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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Give it time, there is only so much nonsense that people will tolerate.
If it doesn't affect most people or inspire genuine moral outrage, there's no drive to riot. As much as I like this site, most people would just say "use another one then?" or "why does it matter?" because the further implications of the bill don't feel all that widespread. I can access every other website on the internet perfectly fine except this one, and many 'normies', there's been no impact on their personal internet usage (those same normies still got incensed enough for Southport, this just isn't in the same ballpark for them).

Like Bluray vs HD-DVD though, I wonder if porn will decide the winner between Pro-Online Freedom vs Anti-Online Freedom.
Worst case scenario: More people learn and use VPNs or TOR.
Best case scenario: Enough people complain that Labour will take the easy W and repeal the law for "free speech" reasons (also makes them look better to America).

>implying has dropped another text wall
For if you get lost. :feels:
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The site suddenly autoconverted the image to webp. If you thumbnail it like Dear Feeder wants, you can't see it.
 
'There will be riots in the country soon'. They say on a forum requiring a VPN to post on due to the laws enacted by their previous governing party and enforced by the currently governing party.
There have already been riots. It's stupid not to expect more, given everything happening.

We have to use a VPN to access this site because Null chose to block UK ip addresses, presumably to make a point. OFCOM has literally no power over him or his site and can't enforce any fines against him.
 
We're not as performative or as loud as the French but everyone has a breaking point.

Read some of the stories from the riots and revolts we had.
Thr breaking point that mattered was around 2010 or so when the coalition could have genuinely undone the then recent labour changes and invested in growth to compensate for the aging population's increasing need for social services.

Easier to hire a million commonwealth migrants, the NHS has recruiting agents overseas. Because that's better than training British citizens for some reason.
 
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I think Anglosphere natives specifically put up with a hell of a lot more tyranny than anyone else in the West.
That's the British "stiff upper lip ol' chap" coming to bite us in the arse. We will put up with far more than anyone else but all that does is keep the frustration bottled up until it reaches a fever pitch and then it's mayhem.

France, for example, riots at the drop of a hat and it's done next to nothing for them except train the best riot police in the world(!) while when our moment comes it will take everyone by surprise and before they have a chance to react we've gone and conquered the world again and when they ask the new redcoats why we did it we'll simply reply with;

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for him.

Joking aside don't take the lack of civil disobedience as a sign of British weakness. British anger shows itself in a very different way than the continentals or the Americans.

How do you know Caesar is truly angry? when he's calm.
 
Sounds like Labour are trying to out-flank Reform (live). They've just announced plans to reduce low skill work visas by "up to" 50,000 over the coming year, as well as "ramping up standards" for student visas, and have said that visas for healthcare workers from abroad need to end.

Details seem sparse. It seems good at first glance, but it's obvious they're just going to massage the numbers, ignore the real problem of uncontrolled migration, and hope it's enough to tamp down the nation's smouldering resentment before it bursts back into flame.
 
Sounds like Labour are trying to out-flank Reform (live). They've just announced plans to reduce low skill work visas by "up to" 50,000 over the coming year, as well as "ramping up standards" for student visas, and have said that visas for healthcare workers from abroad need to end.

Details seem sparse. It seems good at first glance, but it's obvious they're just going to massage the numbers, ignore the real problem of uncontrolled migration, and hope it's enough to tamp down the nation's smouldering resentment before it bursts back into flame.
Smacks of desperation, the rebels in the party will demand greater flexibility or else.
 
Sounds like Labour are trying to out-flank Reform (live). They've just announced plans to reduce low skill work visas by "up to" 50,000 over the coming year, as well as "ramping up standards" for student visas, and have said that visas for healthcare workers from abroad need to end.

Details seem sparse. It seems good at first glance, but it's obvious they're just going to massage the numbers, ignore the real problem of uncontrolled migration, and hope it's enough to tamp down the nation's smouldering resentment before it bursts back into flame.
Making more room for the Pajeets
 
That's the British "stiff upper lip ol' chap" coming to bite us in the arse. We will put up with far more than anyone else but all that does is keep the frustration bottled up until it reaches a fever pitch and then it's mayhem.

France, for example, riots at the drop of a hat and it's done next to nothing for them except train the best riot police in the world(!) while when our moment comes it will take everyone by surprise and before they have a chance to react we've gone and conquered the world again and when they ask the new redcoats why we did it we'll simply reply with;

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for him.

Joking aside don't take the lack of civil disobedience as a sign of British weakness. British anger shows itself in a very different way than the continentals or the Americans.

How do you know Caesar is truly angry? when he's calm.
This reminds me of one of Jim Telfer's famous speeches to the British & Irish Lions squad in South Africa in 1997:

"When an animal is wounded it returns in frenzy.

It doesn’t think. It fights for its very existence.

The lion waits, and at the right point, it goes for the jugular.

And the life disappears."


This is what we must do - we've wounded Labour badly in the recent votes, they are angry and will fight back. We wait until the right moment and then we go for the jugular - then it's game over, there's no coming back from that for them.

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Which also puts them at loggerheads with the EU as they too are demanding more student places.

What's it going to be, shitting in the streets or students who can at least poo in the loo?
 
Based on everyone's support for Brexit, it seems people would prefer a horde of jeets than Romanians and Poles.
The idea of Brexit was 0 foreigners. If you would have told us the vote was really between choosing do we want Eastern euros trash or niggers and jeets then we would have probably stayed if we knew what we were actually voting for.
 
Sounds like Labour are trying to out-flank Reform (live). They've just announced plans to reduce low skill work visas by "up to" 50,000 over the coming year, as well as "ramping up standards" for student visas, and have said that visas for healthcare workers from abroad need to end.

Details seem sparse. It seems good at first glance, but it's obvious they're just going to massage the numbers, ignore the real problem of uncontrolled migration, and hope it's enough to tamp down the nation's smouldering resentment before it bursts back into flame.
The thing that gets me is the specific wording. '50k fewer' from the total figure of work visas from last year is still around 200k (rounded up).
There were 241,719 visas granted to main applicants in all work categories in the year ending September 2024, 28% fewer than the previous year, but 76% higher than 2019.
It's a very small portion in the overall figure of 700k+ net a year. Almost 90k are from asylum seekers (which includes boat-crossers), another 90k are family visas. They raised the income threshold for family visas not that long ago, but it didn't apply to people who already met the requirement prior to the rule change.

Funny thing is about Labour doing this now is that they're actually just recycling plans scrapped by the Tories, apparently. (Can't be overstated how trying to cater to business/corporate interests helped bring about that party's downfall.)
Skilled migrants will need degrees to come to UK
Skilled foreign workers will be required to have a degree to get a job in the UK under new laws to reduce net migration.

Sir Keir Starmer is proposing to return the threshold for skilled foreign workers to graduate level after that was scrapped by Boris Johnson and replaced with a points-based immigration system requiring only the equivalent of an A-level and based on salaries.

Under the new laws, to be announced on Monday, employers will still be allowed to recruit lower-skilled workers using the points-based system – but only if they are in critical sectors such as IT, construction and engineering. These areas are deemed by the Government to be suffering shortages that are damaging the economy.

Employers will only be allowed to hire overseas workers on a temporary, time-limited basis, and will have to demonstrate to a new Government body that they are training British workers through apprenticeships and other schemes to plug the skills gaps.

Writing for The Telegraph, Yvette Cooper, the Home Secretary, said the new system would be underpinned by “five core principals”.

“First, migration must come down so the system is properly managed and controlled,” she said. “Second, the immigration system must be linked to skills and training requirements here in the UK, so that no industry is allowed to rely on immigration to fill its skills shortages.

“Third, the system must be fair and effective, with clearer rules agreed by Parliament in areas like respect for family life, to prevent confusion or perverse outcomes.

“Fourth, the rules must be respected and enforced – from our crackdown on illegal working to the deportation of foreign criminals. Finally, the system must support integration and community cohesion.

“These changes are essential to end the chaos left by the Tories in the immigration system, and to regain control.”
The reforms are part of the Prime Minister’s attempts to combat the rise of Reform UK, which inflicted big losses on Labour in this month’s local elections. This was partly blamed on a failure to tackle immigration.
Labour ministers will accuse the Tories of presiding over an influx of lower skilled workers that pushed up net migration to a record 906,000 in the year ending June 2023.

Figures published on Sunday have shown that the proportion of skilled worker visas below graduate level increased from 10 per cent in 2021 to around 50 per cent in 2024.
Labour will not, however, set a target on how far it will bring down net migration. Forecasts by the Office for Budget Responsibility project that it would settle at 340,000, well above pre-Brexit levels, without further significant action.
 
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