AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

[Creepypasta Mario]

I fed this comment to Suno so it can be enjoyed the way it was meant to be.
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[linchan]

Why do people get so hung up on whether a post was written by AI or not? I mean, seriously—if I want to say "2 + 2 = 4" and I use some fancy robot ghost to write “two plus two equals four” for me, what’s the problem?

Because when I want to rage bait someone with my blatant misinformation I want to make sure the recipient is an actual Indian I can waste their time, instead of a bot controlled by an Indian.

 

[The Secret Sauce]

I saw a youtube video the other week where an internet cartoonist was bitching because AI has caused a huge drop in commissions. I tried to comment something really petty and vindictive to rub salt in the wound, and Youtube's AI janny swept it and banned me from commenting for 3 days. Irony aside, how do the bots expect to win hearts and minds while silencing their own advocates? Not sure whose side I'm on anymore

 

[Hypercop]

The other day I was on 4chan, and a guy switched to using chatgpt responses in the middle of the argument for a lol. When I caught on I wasn't even mad, because I realized most people online are already so braindead that the AI isn't really a downgrade.

 

[linchan]

The other day I was on 4chan, and a guy switched to using chatgpt responses in the middle of the argument for a lol. When I caught on I wasn't even mad, because I realized most people online are already so braindead that the AI isn't really a downgrade.

Fully automated retard war

 

[Joshua Connor Tomar]

I find it rather funny how visual artists are generally the most anti-AI and will get pissed if you dare to use AI in any shape or form, while music artists are unapologetically using it for cover art, merchandise, and music videos, even if they wouldn't even touch AI for music production. Are musicians just built different?

It's cuz there's only like 16 notes so all of music has already been written so the AI can't beat them too it.

 

[Elysian]

The emergence of AI art is fairly equivalent to the rise of electronic music. Where once you required instruments and musicians to create music, now most of music created uses a bank of synthesized sounds that match real sounds made by real people. And I might be too young, but I don't recall the controversy surrounding that.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

My current psychotic bitch boss uses ChatGPT to write everything from her emails to PowerPoint presentations, while screeching at us that the use of AI is a crime against humanity. (Her PA blabbed.)

I'm convinced that most, if not all, AI dissenters secretly use AI themselves. AI tools allows one to save so much time and effort (especially if you need to generate large volumes to make money or meet deadlines) that it is nearly impossible to resist the temptation to use at the very least ChatGPT.

 

[The Thinking Abacus]

My current psychotic bitch boss uses ChatGPT to write everything from her emails to PowerPoint presentations, while screeching at us that the use of AI is a crime against humanity. (Her PA blabbed.)

I'm convinced that most, if not all, AI dissenters secretly use AI themselves. AI tools allows one to save so much time and effort (especially if you need to generate large volumes to make money or meet deadlines) that it is nearly impossible to resist the temptation to use at the very least ChatGPT.

You work for a woman? My condolences.

 

[Loris Yeltsin]

My current psychotic bitch boss uses ChatGPT to write everything from her emails to PowerPoint presentations, while screeching at us that the use of AI is a crime against humanity. (Her PA blabbed.)

My former bosses did this too, but without the hypocritical virtue signalling. The problem there was that one of them didn't speak German very well so he lacked the ability to detect errors or inappropriate phrasings in the LLM outputs. I ended up having to fix this shit on a daily basis which is why my initial feeling towards LLMs was seething hatred.

I have come to realize that said seething hatred would have been much more appropriately aimed at immigrants who never bother to learn the language of the country they're occupying.

 

[behindyourightnow]

My current psychotic bitch boss uses ChatGPT to write everything from her emails to PowerPoint presentations, while screeching at us that the use of AI is a crime against humanity. (Her PA blabbed.)

I'm convinced that most, if not all, AI dissenters secretly use AI themselves. AI tools allows one to save so much time and effort (especially if you need to generate large volumes to make money or meet deadlines) that it is nearly impossible to resist the temptation to use at the very least ChatGPT.

There's probably a lot, but my own interactions have convinced me that there is at least a sizeable minority (maybe more) that genuinely won't touch it, ever.

I'm honestly developing a bit of a fascination with how out of touch a lot of the leftist crowd is when it comes to AI. Like it's not just that they oppose it, it's that they have no idea what they're opposing, because they won't go near it or even have a real argument with anyone who uses it.

They all ossified their opinions about AI back in like 2022 and refuse to add any more information, so most of them have genuinely no idea how good the models have become at some things. They're tight in their echo chamber and so they think an LLM is just a bot that lies to you in stilted language and nothing else.

https://archive.md/DjM7Y

Part of why it's fascinating is because they're the same people who spent 10+ years declaring we are progress, we are the youth, we are going to be on the right side of history, and now they're slowly morphing into your great-grandma scowling at you as you gently try to explain that it's possible to check tomorrow's weather on your phone now.

 

[Gamepads]

They all ossified their opinions about AI back in like 2022 and refuse to add any more information, so most of them have genuinely no idea how good the models have become at some things. They're tight in their echo chamber and so they think an LLM is just a bot that lies to you in stilted language and nothing else.

It took a while for the paranoid artists in the various places to actually start glazing/watermarking their pieces en masse too. I thought it was funny at first, but now it's really obnoxious in how extreme it can get. If I can tell from a 125 by 175 thumbnail, then your piece's gone to shit. And for what? "No AI training. No reposting." are the most recurring watermarks, but it's obviously bullshit on the latter.

In general, a lot of people are using "AI" as a synonym for something that's incompetently made, which is just setting themselves up for a massive blind spot down the road.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

Can the watermark act as an effective deterrence, though? It never deterred humans, who will just erase the watermark if they want to use it, whether the artist liked it or not.

 

[Gamepads]

As it's being done for most? No, it's inconsistently applied. It's much more of a deterrent for humans just by virtue of how obnoxiously they tend to be placed, which is pretty representative of their mindset as described before: It's outdated as fuck (Expecting it to somehow just get copypasted in generations, or the model is somehow polite), and is really more of an ego thing. Don't glaze/watermark your work? You're probably gonna get shat on by your peers.

The most vehemently against "AI" are those who didn't get into that position logically, so you shouldn't expect their actions to be logical either.

 

[Bagger 293]

free verse lets you breathe.
it lets the words feel, not just speak.
it’s not about rules or rhythm or rhyme, it’s about truth,
in all its messy, aching, beautiful forms.

because sometimes the things we need to say
can’t live inside neat little boxes.
they need space.
they need silence between the lines.
they need to spill.

and when we talk about something like communism
not the cold, rigid version they taught us to fear,
but the real one
the dream of shared hands and shared futures,
of no one being left behind,
of choosing people over profit
you can’t explain that in a spreadsheet.

you need poetry.
you need breath.
you need the trembling in someone’s voice
when they say, “i believe we can take care of each other.”

that’s not theory.
that’s soul.
and soul doesn’t always speak in paragraphs.
sometimes, it just needs a line and a pause,
and another line after that

not to convince you,
but to reach you.

because this isn’t just about ideas.
it’s about being human together.
and that…
that belongs in free verse.

Creative (or uncreative) use of line breaks is not what poetry is, and this post is not in verse. English orthography already comes with a number of signs for portraying speech patterns and deliberately confusing "poetry" and "using line breaks and white space as punctuation marks" is very dishonest.

https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/essays/mr.aspx

 

[Castoreum]

Peanut gallery chiming in. Probably preaching to choir.

Personally, I find it very easy to spot troglodytes using AI to communicate with humans. Their words are overcomplicated and flowery with no actual substance. Forget the Em Dash, retards are now inserting similes and metaphors, and vomiting up whole thesauruses while casting aside any notion of brevity. It's like reading the work of an author who is either trying to reach a word count quota and/or really likes the smell of his own farts.

There's a saying that goes like, "An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity." Now, I wouldn't say it takes a genius to admire simplicity, but why use many word when few do trick?

I also notice them being wowed at very trite things an LLM spouts back at them. It's like seeing a child completely mystified by a Ouija board. I’d call it sad, but I don’t pity the type who get fleeced by psychics. God will sort them out.

 

[Creepypasta Mario]

It took a while for the paranoid artists in the various places to actually start glazing/watermarking their pieces en masse too. I thought it was funny at first, but now it's really obnoxious in how extreme it can get. If I can tell from a 125 by 175 thumbnail, then your piece's gone to shit. And for what? "No AI training. No reposting." are the most recurring watermarks, but it's obviously bullshit on the latter.

Can the watermark act as an effective deterrence, though? It never deterred humans, who will just erase the watermark if they want to use it, whether the artist liked it or not.

As it's being done for most? No, it's inconsistently applied. It's much more of a deterrent for humans just by virtue of how obnoxiously they tend to be placed, which is pretty representative of their mindset as described before: It's outdated as fuck (Expecting it to somehow just get copypasted in generations, or the model is somehow polite), and is really more of an ego thing. Don't glaze/watermark your work? You're probably gonna get shat on by your peers.

Speaking on this topic as a digital artist myself (if you don't mind a bit of Powerleveling):

For my "good" art, I like to embed my signature in hard-to-make-out details that, ironically, stand out if you put an edited pic that tried to remove them side-by side with the original. Basically an advanced type of concealed signature. Depending on how you write your sig, you can get pretty creative with your covert placement, even on the main character, and it keeps the artist's presence known without disrupting the composition of the piece.

One of the more clever examples of me implementing this: I drew with a woman in a sparkly lounge singer dress (it wasn't Jessica Rabbit, I swear; but her outfit sparkled the same way as Jessica's dress); I hid my signature in the shine on one of her sleeves. Practically invisible, even if you try to look for it. But it is there.

(Sorry gents, no visual examples. You're stuck with my garbage shitpost art)

I see it the same way as adding those foils of authenticity that trading cards like to shove in the corner like Yu-Gi-Oh, only more discreet. Plus it makes it harder for someone to claim credit to your piece if they don't know where to look for it. It's like playing I Spy or Where's Waldo on hard mode.

I personally prefer that to watermarking an art piece, especially the awful corner-to-corner watermarking that modern autists use, since it's just too distracting to enjoy the finished work. If you're too worried your art will be scraped for genAI that you can't help but vandalize your own work just to make it unusable, you're probably not in the right hobby, let alone profession.

 

[linchan]

 

[The Thinking Abacus]

It took a while for the paranoid artists in the various places to actually start glazing/watermarking their pieces en masse too. I thought it was funny at first, but now it's really obnoxious in how extreme it can get. If I can tell from a 125 by 175 thumbnail, then your piece's gone to shit. And for what? "No AI training. No reposting." are the most recurring watermarks, but it's obviously bullshit on the latter.

In general, a lot of people are using "AI" as a synonym for something that's incompetently made, which is just setting themselves up for a massive blind spot down the road.

I love the "no AI training" watermarks because no one actually reads those. Scrapers don't OCR your art and look for that. It's meaningless.

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

There's a saying that goes like, "An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity." Now, I wouldn't say it takes a genius to admire simplicity, but why use many word when few do trick?

There's another saying that applies here.
"Computers went wrong when they started making them for niggers."