Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

An interesting review on a newer Russian Elcan analogue. Interesting that optics for riflemen are rare overall in the Russian military to this day. I remember even in the 2000s the M4 came with an aimpoint as standard when delivered to units replacing their M16A2s.

 
Same purpose as last time - Putin wants to use the whole Victory day 'ceasefire' to build up troop strength to make a push right after and said all the ceasefire bullshit in the hopes, as always, that Ukraine is at some breaking point where they too need to rest.

Now a place they supposedly had locked down just got blown back open and ALL that planning for any post-Victory Day operations are shot to hell because they have to mobilize BACK to Kursk. I have to wonder if this hadn't been a planned tactical retreat all along and Putin just got played for the fool, letting him 'reclaim' Kursk and then troops getting drawn back east, only for the Ukrainians to push right back into Kursk and make a fucking shitshow of Russian logistics and supply planning.

Which could eventually turn into forcing Putin to commit more forces purely for border control, depriving precious manpower to just standing on an imaginary line on a map.
You reckon Putin is now seething over this, possibly dilating?

The timing of this is not a coincidence, Ukrainians know significance of Russia's victory cult and Putin's reliance on it for propaganda purposes, they would never miss an opportunity to rain on his literal parade. I know I wouldn't, if I was them and had the means.
 
Interesting that optics for riflemen are rare overall in the Russian military to this day.
Good optics are expensive, close to about twice the cost of the rifle. When you consider the life expectancy of a Russian infantryman, why would you issue anything more expensive than it absolutely has to be? He doesn't even need to take someone with him to be a net win for the Motherland, not if one of his four or five comrades with him can do the job instead, so some shit-ass AK old enough to be his grandfather is all he needs.
 
Good optics are expensive, close to about twice the cost of the rifle. When you consider the life expectancy of a Russian infantryman, why would you issue anything more expensive than it absolutely has to be? He doesn't even need to take someone with him to be a net win for the Motherland, not if one of his four or five comrades with him can do the job instead, so some shit-ass AK old enough to be his grandfather is all he needs.
Good optics are expensive. I'd put Russian made optics on the same tier as holosun or some other poverty tier optic. Can a milserpg tell us if Russia is so thrifty they don't bother issuing out NBC gear or other things we know as standard such as weapon cleaning kits and compasses?
 
An interesting review on a newer Russian Elcan analogue. Interesting that optics for riflemen are rare overall in the Russian military to this day. I remember even in the 2000s the M4 came with an aimpoint as standard when delivered to units replacing their M16A2s.

Talking about optics, where are these things produced? From what I understand a lot of Russian industries are suffering massively from sanctions, because there are simply no factories producing certain parts nor any people within Russia with specialty in fixing them. I'm wondering how this has effected their arms industry.
 
You reckon Putin is now seething over this, possibly dilating?

The timing of this is not a coincidence, Ukrainians know significance of Russia's victory cult and Putin's reliance on it for propaganda purposes, they would never miss an opportunity to rain on his literal parade. I know I wouldn't, if I was them and had the means.
Without question.

Kind of a silly thing to hold a big victory celebration about pushing the Nazis out of Kursk...while the 'Nazis' are holding Kursk a second time in as many years.

Talking about optics, where are these things produced? From what I understand a lot of Russian industries are suffering massively from sanctions, because there are simply no factories producing certain parts nor any people within Russia with specialty in fixing them. I'm wondering how this has effected their arms industry.
Almost definitely China.
 
Good optics are expensive. I'd put Russian made optics on the same tier as holosun or some other poverty tier optic. Can a milserpg tell us if Russia is so thrifty they don't bother issuing out NBC gear or other things we know as standard such as weapon cleaning kits and compasses?
As to proper NBC gear, almost certainly since the risk of chemical warfare is about zero in modern war since that's a red line only Obama would refuse to do anything about once crossed, and we should all be familiar with those images out of the Chernobyl area early on. Where even cheap optics are concerned, I just looked at the Holosun website and their cheapest rifle optic is still almost two hundred bucks, or a little over 15,000 rubles at the moment. That's a pretty sizeable price increase over just a standard AK that's a few hundred bucks, tops.
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On top of that I'd point out that due to the sheer difficulties with optics, namely the insane precision necessary, the Russians have always struggled to make even passable ones. The USA can churn out ACOGs like crazy despite the price, but when you lack the same precision tooling and production capability as the West even bargain-bin crap with 2MoA dots isn't something you can produce at need, which means you're going to be forced to buy Holosuns at Aimpoint prices.

Of course, if they're stuck buying mass-produced Chinesium made using the finest reverse-engineered Cold War designs, well... not exactly cheap either, especially since the Chinese themselves have started cracking down on sanctions dodging.
 

White House caught off guard by Hegseth’s request to cancel weapons supply to Ukraine​

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth reportedly blocked military aid flights to Ukraine within days after Donald Trump entered office without the administration knowing.

An order from the U.S. military told freight airlines at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware and a U.S. base in Qatar to halt 11 flights loaded with artillery shells and other weapons bound for Ukraine, according to Reuters.

That verbal order reportedly came from Hegseth’s office, according to U.S. Transportation Command records reviewed by Reuters, sparking mass confusion across Washington, D.C. and in Kyiv, underscoring what officials and critics have warned is a Pentagon in disarray and driven by haphazard decision-making .



The pause in aid was previously reported, but Hegseth’s apparent direct role in making the call to halt the flights was not. The flights resumed several days later after then-national security adviser Mike Waltz intervened, according to Reuters.

Hegseth’s decision reportedly followed an Oval Office meeting on January 30, though Trump did not explicitly direct Hegseth to freeze any aid. A formal order halting aid that was authorized under Joe Biden’s administration went into effect roughly one month later, on March 4.

But the White House told Reuters that Hegseth was following Trump’s directive, despite the apparent chaos and confusion among top national security officials who had no idea why the flights were grounded, and who ordered them.

“Negotiating an end to the Russia-Ukraine War has been a complex and fluid situation,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told Reuters. “We are not going to detail every conversation among top administration officials throughout the process … The bottom line is the war is much closer to an end today than it was when President Trump took office.”

The pause in shipments also raised alarms in Ukraine, where officials had difficulties getting any answers from Trump administration officials through multiple channels, according to Reuters.


The administration is standing firm behind Hegseth following widespread calls for his resignation and reports suggesting that the White House was considering other candidates for the job.

Following a month of “total chaos” at the Pentagon, from mass firings to leaked Signal chats featuring top Trump administration officials discussing bombing campaigns in Yemen, “there are very likely more shoes to drop in short order,” according to John Ullyot, who resigned last month as a top Pentagon spokesperson.

The White House has denied reports suggesting that Hegseth could be replaced, but pressure from members of Congress and a firestorm of criticism have only accelerated since his appointment.

Hegseth, a former Fox News host and military veteran, has repeatedly blamed the press for any suggestion there’s disorder inside the Pentagon while casting allegations from his own top aides as the work of disgruntled former employees.

“What a big surprise that a bunch of… a few leakers get fired and suddenly a bunch of hit pieces come out from the same media that peddled the Russia hoax [and] won’t give back their Pulitzers — they got Pulitzers for a bunch of lies,” Hegseth said from outside the White House on April 21.

“This is what the media does,” he said. “They take anonymous sources from disgruntled former employees and then they try to slash and burn people and ruin their reputations.”
 
Oh please oh please UAF. Make the retards like Fico and other niggercattle at the very least shit themselves.


Ukraine drone attack shuts Moscow airports, says Russia​

I will confess, I hadn't even thought of that: even funnier than air raid sirens during the parade, fuck with the flights of visiting dignitaries by snarling air traffic.


An interesting review on a newer Russian Elcan analogue. Interesting that optics for riflemen are rare overall in the Russian military to this day. I remember even in the 2000s the M4 came with an aimpoint as standard when delivered to units replacing their M16A2s.



Good optics are expensive, close to about twice the cost of the rifle. When you consider the life expectancy of a Russian infantryman, why would you issue anything more expensive than it absolutely has to be? He doesn't even need to take someone with him to be a net win for the Motherland, not if one of his four or five comrades with him can do the job instead, so some shit-ass AK old enough to be his grandfather is all he needs.

Good optics are expensive. I'd put Russian made optics on the same tier as holosun or some other poverty tier optic. Can a milserpg tell us if Russia is so thrifty they don't bother issuing out NBC gear or other things we know as standard such as weapon cleaning kits and compasses?
tl;dr: From what I have heard, Russian military supply is all over the place but usually "absolute shit".
Remember Russia operates "push" logistics, not pull. "Our charts said this is what you need"



Talking about optics, where are these things produced? From what I understand a lot of Russian industries are suffering massively from sanctions, because there are simply no factories producing certain parts nor any people within Russia with specialty in fixing them. I'm wondering how this has effected their arms industry.
You don't even need to go that far. as @MG-34 said, Russia optics are 3rd world tier garbage at the best of times with Russian QC (that is, none) There is a reason they were working with the frogs at Thales to get as much shit through sanctions under "dual use".

HIMARS got FPV'd:
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Location of the strike: 48°28'45"N 37°31'42"E; 10 km away from Russian forces near Kostyantynivka.
Waiting for Ziggers to start dancing about having blown up a cargo truck as another 10 T-72s throw their turrets.
 
You don't even need to go that far. as @MG-34 said, Russia optics are 3rd world tier garbage at the best of times with Russian QC (that is, none) There is a reason they were working with the frogs at Thales to get as much shit through sanctions under "dual use".
Some years ago, I had the opportunity to play around with two Russian-made sights. Both were mounted on a friend's AR shooting .223.

The first one was a Kobra. I thought it looked cool but it was also kind of heavy/bulky. Shooting with it was fine. Changing the batteries requires unmounting the optic so you have re-zero it every time that happens. Also, the on/off switch broke.

The second was a Zenitco Vzor (I don't remember the exact model, might be the Vzor-1). The shape was weird, almost like someone took an Aimpoint T1 and stuck a small remote control on the side. I didn't run into any problems shooting with it. Price wise, it was around $500 at the time, so it made no sense to get one of these over an Aimpoint PRO or ACO.

Bonus. I also tried a Holosun ARO sight once. It was a budget optic, that itself was a rip-off of another budget optic (the Sig Romeo 5), housed in a tube that looked like an Aimpoint Micro T2. Performance-wise, I thought it was fine. It's dubious origins are peak Chinamen.

All of these were fine for a shooting range, but in an austere environment, I would never choose them over the old M68 CCO if given the choice. Too many idiosyncrasies with the Kobra, while the Vzor and Holosun don't have the track record that Aimpoints do.
 
Can a milserpg tell us if Russia is so thrifty they don't bother issuing out NBC gear or other things we know as standard such as weapon cleaning kits and compasses?
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Remember Russia operates "push" logistics, not pull. "Our charts said this is what you need" regardless of if that's what you need. What gets pushed, and how much, is a combination of what's available and expected consumption rates and how important your unit is (that is, "how connected your command is"). It is expected that Quartermasters make up for any shortages with a combination of horsetrading and smekalka.

Supply is pushed to Division, and there is some central help to get it to battalions, but from Regiment on down, distribution is on the units.
That is: It is up to commanders to grift as much as they can for their own pockets and bribes without too many people noticing.

So your supply situation depends on what unit you are in, how well connected your command staff is, your quartermaster's barter skill, and how expensive the COs' mistresses are. In an important unit with a good quarter master and commanders who only grift-to-live, you might have reasonable levels of supply. If you are from an unimportant national guard unit with a drunk retarded for a supply officer and maintaining a lavish apartment in Moscow for a Gucci-addicted whore, you are going to have rusted out AKs and issued worn out boots.

Its very likely there is NBC gear issued to units, but its almost certainly old and not in sufficient quantiteis, and its also very likely sitting in Battalion HQ stores until such time as CO believes its prudent to distribute.
 
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This Telegram channel has posted a video of an MLRS they say is the Nork M1991 being operated by Russia. Let's not forget that the "second most powerful military in the world" is buying both men and materiel from a country that can barely keep the lights on at night to fight their war against their much smaller neighbor, and that is pretty funny. The chimpish emperor has no clothes.
 
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This Telegram channel has posted a video of an MLRS they stay is the Nork M1991 being operated by Russia. Let's not forget that the "second most powerful military in the world" is buying both men and materiel from a country that can barely keep the lights on at night to fight their war against their much smaller neighbor, and that is pretty funny. The chimpish emperor has no clothes.
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In case anyone wonders why this thread is so poorly moderated:
I think the only mod working on this thread is Useful Mistake.
There's broadly two styles of moderation:
Many detailed rules:
This has the advantage that standards for moderators are low, since they just need to compare the letter of the rule to the behaviour. The downside that it leads to shitposters staying just within the boundaries of the letter of the rule while violating its spirit, and rule lawyering when they get swept, endlessly occupying mods in arguments. A huge pain in the ass for everyone involved.

Few and vague rules:
This has the advantage that mods can sweep bad faith actors and dipshits as they see them. As a result, miscreants are reigned in quickly and effectively with (comparatively) little moderation effort. The downside is that it requires reasonably experienced moderators with good judgment.

Kiwifarms uses the second system and if you read a thread that is actively used by an interested mod, you can see them quickly and efficiently sort out bad behaviour, leading to enjoyable on-topic discussion.

The issue with Useful Mistake:

Facts:
1) Useful Mistake is rabidly pro-Russian.
Useful Mistake:
- is an active poster in the pro-Russia thread
- consistently posts pro-Russia and anti-Ukraine things
- knowingly misrepresented the content of neutral articles to give them an anti-Ukrainian slant
- used a Z-PFP for a while
- after being called out for posting "Ukraine bad" content in the pro-Ukraine thread, he performative posted a single "Russia bad" thing
2) Useful_Mistake claims to not be pro-Russian.
3) Useful Mistake makes moderation decisions based on pro-Russian views that are contrary to the facts.
4) Useful Mistake uses a radically different approach to moderation in regards to this thread compared to several other threads he moderates (specifically, he is VERY proactive against off-topic posting and low quality posting elsewhere).
5) Useful Mistake argues in bad faith, and dodges answering the question why he uses such an extremely different approach to moderation in this thread.
I had a conversation with him in the Talk to Staff forum in which he claimed to believe that pro-Russian propaganda slop is factual and thus not subject to sweeping, resulting in an inability to remove pro-Russian nonsense unless it's posted by a known member of the other thread.
In case you were not aware, the only things you are not allowed to post here are:
- celebrating Ukrainian deaths
- saying Russia is great
- saying NATO is bad (MAGAsisters on thin ice).
You can post all kinds of factually wrong propaganda slop that doesn't fall into these categories.
You can also post about any topic you like, there is no "off-topic" rule applying to this thread.

My conclusions:
1) Useful_ Mistake is duplicitous.
2) He lies about being pro-Russian.
3) He knows that his pro-Russian views affect his moderation decisions.
4) He does the bare minimum to avoid tainting his image as a good janny, while deliberately and maliciously permitting behaviour that degrades the quality of the thread, contrary to his stated and elsewhere acted on approach to moderation.
 
Zelenskkkyyy quite sensibly decided unilateral truces are dumb and is droning Moskau in response, you love to read it. Mashallah some changs get blasted in the process. Can't wait to hear how this is somehow a war crime;
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In case anyone wonders why this thread is so poorly moderated:
Bro all you gotta is put them on ignore, is it really that hard? If you don't like, you don't have to see, just look away, it's not real, you pissing and shitting vinegar about opinions you don't like achieves nothing.
I'm not gonna deny that zigger mod is zigger mod but for all his ziggerishness he has the good nature to keep a light touch, which I appreciate and believe we all benefit from, if you wanna seethe about it, take it to a debate thread and we can all throw e-poop at each other like the NATOid monkeys we are.
 
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