TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

[Random Internet Person]

Stephenie Meyer also attempted to get a second wind out of Twilight by genderswapping the characters. It was called Life and Death and it went nowhere. It’s really interesting how she killed off her own franchise by proving the haydurs right that she caught lightning in a bottle.

Don't forget Midnight Sun, which is just Twilight from Edward's POV.

 

[grapeshark77]

This showed up on my Twitter and made me think of Lindsay. Her former classmate has had the number one movie in the country for two weeks (original, not based on IP) and Tom Cruise tweeted about it. Meanwhile she did Youtube videos, wrote three failed novels, and now makes more videos behind a paywall that even her fans don't know exist.

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

This showed up on my Twitter and made me think of Lindsay. Her former classmate has had the number one movie in the country for two weeks (original, not based on IP) and Tom Cruise tweeted about it. Meanwhile she did Youtube videos, wrote three failed novels, and now makes more videos behind a paywall that even her fans don't know exist.

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If he ever wins an Oscar, I pray to God, someone films her that night. Because in her predictable drunken state of that night she just might let that Tennessee girl out and let that N Word Fly.

 

[Eventide]

I apologize for the self-promotion, but my summary of his 300k debt reveal video actually ended up getting featured on the frontpage, but is hard to find now because of all the traffic temporarily through the thread at the time.

There's the actual 300k Quartering YT video link a few posts above mine.

I believe my summary got one fact wrong, in that I do believe now that the last 80k capital purchase he made to put him over the top was some sort of K-cup filler machine itself, not a box packaging machine, so that he could fill K-cup orders internally without having to rely on third party suppliers and distributors.

Thanks! Your featured post actually was what I was referencing in my comment, but I couldn't find it

Stephenie Meyer also attempted to get a second wind out of Twilight by genderswapping the characters. It was called Life and Death and it went nowhere. It’s really interesting how she killed off her own franchise by proving the haydurs right that she caught lightning in a bottle.

Wait, how tf did that work? Was female Edward (idk, Edwina?) a femcell? Was male Bella (Bello?) a 16 year old straight teenage boy, turning down female Jacob (Jakoby? ifykyk) propositioning him?

*sighs, goes to order it off Amazon out of morbid curiosity...*

If he ever wins an Oscar, I pray to God, someone films her that night. Because in her predictable drunken state of that night she just might let that Tennessee girl out and let that N Word Fly.

*pushes neat pile of casino chips onto table*

I'd confidentially bet that Lindsay has already called him the N-word.

Also, Sinners is getting Oscar buzz. It's very possible Coogler might win an Oscar next year.

 

[Travoltron]

I'm sure deep down Lindsay thinks Coogler is a DEI hire enjoying the success that she deserves. But she'd never say it out loud.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Stephenie Meyer also attempted to get a second wind out of Twilight by genderswapping the characters. It was called Life and Death and it went nowhere. It’s really interesting how she killed off her own franchise by proving the haydurs right that she caught lightning in a bottle.

I'm surprised she never did another sequel to continue the story. Like the story of their kid going to high school and living her own life as a half vampire, then falling for a human boy. Pretty sure the kid was a girl but could be wrong.

Or a spin off starring one of the other vampires.

 

[Acoustic Virgin]

The bright red lipstick she likes to wear combined with her pale complexion and all the makeup she cakes on makes her look like a clown.

 

[Henri Barbusse]

I'm surprised she never did another sequel to continue the story. Like the story of their kid going to high school and living her own life as a half vampire, then falling for a human boy. Pretty sure the kid was a girl but could be wrong.

Or a spin off starring one of the other vampires.

Bella's baby fell in love with the werewolf boy who was initially attracted to Bella, but it was revealed he was actually in love with that one egg that would become Bella's kid. And everyone kind of accepted that Bella's psychic vampire baby decided to date a teenage boy while she herself was less than one year old. Breaking Dawn was a pretty crazy book.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Bella's baby fell in love with the werewolf boy who was initially attracted to Bella, but it was revealed he was actually in love with that one egg that would become Bella's kid. And everyone kind of accepted that Bella's psychic vampire baby decided to date a teenage boy while she herself was less than one year old. Breaking Dawn was a pretty crazy book.

Oh yeah, imprinting. Which was said to be a form of pedophilia. Which was later tried to be explained to be Jacob dedicating his life to being the kid's de facto bodyguard/security detail.

Also, no discussion of Breaking Dawn is complete without bringing up Spoony's legendary vlog.

He did two of them BTW.

 

[Eventide]

The bright red lipstick she likes to wear combined with her pale complexion and all the makeup she cakes on makes her look like a clown.

Earlier in this thread, someone theorized Lindsay's utter inability to apply makeup properly is due to her being a theatre kid, and theatre makeup is often caked on heavily so it's visible from the stage.

On the topic of Twilight, I'm halfway through the "Life and Death" Twilight spinoff. Female Edward (Edythe - yes, spelled in a stylish trailer park way) is indeed a femcell. & male Bella (Beau) is indeed an emo teenage boy bitching about how annoying it is that hot chicks are fighting to get in his pants. Also, there's weird grammar/usage errors/awkward phrasing that make the book feel unedited/fanfiction-y. Although it's still infinitely more readable than Lindsay's slop.

 

[Random Internet Person]

On the topic of Twilight, I'm halfway through the "Life and Death" Twilight spinoff. Female Edward (Edythe - yes, spelled in a stylish trailer park way) is indeed a femcell. & male Bella (Beau) is indeed an emo teenage boy bitching about how annoying it is that hot chicks are fighting to get in his pants. Also, there's weird grammar/usage errors/awkward phrasing that make the book feel unedited/fanfiction-y. Although it's still infinitely more readable than Lindsay's slop.

Meyer really thought she had something, didn’t she?

 

[The Hardest R]

I’m really surprised Stephenie Meyer hasn’t tried to release another attempt at capturing lightning in a bottle again. It’s been 20 years since the original Twilight and as we see with Lindsay, critics have finally started to come around on Twilight. Mostly because of how much worse things have become since Twilight, but still.

 

[Boston Brand]

I’m really surprised Stephenie Meyer hasn’t tried to release another attempt at capturing lightning in a bottle again. It’s been 20 years since the original Twilight and as we see with Lindsay, critics have finally started to come around on Twilight. Mostly because of how much worse things have become since Twilight, but still.

I assure you, critics have not. Hack third wave feminists like Lindsay have because now the party line is anything written by a woman is good and critique is sexist. Or in Lindsay's case, the realization she isn't a better writer than even that very low bar.

Meyer HAS tried to capture that lightning again, repeadly. All of her post-Twilight books are thin reskins of Twilight (swap vampires for aliens, swapped vampires for spies) and even the Twilight tie-ins mostly failed.

By far the most depressing thing about modern fantasy is Twilight and Harry Potter proved massively influential. Thus the entire Romantasy genre where 40-year-old women buy an entire series about dragonf***ing.

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

I assure you, critics have not. Hack third wave feminists like Lindsay have because now the party line is anything written by a woman is good and critique is sexist. Or in Lindsay's case, the realization she isn't a better writer than even that very low bar.

Meyer HAS tried to capture that lightning again, repeadly. All of her post-Twilight books are thin reskins of Twilight (swap vampires for aliens, swapped vampires for spies) and even the Twilight tie-ins mostly failed.

By far the most depressing thing about modern fantasy is Twilight and Harry Potter proved massively influential. Thus the entire Romantasy genre where 40-year-old women buy an entire series about dragonf***ing.

To be fair to Harry Potter it does seem to have legs with new generations reading the books where Twilight seems like a series that captured one generation and everyone since sees what crap it really was to begin with.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

To be fair to Harry Potter it does seem to have legs with new generations reading the books where Twilight seems like a series that captured one generation and everyone since sees what crap it really was to begin with.

Harry Potter is pretty timeless, especially since Rowling made it so that you couldn't use modern tech at Hogwarts, thereby not tying it to one specific time period the way it might have been had Ron been playing with a Gameboy color in some scenes. Also, the fantasy of getting away from the drab, mundane world to learn the ability to do amazing feats is one a lot of people have.

I never read Twilight, or watched the movies, but from the outside looking in it seems like a product of its time.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

I'm surprised she never did another sequel to continue the story. Like the story of their kid going to high school and living her own life as a half vampire, then falling for a human boy. Pretty sure the kid was a girl but could be wrong.

Or a spin off starring one of the other vampires.

It's a sure sign of an unskilled writer when they hit on a great idea but don't recognize it. Rosalie's backstory is that she was the most gang-raped and murdered on her wedding day then raised as a vampire to go on a Kill Bill style revenge quest, in the 20s. That would make for a great novel that you could expand adapt into a solid action movie.

 

[Random Internet Person]

It's a sure sign of an unskilled writer when they hit on a great idea but don't recognize it. Rosalie's backstory is that she was the most gang-raped and murdered on her wedding day then raised as a vampire to go on a Kill Bill style revenge quest, in the 20s. That would make for a great novel that you could expand adapt into a solid action movie.

I have to wonder if Meyer ever got feedback about wanting more focus on a certain side character, even if she ignored it. I’m willing to bet Lindsay didn’t even get that.

 

[Eventide]

I have to wonder if Meyer ever got feedback about wanting more focus on a certain side character, even if she ignored it. I’m willing to bet Lindsay didn’t even get that.

You mean editorial feedback, or fan feedback?

As I've said before, Lindsay got fan feedback (on both Tumblr and Goodreads) praising the "evil" Jewish CIA officer character Sol for being pragmatic, badass and cool (as opposed to being the conservative strawman badguy Lindsay intended for him to be). Lindsay took his character's popularity as a sign to *checks notes* remind her readers in book 3 that Jews like Sol had prior knowledge of 9/11, but intentionally didn't warn the goy for the evulz/so the US will go bomb Muslims in the Middle East

& if Lindsay received any editorial feedback related to characters, she definitely ignored it since she bragged about ignoring her editor's suggestions.

Edit:

Also, my dad is reading Lindsay's books (he was intrigued by how much I hated them, and is a scifi fan), so I'll ask him what he thinks of the series when he is done.

 

[Michael Bluth]

Harry Potter is pretty timeless, especially since Rowling made it so that you couldn't use modern tech at Hogwarts, thereby not tying it to one specific time period the way it might have been had Ron been playing with a Gameboy color in some scenes. Also, the fantasy of getting away from the drab, mundane world to learn the ability to do amazing feats is one a lot of people have.

i got into HP a little later, and this is so correct, lol.

I thought it did take place in "modern" (late 90's-00) times at first, and not the early 90's. Haven't read/re-read the books in a while but I vaguely remember they might have mentioned playstation once.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

i got into HP a little later, and this is so correct, lol.

I thought it did take place in "modern" (late 90's-00) times at first, and not the early 90's. Haven't read/re-read the books in a while but I vaguely remember they might have mentioned playstation once.

There was. Rowling has this weird thing where rather than start the books when they were published, she has them start when she first came up with the idea. Like her detective books, the first one was published in 2013, but was set in 2009 or so when she first came up with the concept. Harry Potter was first published in 1997, but was set in 91 because that's when the idea for the book came to her. Though the Strike novels kind of work because she can work in real world events with the benefit of hindsight and later reporting that explains what's going on. Lindsay set her book in 2008 because she didn't want to have to make too many changes to her manuscript she wrote back then.

But yeah, she does mention Playstation in Goblet of Fire, which was supposed to be 94-95 school year. I think she was just trying to be hip. Or maybe that's what her kids were playing with.