US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Cromwell]

None of those is even the most iconic one. Even the Wikipedia article only features Evan Vucci's photo, the one where one of the agents is looking directly at the camera:
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All of Doug Mills' photos featured in the Pulitzer are clearly inferior, AND saw far, far less exposure than the Vucci photo, yet he still won. Nobody interviewed Doug Mills about his photos, just Even Vucci. Something's fuckey. I wonder who he's friends with on the Pulitzer committee.

Evan Vucci works for the associated press. Doug Mills works for the New York Times. It doesn’t take much to figure out what happened here.

If it’s any consolation to Vucci, history won’t remember the photographs that some wankers on a committee gave some gay award to. They’ll remember the best one.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

None of those is even the most iconic one. Even the Wikipedia article only features Evan Vucci's photo, the one where one of the agents is looking directly at the camera:
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All of Doug Mills' photos featured in the Pulitzer are clearly inferior, AND saw far, far less exposure than the Vucci photo, yet he still won. Nobody interviewed Doug Mills about his photos, just Even Vucci. Something's fuckey. I wonder who he's friends with on the Pulitzer committee.

Again, it's consolation for not being able to catch drumpf's brain exploding

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Great example. Woketards love getting offended on people's behalf but never bother asking the alleged "victims" before they run off to tear something down. This is, of course, far more racist than whatever they're calling "racism." Not that they ever recognize or understand that.

As someone who has a bunch of natives for in-laws, I’ve never heard of one who doesn’t like the redskins logo and the land o lakes butter girl.

They do however tend not to like the Cleveland Indians indian because it reminds them of the Peter Pan thing



Also, Annie Get Your Gun is like the most offensive thing that ever happened, worse than the trail of tears

 

[Lian Xing]

Spoiler: Long sperg about science fiction bacteria

Wouldn't it be crazy of the bacteria that evolved in the garbage dump and the laboratory strains being developed in laboratories suddenly broke containment and started eating every damned bit of plastic in the world spontaneously. Like, you'd wake up in the morning and all your polyester clothes would be motheaten and falling apart. Then, you'd go to the kitchen to make your morning Cheerios, and spoiled milk would flood out of your refrigerator the minute you opened it in a wave, carrying random bits of leftovers with it, because the milk carton and disposable storage containers in there all got eaten. Then imagine what happened to your car out in the driveway. After that, imagine trying to call into work, with your cellphone half-eaten and all the insulation in the telephone and power lines eaten too. Then your house would collapse or catch on fire.

It's more likely than you think.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

I suppose I was naive about America because before Trump 2 I kind of just assumed that the judiciary was not allowed to micromanage the executive. Sure, the Supreme Court can rule on the constitutionality of executive behaviour but to have these federal courts BLOCK every second thing the president does?

We're probably going to find out in the next year or so. We're pretty close to a Constitutional crisis. It's also on the table in these court cases if the Executive Branch and the heads of agencies it appoints have any actual power to fire agency staff, redirect operations, choose how to spend budgets, or basically run them at all.

The stance of the anti-Trump lawfarists is that the agencies and their lower staff members are beholden only to Congress (if even that) and have their jobs for life. They are effectively trying to being the Deep State out of the shadows and make it an official 4th Branch of government, and reduce the Executive to a figurehead like the British King.

Wouldn't it be crazy of the bacteria that evolved in the garbage dump and the laboratory strains being developed in laboratories suddenly broke containment and started eating every damned bit of plastic in the world spontaneously. Like, you'd wake up in the morning and all your polyester clothes would be motheaten and falling apart. Then, you'd go to the kitchen to make your morning Cheerios, and spoiled milk would flood out of your refrigerator the minute you opened it in a wave, carrying random bits of leftovers with it, because the milk carton and disposable storage containers in there all got eaten. Then imagine what happened to your car out in the driveway. After that, imagine trying to call into work, with your cellphone half-eaten and all the insulation in the telephone and power lines eaten too. Then your house would collapse or catch on fire.

This is the plot of many old scifi books and very plausible. I always find it funny/scary when people touting these plastic eating microbes are like, "nah, everything will be fine, they'll just eat what we tell them and stop."

A couple off the top of my head are Mutant 59: The Plastic Eaters by Kit Pedler and Gerry Davis (of Doctor Who fame) and Ill Wind by Kevin Anderson. The latter has some great scenes of the US government trying to hold shit together by pulling old tech out of the Smithsonian.

 

[Puff]

It's more likely than you think.

Wriggling flagella wrote this post.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Spoiler: Long sperg about science fiction bacteria

Wouldn't it be crazy of the bacteria that evolved in the garbage dump and the laboratory strains being developed in laboratories suddenly broke containment and started eating every damned bit of plastic in the world spontaneously. Like, you'd wake up in the morning and all your polyester clothes would be motheaten and falling apart. Then, you'd go to the kitchen to make your morning Cheerios, and spoiled milk would flood out of your refrigerator the minute you opened it in a wave, carrying random bits of leftovers with it, because the milk carton and disposable storage containers in there all got eaten. Then imagine what happened to your car out in the driveway. After that, imagine trying to call into work, with your cellphone half-eaten and all the insulation in the telephone and power lines eaten too. Then your house would collapse or catch on fire.

The world would honestly look like pre ww2 at that rate, with everything made out of metal or wood. Very Dieselpunk. But I guess microplastics would be gone. I guess.

 

[The Last Stand]

More material for last stand

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/kamala-harris-makes-met-gala-debut-in-off-white/ar-AA1EdSMn

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Last stand of what? Being relevant? Looks like those grocery store cookies.

 

[The Nothingness]

The Minnesota mom is the latest litmus test for conservatives, especially with it happening not long after the fatal stabbing in Austin. You have the likes of Mark Dice who bring up how some white people are getting tired of blacks not being held accountable for what they do. And then you have ones like Steven Crowder who say, "Please don't call black people the n-word. We don't want a race war."

 

[Core Theorist]

The Minnesota mom is the latest litmus test for conservatives, especially with it happening not long after the fatal stabbing in Austin.

I just hope segregation becomes normalized again.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

As far as Alcatraz goes, the historical significance of a prison is minimal. Tear the whole thing down and build a new, high tech black hole there.

There are people that would want to be locked up in that place.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

The world would honestly look like pre ww2 at that rate, with everything made out of metal or wood. Very Dieselpunk. But I guess microplastics would be gone. I guess.

Dieselpunk? Whatever deviantart account pumped that out, their mom should’ve been abortionpunk

 

[majob]

The Minnesota mom is the latest litmus test for conservatives, especially with it happening not long after the fatal stabbing in Austin. You have the likes of Mark Dice who bring up how some white people are tired of blacks not being held accountable for what they do. And then you ones like Steven Crowder who say, "Please don't call black people the n-word, we don't want a race war."

The smart ones are treating it as a matter of free speech and the final pushback against cancel culture. The stupid ones are bringing race into it. I'm more than positive Trump and his team will ignore it completely if they can

 

[WelperHelper99]

Dieselpunk? Whatever deviantart account pumped that out, their mom should’ve been abortionpunk

It's WW1-WW2 shit. Lots of steel, oil, and grit. Different than steampunk which is all airships and brass and shit. Atompunk is the 50s nuclear shit; fallout basically

 

[SpergioLeonne]

It's WW1-WW2 shit. Lots of steel, oil, and grit. Different than steampunk which is all airships and brass and shit. Atompunk is the 50s nuclear shit; fallout basically

And so are there a lot of shitty bands in these settings that use like 3 5th chords per song in all of these? I think prior to the 70’s, you’d be executed for misrepresenting yourselves as musicians

 

[WelperHelper99]

And so are there a lot of shitty bands in these settings that use like 3 5th chords per song in all of these? I think prior to the 70’s, you’d be executed for misrepresenting yourselves as musicians

It's a artstyle, not music. Though Sabaton MIGHT qualify.

 

[The Ugly One]

"Woke right" is anybody who's right wing and doesn't care for Jews, niggers or feminism. So Ulysses S Grant, basically.

 

[Cromwell]

We're probably going to find out in the next year or so. We're pretty close to a Constitutional crisis. It's also on the table in these court cases if the Executive Branch and the heads of agencies it appoints have any actual power to fire agency staff, redirect operations, choose how to spend budgets, or basically run them at all.

The stance of the anti-Trump lawfarists is that the agencies and their lower staff members are beholden only to Congress (if even that) and have their jobs for life. They are effectively trying to being the Deep State out of the shadows and make it an official 4th Branch of government, and reduce the Executive to a figurehead like the British King.

This is so interesting because the role of the executive branch is a debate that never seems to go away in America. The Jeffersonian political tradition (and by extension the legacy of Andrew Jackson and the very existence of the party system stems from this debate). Hamilton’s plan to empower the executive could only be checked by congress, but congress could only mount effective opposition through unity, stemming from a party apparatus. At least this is what I understood from my coursework. Feel free to correct
Non-delegation (the doctrine that one branch of government can’t delegate its constitutional prerogative to another) was the gold standard of “separation of power” jurisprudence all the way until the new deal. The only reason why the Supreme Court stopped upholding this was because FDR threatened to stack the court.
In the absence of non-delegation you Americans find yourself with this horrible bureaucratic Frankenstein. The executive agencies have the lawmaking ability of congress, the enforcement authority of the office of the president and the ability to determine policy directions as if it were an elected popular body.

The biggest nightmare of all of this is precisely because of the delegation of power, the only way to check the bureaucracy is through a unity of all three branches and a lot of patience. You lose a mid term? You’re done. No chance of reforming the government. A court case doesn’t go your way at the SC? Done. If the president doesn’t prioritise shrinking the government? Done.

 

[autistic dog]

Again, it's consolation for not being able to catch drumpf's brain exploding

If you look closely you can actually see the bullet exploding the democrats chance of winning instead.

 

[John.Doe]

The only reason why the Supreme Court stopped upholding this was because FDR threatened to stack the court.

A good 70 to 90 percent of all modern problems can be traced back to the Commie Cripple.