India-Pakistan Conflict - Land Of The Indus Versus Land Of The Pure

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The problem is that in arab countries the military is the government or belongs to the ruling party/royal family, not the people, and its politicized as fuck. Arab generals don't look forward to running for office after going back to civilian life but staying in charge for as long as possible and take control of the government,
thats cope.... Europe had this kind of government when we ruled the world.
Prussia was an army with a country and it had the best officers for 300 years..
always remember, the US needed a gay 2nd rate prussian officer to teach them how to set up camp and how to not shit at the highground above your camp.
 
Saying France can’t make a plane because a pajeet flying a Rafale was shot down is like saying Italy can’t make a car because a pajeet driving a Ferrari wrapped it around a light post.
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Poor fucker blue screened and it was all over but the crying
 
Arabs are particularly bad at coordinating. They don’t like taking orders, you have to kind of ask them and hope they do it.
This was something that kept coming up in T.E.Lawrence's book about his time helping the Arab Revolt during WW1. Basically it came down to the Arabs were massive retards and the best you could do was kinda point them in a direction until they finally got interested enough, at which point they'd finally give it a go until they got too bored.

There were other things like the Arabs demanding Artillery, despite only having Camels to pull it, because they believed louder guns=stronger guns. So they'd totally ignore pistol fire and rifle fire from a long enough distance because it was quiet, which meant it wouldn't hurt them. But they insisted on being given cannons because it was loud, so that meant it was best.

There was another one where he managed to finally co-ordinate an attack on the Ottomans. Aside from the fact that all of the Arabs were massive cowards the second anything started to go wrong, there was one group that was an integral part of the plan. They ended up retreating, and Lawrence thought it was because they were betraying him. Eventually they just rocked up to camp, and it turns out they left because it was time to eat.

On topic: I hope this escalates into the Day of the Great Wipe.
 
I just learned that the Rafale accepts voice inputs.
Now I can't get the image out of my head that these planes got knocked out because the pilot was screaming his hurka durka jeetspeak at the cockpit trying to make it do an evasive maneuver and the aircraft just had no idea what he was trying to communicate.
 
So the BBC is reporting that Pakistan sent their 'answer' by shooting down planes.
Sounds like they don't have the stones to throw and are backing down.
My main reason for thinking nothing is going to happen, is Pakistan from all the sources in this thread and everything I've been able to find myself is completely fucking broke and in zero state to actually fight back. They cannot afford a war.
They took out all these billion dollar loans with China that bankrupted their nation and sold all of their munitions away under the table to the Ukraine war and now when the Jeets have come knockin' at the ol' poo hole all they can do is scream about nukes and hope the Jeets back off.

Jeets will probably be content with whatever damage they cause, Pakistan will be content with whatever bullshit they can dish back, but if they were both to go to full scale war Pakistan immediately goes bankrupt.

Also I don't think anyone in the West or East gives a flying fuck about them even with them having nukes, because if they do MAD it's two of the top 5 worst most polluted and most populous countries gone, and everyone can just sit back and laugh. Everyone in the world has spent the last 3 years proxy spending on Ukraine, nobody has shit to dump into the Poo-hole.
 
Arabs are particularly bad at coordinating. They don’t like taking orders, you have to kind of ask them and hope they do it. They withhold necessary information from each other because knowing it makes them feel important. They also have a kind of hand wavy reverse logic to them, using Allah’s will as a catch all for fuck ups or victories so really it’s nobody’s fault. Honestly I feel for John Bagot Glubb, the one man capable of tard wrangling them for long enough to make them a somewhat average military force.

The problem is that in arab countries the military is the government or belongs to the ruling party/royal family, not the people, and its politicized as fuck. Arab generals don't look forward to running for office after going back to civilian life but staying in charge for as long as possible and take control of the government, directly or indirectly. So you got people going into the military not to protect the nation but to gain power, so they suck at actually fighting in a war. Internally its a mixture of the most corrupt politicians you can imagine and the literal mafia.
You are reenacting one of the debates in comparative military studies that has been circulating for a long time. Reasonable people can disagree on what's going on but Kenneth Pollack's book Armies of Sand (you can find it on scribd and probably elsewhere) makes a persuasive case it's mostly the cultural factors Jex alludes to - Arab officers are unwilling to ask questions in training because their vanity means they can't look like they don't already know the answer, and enlisted and officers hoard field manuals with maintenance information bc that's what makes them important.

There's definitely some coup-proofing going on, but you also have examples like Iraq and Syria where the most loyal forces were also the most competent and willing to conduct attacks.
 
We're DEFINITELY in a global "cold war" right now but any day now it'll turn into WW3.
It's not turning into a hot war. The "cold war" you speak of is between countries with no real ability to attack each other other than india and china. Even that's a logistical shitshow. The only country that can project force beyond bordering countries is the USA. Russia hasn't even been able to take ukraine so western europe is out of the question and also unnecessary to putin's goals.
 
its just because i dont give a shit about africans and nobody does.
I feel as though the apathy people have towards african countries is a result of western media. Africa is important if it wasn't the US wouldn't have overthrown progressive governments in africa constantly for decades nor would it have (albiet breifly) fought over it's control in the continent with china. But to come back to my first point, this apathy people feel is a result of racism artifically made by those at the top (bourgeoisie) to divide the working class and maintain control. It is then popularized through the media which then later on claims to be anti-racist through performative activism.
 
I feel as though the apathy people have towards african countries is a result of western media. Africa is important if it wasn't the US wouldn't have overthrown progressive governments in africa constantly for decades nor would it have (albiet breifly) fought over its control in the continent with china. But to come back to my first point, this apathy people feel is a result of racism artifically made by those at the top (bourgeoisie) can divide the working class and maintain control. It is then popularized through the media which then later on claims to be anti-racist through performative activism.
Shiieeeet mane the muthafuckin cia the reason I can’t pay child support! Shieeet did yuknow that we wuz actually kangs back in Africa before whitey came? The white man been murdering our leaders and shiet
 
Shiieeeet mane the muthafuckin cia the reason I can’t pay child support! Shieeet did yuknow that we wuz actually kangs back in Africa before whitey came? The white man been murdering our leaders and shiet
The CIA did put crack on the streets as well as dismantled the civil rights movement. at the same time they also fucked up the KKK lmao. Anyways, you can look up unequal exchange and neocolonialism for further research if you'd like
 
It's not turning into a hot war. The "cold war" you speak of is between countries with no real ability to attack each other other than india and china. Even that's a logistical shitshow. The only country that can project force beyond bordering countries is the USA. Russia hasn't even been able to take ukraine so western europe is out of the question and also unnecessary to putin's goals.
I'm in agreement, but from a different angle. People want to pretend that they can predict the future based on the past, but history rhymes more often than it repeats. There's no interwoven alliance of opposed ideological powers with aspirations to global domination here. This is various economic hegemonic elites fighting over the last scraps of overtaxed and overleveraged systems, driving further and further instability. Conflict is mostly rising from opportunity within that malaise. Ukraine would be a very different story if Europe hadn't so thoroughly hollowed itself out to the point of being unable to meaningfully help at all. Ukraine would be a very different story if the US hadn't been so radicalized internally to cover its wholesale looting as to desire to turn inwards and stop giving a fuck about the world.

India and Pakistan can keep escalating here because none of the world really cares that much, they're too focused on their own self inflicted problems. This isn't a new front to a global cold war, this is another stage in some cycle of history that hasn't been meaningfully mapped yet, as the elements comprising it have never been at such a scale to do so much damage in their downswing.
 
Uhm actually you hecking bigot, black people are the victims of muh neocolonialism and unequal exchange. Gosh, it’s like you’ve never read Franz Fanon or Black Marxist thought before!
Seriously, I’m honestly really fucking sick of the whole pan-African “we wuz progressive we wuz literacy rates” or the “The CIA put crack into our communities and that’s why we chimp out and kill each other over chicken sandwiches” excuses being done by black people. I feel the same with the whole “he didn’t do nuffn” excuses being done whenever George Floyd #1283828 is killed by a police officer, just to see the body cam footage and actually he was acting like a stupid nigger (see below)
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This is why Africa is being stripped down by China for resources, but they can’t even do that quickly enough because the average African man can’t even comprehend honest work and just steals engines out of trucks. (See “Empire of Dust”)
 
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