Matthias. Then they prayed, “Lord, you know everyone’s heart. Show us which of these two you have chosen to take over this apostolic ministry, which Judas left to go where he belongs.” Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles." - Acts 1:21-26
 
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"Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus was living among us, beginning from John’s baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection.” So they nominated two men: Joseph called Barsabbas (also known as Justus) and Matthias. Then they prayed, “Lord, you know everyone’s heart. Show us which of these two you have chosen to take over this apostolic ministry, which Judas left to go where he belongs.” Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles." - Acts 1:21-26
Yes, just ignore the whole beginning part where they did choose two people and couldn’t decide between the remaining two. But it’s important to keep in mind that this decision is before Pentecost, i.e. before the Holy Spirit had descended on the Apostles. Apostolic succession had not started yet.
 
Yes, just ignore the whole beginning part where they did choose two people and couldn’t decide between the remaining two. But it’s important to keep in mind that this decision is before Pentecost, i.e. before the Holy Spirit had descended on the Apostles. Apostolic succession had not started yet.
I'm not ignoring anything. I'm pointing out that you were a making a dichotomy where you didn't need to. Using chance to pick one out of a number of equally acceptable options is fine, and one could argue that the cardinals should all, in theory, be good options.
 
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I'm not ignoring anything. I'm pointing out that you were a making a dichotomy where you didn't need to. Using chance to pick one out of a number of equally acceptable options is fine, and one could argue that the cardinals should all, in theory, be good options.
The flawed dichotomy here is thinking that voting is not a reflection of God’s Will while luck is. Your example doesn’t support that dichotomy at all.
 
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