India-Pakistan Conflict - Land Of The Indus Versus Land Of The Pure

Suspicious Clothes said:
Can't we convince a high-placed jeet to blow everything and make the rest launch their nukes ? heh.
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The Man With No Name said:
Fox Girl Enjoyer said:
Hopefully this is the end of Wallstreet thinking India is going to be the next big thing. They've been an EMERGING MARKET for like 25 years now.
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its all relative. on one hand, india is one of the few post colonial nations that didnt collapse into civil war or coups, and instead are much better off than after independence. much dirtier, unlivable, worse than the developed world, but comparing basic stats from pre independence and now will put things into perspective how much worse it was before.

so, if you just ignore china, india will look like a success story of a post colonial highly diverse nation that managed to somehow exist and "progress" and exist for over 70 years. hundreds of millions pulled out of poverty, a successful space industry, etc.

once you account for china, that image quickly shatters. china developed 1000x faster. mostlybecause of a strong one party govt and not democratic ideals enforced on an illiterate, mostly poor population (that as a result will vote for caste and not basic cleanliness).

the curse of india is its diversity is its weakness. try enforcing something like chinese govt and itll definitely collapse. so its stuck with power divided between local tribal rulers and a central setup. itll always have high potential but never fully realise. always mediocre, dirty, emerging. comparing it with most countries with similar past makes it look a success story, comparing it with china makes it look trash.

WST guys promote india only because if you wisely invest you can make more than investing in a developed country, because of robust, higher than developed country growth
 
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Verloren said:
>claims china is on the verge of a deal
chinks: ignore him, state they're not talking and raise tariffs while he begs for them to call
>claims putin is on the verge of a ceasefire
putin: ignores him, watches him beg for a deal on twitter
>claims he beat the houthi's
houthis: tell everyone he lost and continue hitting israel (the reason america got involved in the first place)
>claims he negotiated a deal between india and pakistan
street shitters and cousin fuckers: ignore him lmfao

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the reactions are funny. site is filled with copium bros who still believe he actually cares. president of the FREE WORLD did a pump and dump meme coin scheme and got away with it. even his merchandise guitar was indian made, instead of american. proof that all you need is confidence to win in life
 
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74164978231 said:
Doesnt sound like much of a dog fight if all they did was fire missiles at each other from behind their respective borders.
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That's kind of what modern dogfights are. Instead of getting in close and perforating the other pilot you're fighting him from miles away long before your bare eyes can detect him. It's kind of sad in a sense since there are all sorts of stories in a very narrow history of warfare where fighter aces had a sort of special code of honor amongst themselves, even between enemy combatants. Nowadays you're playing rocket jockey with somebody on the other side of the horizon.
 
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DickMain said:
That's kind of what modern dogfights are. Instead of getting in close and perforating the other pilot you're fighting him from miles away long before your bare eyes can detect him. It's kind of sad in a sense since there are all sorts of stories in a very narrow history of warfare where fighter aces had a sort of special code of honor amongst themselves, even between enemy combatants. Nowadays you're playing rocket jockey with somebody on the other side of the horizon.
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I get where you’re coming from, we all like the whole Knight of the Sky deal: Stories about RAF pilots being invited to dinner by their Luftwaffe opponents.

(Who then arranging a Spitfire flying over the base, without getting bothered by AA, to drop off a pilots prosthetic leg after he got shot down. Yes that happened!)

But modern AA combat isn’t just pressing buttons. Don’t know if you’ve ever heard radio comms from the war in Ukraine, where pilots are chased by AA missiles, but it’s every bit as taxing and hard work as any kind of MG based dog fighting. Trying to shake a missile, performing maneuvers at 9G while remaining oriented and firing off counter measures is hard fucking work.

The drone warfare is making MGs viable once again btw.

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THEY NEEDED TO GOOGLE WHAT CEASEFIRE MEANS?!?

Lmao! Sounds like Pakistan won the iq-war.
 
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Fapcop said:
I get where you’re coming from, we all like the whole Knight of the Sky deal: Stories about RAF pilots being invited to dinner by their Luftwaffe opponents.

(Who then arranging a Spitfire flying over the base, without getting bothered by AA, to drop off a pilots prosthetic leg after he got shot down. Yes that happened!)

But modern AA combat isn’t just pressing buttons. Don’t know if you’ve ever heard radio comms from the war in Ukraine, where pilots are chased by AA missiles, but it’s every bit as taxing and hard work as any kind of MG based dog fighting. Trying to shake a missile, performing maneuvers at 9G while remaining oriented and firing off counter measures is hard fucking work.

The drone warfare is making MGs viable once again btw.
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Oh I'm certain it's hard, there's no doubt about it. I've seen plenty of test footage of pilots stress testing systems and knocking themselves the fuck out, it's just different now is all. It's a lot less romantic than it was in the early days of aerial combat.
 
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Some say nothing ever happens, but maybe someday we will see things happen.
 
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>india invades pakistan
>it goes nowhere since both sides have a garbage military
>pakistan gives money and equipment to every terrorist organization in India
>naxalite activity goes from killing construction workers to blowing up factories
either that or a nuclear war that levels the north side of india
 
MrJokerRager said:
Looks like Grok has replaced Wikipedia as well thanks to this war.

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Edit: wasnt the plan by to neocons and shitlibs to help India, to keep China down, not help its PR department and make it rich.

Outsourcing to India has been a long time disaster.

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Edit: now it does.

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India lost at the minimum a Rafale and either a Mig-29 or a Su-30 and probably a Mirage 2000.
No. 7 cat said:

Suchomimus on Youtube (downloaded file won't upload)

Notes that Pak air defense is largely based on the HQ9, a Chinese version of the S-300, which the narrator says 'sucks at its job' with any intercept a miracle.

It's all more of the same for now, just cross border rocketry and some air battles. All a bit tentative.
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Suchomimus is a NAFO-tard lite so his musings about how good a Chinese air defense system is can be safely discarded.

Note that the S-300 is a solid generation or generation and a half behind cutting edge and the fact that India has Mach 3-3.5 capable cruise missiles plus SCALP-EG and possibly better anti radiation missiles= a dead HQ-9.
Fuck It We'll Do It Live said:
Sounds like being on the offensive being the better option is a lesson from this short conflict; relying on Russian/Chinese AA isn't going to do the needful and redeem cruise missile strikes or Chinese jets. Turkey most likely regrets getting booted from the F-35 program over getting the S-400, especially if India did indeed ACK a battery.
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India uses S-400 and at best Pakistan hurt a radar for it.

Erdogan throwing a tantrum and leaving the F-35 program is such a Turkish thing to do.
 
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