In your opinion, does KiwiFarms have the potential to become a cultural superpower? - I.E. What Something Awful and 4Chan were in the 2000s, and what Tumblr and Twitter were in the 2010s

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With all the research on Internet culture I've been doing, it got me thinking about whether not KiwiFarms has the capacity to change the course of Internet culture as a whole, especially given how stagnant it has become. What I've taken aback by is the fact that it feels like not much, if it all, has changed since 2016. Rather, the Internet and its zeitgeist have been on a slow march of stagnation, with people losing their motivation to be creative over time.

Could KiwiFarms have the capacity to change any of that? And while they're at it, would they be able to change the course of other forms of culture, like TV, games, and movies, much like what Tumblr did in 2015?
 
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Not really, the only power it could have on people is in how they present themselves online.
A lot of lower case internet documentaries have relied on info they got here or with very notorious trolling communities, Podawful's cult being one of them. So in a way it can be changed in the sense that people get wise and stop posting all of their dirty laundry online, but any one that was here before the big web 2.0 myspace/facebook era already knew that. So best case scenario, we get an age of people more like the early days, not so willing to give out their personal info. At worst we get the era of IDs on the internet to get access to a community.
 
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I don’t think so, at the end of the day tumblr back then hinged on mainstream media and so did other popular sites. Kiwifarms does have very active off topic boards, but the core focus on lolcows is never gonna be pop culture in that sense.

People like “tea” accounts, drama and laughingstocks but lolcow culture is usually too weirdly eccentric and not engaging enough for most. Unless something makes them exit Snark reddits, twitter callouts or TikTok/youtube expose drama videos, they won’t wanna be here.

Additionally, a lot of the forum structure and rules aren’t very mainstream at the moment, although that COULD change in the future if more sites try a similar format (after all tumblr is one of the few sites that still functions with blogs)

I think it’s good that the farms function in the periphery. That puts it a step both above and behind other sites. 4chan had such a strong hold over internet culture specifically when it was less normie.
 
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no. all of those things were born in a time before it was common knowledge that you could make money on a website itself. until like 2010 or so the buisnessman's conception of the internet was as a component to an exsisting business model; as a marketplace in which customers would navigate to your website to purchase your goods. so forums and bourgeoning social media was largely ignored by monied interests. combine this general freedom from market hostility with the widespread proliferation of the internet that defined web 1.0 and you had a match made in heaven for these cultures to rapidly grow without interference from outside sources, more or less. there are exceptions such as stormfront doing a hostile takeover of the 4chan news board but i am unaware of other efforts like it on the other websites of discussion.

the conditions that allowed these websites to get as big as they were simply no longer exist. 4chan, tumblr, and something awful never once had to deal with being de-listed in their entire existence. this is part of the reason why 4chan splinter sites never take off like 4cahn did. 4chan explicitly started with lolishit, and there was never a time you couldnt find the place with google. the ladder has been kicked out or stolen. until google explodes there will never be another organic site as large as any one of the wild west social media sites. and even then it would be a hard fight to decondition normal niggers from going to the same 4 websites on their phone.

lastly would you even want that? odds are very high that a large influx of new users kills everything you like about a community.
 
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we shouldnt become the center stage

we should be the guys sitting in the back and taking notes

the fact that only our enemies know us, as we are not in the mainstream, is a positive, makes our operations significantly easier

ideally even they wouldnt know about us, but beggars can't be choosers

u guys did some amazing shit in the pursuit of knowledge, some of you could be professional private investigators if u wanted to
 
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Half this forum are overweight middle-aged woman gossipping about other fat women on the Internet and men. The other half is worried about VTubers and Covid/Trump/politics.

What cultural superpower?

This is like a house where the gamer boys are upstairs setting shit on fire and talking about shooting school tomorrow, while their mothers are gathered downstairs complaining about their husbands. That's Kiwifarms in a nutshell.
 
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Kiwifarms is already a cultural superpower. Tranny jannies online signal boost about how it's the boogeyman, reaching millions. When people think of Kiwifarms, they think of a website where the users openly conspire to kill women (TWAW or you lose your job, after all) and they can't be stopped legally because they're all pseudonymous with identities completely separated from the rest of their online personas, so they can't be named and shamed easily.
Kiwifarms also works perfectly for TPTB as a both a boogeyman and the biggest target for the cathedral's censorship. Dear Feeder's efforts in keeping the site up are also the final boss for those wanting to censor the Internet via the private sector, you can bet your ass governments are watching people trying to take him down as well as his responses to them and taking notes. If the Farms are taken down, for good, it's total censorship victory, the apparatus can then move on to target any other website hosting malinformation, etc.
All this because a fat Floridan feeder tells people "no".
 
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No.

1) Building a cult of personality is not the goal. Most well known users on Kiwifarms are well known for their threads, but you're still treated the same as everyone else. People will also rightfully call you out if it's clear you're on the forums to fulfill some kind of gay savior fantasy. Users are also anonymous and as a result cannot expand onto other platforms. When was the last time you saw users here move onto Twitter and ask others to follow them there too?

2) There's no porn. Literally that's it. You don't log onto Kiwifarms to jerk off, unlike Tumblr at it's height, and unlike 4Chan at it's height. Porn here is spoilered and laughed at, and Tumblr fell from grace solely because they banned porn. 4Chan is still kicking because it lets that and way more onto the site.
 
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2) There's no porn. Literally that's it. You don't log onto Kiwifarms to jerk off, unlike Tumblr at it's height, and unlike 4Chan at it's height. Porn here is spoilered and laughed at, and Tumblr fell from grace solely because they banned porn. 4Chan is still kicking because it lets that and way more onto the site.
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He doesn’t know.
 
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Farmer Jon said:
2) There's no porn. Literally that's it. You don't log onto Kiwifarms to jerk off, unlike Tumblr at it's height, and unlike 4Chan at it's height. Porn here is spoilered and laughed at, and Tumblr fell from grace solely because they banned porn. 4Chan is still kicking because it lets that and way more onto the site.
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You're underestimating the power of autism. Someone has definitely jerked off to a Kiwi Farms thread before.
 
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No. I think the form becoming mainstream would make us as a website have even more enemy's. Jersh is already cut off from major payment processors, and despite what people may believe we document lolcows of every political affiliation.
Imagine if politicians start hearing of this site? Everyone across the board would want it banned due to users on here constantly archiving and documenting information. Imagine the amount of countries that would start banning the site all together.

It's already happened with the UK and new Zealand. Are you familiar with what happened with the Christchurch mosque shooting at all? The republished Christchurch shooter's manifesto and live-stream video got null into a lot of shit.
We have have had a school shooter that has used this website. His name was William Atchison, that could definitely be used to get the site into even more shit. The feds even used the site as a source to investigate. Imagine people on platforms like tiktok, twitter and news outlets digging that up?
The drop kiwi farms campaign was a disaster and could've gotten us wiped off the net entirely. If we become fully mainstream that is going to Definitely get us sniped.

Even the most right wing "freedom fighter" of politicians in the U.S have called for some form internet censorship. Now it depends on the context of if it's justified (lolicon ban in texas) but the take it down act does have the potential be used against us and websites similar like lolcow.farm. As of April 2025, the U.S. government, specifically U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) under the Department of Homeland Security, has begun actively screening the social media accounts of immigrants, visa applicants, and foreign students for evidence of antisemitic activity. A lot of users on here despise kikes.

I know that this is technically only for immigrants but we also had a bill recently introduced but also shot down to combat antisemitism on the internet. It was called the "Antisemitism Awareness Act of 2025", Do you not think that something similar to that or the online kids safety act doesn't have the potential to fuck over the site? Rep. Mike Lawler, the person who purposed the bill, is a Republican representing New York.

The site a gossiping forum where a lot of the users have autism and will follow and document a person for years on end, as a hobby, could that not sour public opinion? Has that not already???
 
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