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Should be a wild four years.

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Qatar to Gift $400 Million Plane to President Trump:

🔸 According to ABC News, the Trump administration is set to accept a luxury Boeing 747-8 jumbo jet—valued at around $400 million—from the Qatari royal family.

🔸 The plane will serve as Air Force One for Trump until just before he leaves office, after which ownership will transfer to his presidential library foundation.

🔸 Sources say this may be the most valuable gift ever given to the U.S. by a foreign government.

🔸 Attorney General Pam Bondi and Trump’s White House lawyer David Warrington concluded the arrangement is legally permissible.

🔸 Bondi—who herself was a registered foreign agent for Qatar—provided the legal memo approving the deal.

🔸 The DOJ and White House determined the gift does not constitute bribery, since it isn’t tied to any official act.

🔸 Bondi also argued it doesn’t violate the Constitution’s ban on foreign gifts because it’s being given to the U.S. Air Force and, later, a nonprofit.

🔸 Neither the White House, DOJ, nor the Qatari embassy responded to ABC’s requests for comment.

🔸 Experts note the aircraft’s $400 million price tag doesn’t include the additional security and communications upgrades needed for presidential transport.

Uhh... I also think that Palestine is a state, despite lacking sovereignty for at least half a century. Can someone tell Qatar this?
 
actually i think a porn site is a porn site and a kiwifarms is a kiwifarms
So do I? But that's irrelevant when we're discussing keeping obscene materials away from children by locking any sites with obscene materials behind an ID verification wall.

All porn is obscene material, however not all obscene material is porn. Does that help?
 
actually i think a porn site is a porn site and a kiwifarms is a kiwifarms
You aren't a legislator. And we already have legislators gunning for us. Around the entire planet, not just America.

And we all know the government hates taking existing legislation and finding new and creative ways to apply it to things it doesn't like, right? Right?!?
 
So do I? But that's irrelevant when we're discussing keeping obscene materials away from children by locking any sites with obscene materials behind an ID verification wall.

All porn is obscene material, however not all obscene material is porn. Does that help?
i don't know what that has to do with ID verification on porn sites
 
Why are we arguing over whether porn is first amendment protected to begin with? It's not art and it's not speech, so the first amendment has fuck all to do with it, regardless of your opinion on porn.
 
that's a problem with the legislation not the idea
Everyone agrees that children shouldn't be looking at adult content. Computers and phones have existing parental controls to ensure that children can't easily look it up, everyone takes issue with childproofing the Internet to "protect the kids", we shouldn't be sharing the Internet with children at all. Their ability to access the Internet as a whole should be monitored to ensure this. Is it going to actually happen? No, it's unrealistic unless there are harsh restrictions placed on selling phones and PC parts like associating all purchases with your ID. Any laws that target websites that host adult content will require ID, Pornhub and the Kiwi Farms will be subject to this as both websites host adult content. Yes, only one hosts pornographic but both fall under adult content that minors should not look at.
 
Because it won't stay limited to porn sites, you fucking sperg.
Everyone agrees that children shouldn't be looking at adult content. Computers and phones have existing parental controls to ensure that children can't easily look it up, everyone takes issue with childproofing the Internet to "protect the kids", we shouldn't be sharing the Internet with children at all. Their ability to access the Internet as a whole should be monitored to ensure this. Is it going to actually happen? No, it's unrealistic unless there are harsh restrictions placed on selling phones and PC parts like associating all purchases with your ID. Any laws that target websites that host adult content will require ID, Pornhub and the Kiwi Farms will be subject to this as both websites host adult content. Yes, only one hosts pornographic but both fall under adult content that minors should not look at.
repeating myself but that's a problem with the legislation not the idea
 
Because it won't stay limited to porn sites, you fucking sperg.
I'm convinced at this point they're either being willfully ignorant for the lulz, or they are functionally retarded. They don't seem to be able to grasp that the current introduced legislation seeks to broaden and specifically define "obscene", which will almost certainly include any depiction of genitalia, regardless if it's for "discussion" or for "jerking off".
 
But you can view genitalia on Kiwifarms. That's obscene material. Would you appreciate kids seeing it? Why are you ok with kids seeing tranny stink ditches on KF?
Randomly popped into my head while skimming past the porn spergery:

We got knocked offline by a tranny maliciously posting illegal shit on a long dormant account and reporting it within minutes to the entity that could deplatform us.
 
I'm convinced at this point they're either being willfully ignorant for the lulz, or they are functionally retarded. They don't seem to be able to grasp that the current introduced legislation seeks to broaden and specifically define "obscene", which will almost certainly include any depiction of genitalia, regardless if it's for "discussion" or for "jerking off".
nigga i didn't even know there was introduced legislation for this shit i thought you guys were just talking about it
 
Why are we arguing over whether porn is first amendment protected to begin with? It's not art and it's not speech, so the first amendment has fuck all to do with it, regardless of your opinion on porn.
Gooners are mad. That's it. No complaints about needing federal ID to fly domestically, no acknowledgement that obscenity law doesn't apply to the nigger word, not a care for publicly traded companies debanking you for thinking trannies are a menace. That is not the free speech issue that generates tens of pages of argument.

No, sir. It's that gooners will have to prove they are 18 to porn sites.
 
I'm convinced at this point they're either being willfully ignorant for the lulz, or they are functionally retarded. They don't seem to be able to grasp that the current introduced legislation seeks to broaden and specifically define "obscene", which will almost certainly include any depiction of genitalia, regardless if it's for "discussion" or for "jerking off".
It's like talking to a 13 year old who just listened to his first Sam Harris podcast and thinks he has the entire world figured out.
Randomly popped into my head while skimming past the porn spergery:

We got knocked offline by a tranny maliciously posting illegal shit on a long dormant account and reporting it within minutes to the entity that could deplatform us.
This is a favorite tactic of leftists. During GamerGate they would weaponize CSAM by posting it themselves and then reporting it to try to get websites like 8chan taken down.
 
Because it's an encroachment on your right to privacy. What if this information got leaked, as information typically does? Do you really want people knowing, for example, that you look at scat porn?
Pornography isn't a right, dumbass. Don't use porn if you are afraid sites will use your data maliciously or get hacked. Easy solution.
 
I had to abandon libertarianism because Nick Rekieta is KF's new standard for what liberty looks like. Now that I'm a rootin' tootin' conservative again, I don't have a problem with the government requiring an ID to log into kiwi farms. I know it's not something free people should have to deal with, but there's just a lot of stuff here that I don't want my kid to see, and Josh makes more effort than most to make this website accessible to anyone, even providing instruction on how to circumvent government bans. We should probably just have the entire internet adopt the same rules as terrestrial radio. Anyone who curses, uses slurs, describes an obscene act, or pulls a prank on anyone else should be subject to hundreds of thousands in fines per incident from the FCC. Some people will say that's too much money but don't forget that Janet Jackson showed her nipple at the super bowl because she didn't care about the small fine. If the fine isn't high enough, rich people will just ignore it and continue to peddle smut and liberalism to our children.

90s conservatism was the best. We wouldn't be in this mess if you had just let us outlaw Harry Potter and Pokémon for promoting demonic idol worship.
 
Because it's an encroachment on your right to privacy. What if this information got leaked, as information typically does? Do you really want people knowing, for example, that you look at scat porn?
But I don't look at scat porn. *chirp* I don't understand why you're even asking that!
 
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