India-Pakistan Conflict - Land Of The Indus Versus Land Of The Pure

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Molag Bal said:
The Sikhs once had a similar 'holiest of sites' to how the muslims treat Mecca, until they decided to use it as a headquarter for a nationwide rebellion/attempted coup.
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You’re referring to the Sikh city of Amritsar, and Operation Blue Star, and your breakdown of the incident is… uncharitable.
 
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Molag Bal said:
It wouldn't be the first time. The Sikhs once had a similar 'holiest of sites' to how the muslims treat Mecca, until they decided to use it as a headquarter for a nationwide rebellion/attempted coup. The (female) prime minister went there with armed men and sacked the place. She killed absolutely everyone and burned it the fuck down.
The sikhs are whining about it to this very day.
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Why is my brahmin detector going off? Everyone in the west recognizes that sikhs are an order of magnitude better people than the rest of that wretched place.
 
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dame dudi jench said:
Why is my brahmin detector going off? Everyone in the west recognizes that sikhs are an order of magnitude better people than the rest of that wretched place.
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Canadian maybe? I've seen a trend in internet commentary that American Sikhs are less awful than average street shitters, but Canadian Sikhs are the absolute bottom of the barrel.
 
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Lol no. Even the F-105 Thunderchief, a plane that was technically classed as a fighter-bomber despite being originally designed for the nuclear strike role managed a positive K-D ratio against the Vietnamese, 27.5 kills to 17 losses. The F-4 Phantom went 147 to 40 against Vietnamese MiGs. A Phantom pilot was roughly 10x more likely to get shot down by SPAA on a low-level bombing run than he was in a dogfight, but even then they managed a little over 350, which sounds like a lot until you realize just how many ground attack missions they flew.
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US sources over-claim Vietnamese shootdowns and vice versa. According to Russian researchers the ratio is closer to 1:1 with a Vietnamese advantage early and an ever stronger US advantage later. American mainstream sources do not question the over reported kills and do not compare them with Vietnamese actually inventory stocks. American researchers now accept a ratio of 2:1 in favour of the US.

Considering that the Vietnamese used ambush tactics of direct radar guided interception from patches of Jungle the US had no radar cover over Americans over-reported these losses as losses to Air to Ground missiles too.

Also you're probably talking about kills of any kind. Including before the Vietnamese even had effective Mig 21 cover which is like comparing apples and oranges. Mig 19's lost to US fighters, obviously since they were Korea War vintage. If the Vietnamese score kills against unarmed EW/Rec/Helicopters due to US failure to safeguard these assets then these were probably added to Vietnamese sources so count that as you may.
 
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