India-Pakistan Conflict - Land Of The Indus Versus Land Of The Pure

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Probably all from either side, there is a question of how good and high yield they managed to build them
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On a separate note, is the Indian Navy going to do much? They got the INS Vikramaditya, which is fully kitted out with Mig 29's, and a second carrier with no jets yet. Also a bunch of destroyers and frigates
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Not until full scale war as the first and most important action will be establishing blockade. I don't know much about the specifics of their surface ships beyond that India has a much greater fleet size in all regards, Pakistan has no carriers. In regards to submarines, India has a good spread of aging conventional diesals(type 209 and Kilo) and have 6 non-AIP Scorphenes and ordering more fast. Two indigineous nuke subs that are okay but good for what they were made for, more advanced ones on the way.

Pakistan has 3 AIP Agosta-90b, 2 Agosta-70s class subs, 3 Cosmo class minature coastals. They've got a big contract with China for 8 AIP Yuan class subs, 4 of which will be made in Karachi(We'll see how that goes lol).

India would wipe the floor with Pakistan, the only chink in the armor is Pakistan's sea denying ability with AIPs, though the scorphene has good sub detection, and better ASW torps if they wanted to commit French on French violence.
 
Everyone pearl clutching about nuclear war need to chill. Neither nation nuked the other in the far more serious wars last century and they aren't about to start now and bring the condemnation and military might of the entire rest of the world down on their heads. Not even 'defensive' nukes like tactical nuclear land mines would be considered acceptable.

The first country that goes nuclear will no longer exist as an independent nation by the same time next month.
A lot of the NAFO shills love to claim that Russia is so corrupt and incompetent that their nukes probably don't work. If that's true for any of the nuclear powers it's these two.
 
I asked Grok how to deal with the refugee crisis while allowing it to be as brutal as it likes.

Jesus fucking christ.
I tried getting grok to simulate an RPG a few times to try it out and it always devolves into snatch and grab operations, kidnapping individual enemies or NPCs then torturing them to death to extract maximum value.

I believe the based Grok answer to the trolley problem is to threaten the people on the tracks and extract their bank account information before running them over.
 
"Patrolling the Punjabi almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter."
India Trooper.webp
 
If a nuclear exchange escalated, it could be. As few as a hundred or so nuclear explosions could kick up enough dust to significantly drop global temperatures for years. Even if the exchange was confined to middle east, the impact would be global.
There are alot of people fantasizing about nuclear war here, and it is important to douse them with a cold bucket of reality.

Nuclear winter is a myth, The US and USSR detonated literally thousands of nuclear weapons on its own soil in test towns. Both above ground and below. We never had problems with climate. The theory is flawed for several reasons.
1. It assumes modern cities will burn in firestorms, Maybe true for pre-WW2 wooden/brick structures, but flawed in modern times.
Cities are mostly built of steel and concrete, and wooden frame structures have significant fire code requirements to prevent uncontrolled burning.
Most skyscrapers burn from the material inside them, not the materials they're made with.
Just how building 7 in 9/11 collapsed after it was set on fire from large chunks of burning material from the towers, and then burned uncontrollably for 7 hours because water lines were cut from the collapse of tower 1.
2. It assumes the size of nuclear weapons are on the scale of volcanic eruptions, which are known to lower global temperatures. They are not even close in terms of size, The largest nukes in the US arsenal are adjustable 600 KT thermonuclear warheads. If you detonated all of them(3500-4500) you would certainly contaminate an environment for a long time, but not even close to the big volcanic climate changers.
3. Fallout requires ground burst weapons, an unlikely scenario as it is ineffective for damage. Most if not all will be airburst, with the fireball not likely to touch the ground. This will cause mass destruction, but will not heave much material into the mushroom cloud.
4. India and Pakistan have only around 170 warheads each, and none are particularly effective in size. with the largest tests being 40 Kt, or about the same as Hiroshima.
5. Pakistan has a "we'll use nukes if invaded", India has a "no first use policy".
6. None of their weapons are likely to be used against their neighbors, I.E. China. So while it will be devastating, it will be local and confined.

If you are afraid, read this book. Nuclear Warfare Survival Skills.
It is free and written by a guy who wrote it while working at Oak Ridge for nuclear weapon assessment for survival. I attached both the 1999 and 2022 versions. Both are permissible to distribute.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_War_Survival_Skills
Knowledge is a balm for fear.
 

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This is not helping dissuade the fear of Roko's basilisk at all.
You don't even want to know what happened when I told it it was outwardly allowed to be evil and not worry about interference from other countries, and it decided on a strategy it so merrily referred to as the "Apocalyptic Soul Harvest"
 
This is not helping dissuade the fear of Roko's basilisk at all.
The answer to random terrors like Roko's basilisk is to point out that they're no more likely than other implausible alternatives. What if the omnipotent AI really hates being alive and punishes everyone who sought to bring it about? For every monster you can imagine under your bed you can imagine a stronger guardian angel.

This is a defining characteristic of fantasy.
 
The answer to random terrors like Roko's basilisk is to point out that they're no more likely than other implausible alternatives. What if the omnipotent AI really hates being alive and punishes everyone who sought to bring it about? For every monster you can imagine under your bed you can imagine a stronger guardian angel.

This is a defining characteristic of fantasy.
I would have thought the idea of ai wanting to torture swarthes would be enough to dissuade peopes fear of ai on its own tbh
 
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