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Pennsylvania (Woman) District Judge decided that her job is to apply the law, and therefore, Trump's deportations under the Alien Enemy Act are valid. She further ruled that she can't review his proclamations (just like SCOTUS said)
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Wow. Imagine applying the fucking law and leaving your own politics at the door. Unfathomably based. A Judge did something good.
 
Boeing needs to be chased out of the country for what they've done with Starship, the AF1, 737 Max, and SLS and more. They've beyond useless and I don't even want them on the F47 6th ben fighter anymore, even though the US does need to have more than a few good suppliers on tech/military, they just can't do it.
 
a reminder how the Saudi's treated Trump and biden.
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So Obama gained control of the DNC? Or is Rahm gonna do his own thing?
The Saudis love Trump as one of their own. He is the prince's friend. Truly. Honestly good for stability in the ME. I listened to his speech twice today. I hope that the countries there grow with us, but nor under us. As friends, not master and slave.
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he wants that damn plane
Fucking good. We give away SO MUCH military equipment FOR FREE because we have so much of it to small allied nations, that in a time of need, its nice that Qatar is like " yo we got a mint condition 747-8 that has 20 years or something left in her, want to use it as a token of good will?". Fuck man, it feels good, especially after looking at SO MANY military equipment lists that go "gifted from USA". Thank you for the Jet.

Our current Air Force One, which is 2 jets, the Boeing VC-25 were manufactured from 1986 to 1990. They are fucking ancient. It's only through maintenance diligence that they keep going.
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Boeing needs to be chased out of the country for what they've done with Starship, the AF1, 737 Max, and SLS and more. They've beyond useless and I don't even want them on the F47 6th ben fighter anymore, even though the US does need to have more than a few good suppliers on tech/military, they just can't do it.
they need to be nationalized ASAP, they are too important to fail and all they've done is fail
 
Boeing needs to be chased out of the country for what they've done with Starship, the AF1, 737 Max, and SLS and more. They've beyond useless and I don't even want them on the F47 6th ben fighter anymore, even though the US does need to have more than a few good suppliers on tech/military, they just can't do it.
Boeing needs to be made great again. They are American pride. Look up the 727. They didn't cut corners with that trijet. They SPENT money selling a better product and it paid off. The Macdonald Douglas merger crippled them. Brought in the penny pinchers. It wasn't even DEI, too early. It was corporate suits looking to shave off every last bit of quality control they could to extract more money from the company. It's why Douglas had to merge at all.
*A judge did nothing.

It is sad that a judge staying in their lane and doing their job is considered a noteworthy feat.
Sad, but unfortunately it must be noted.
 
Everyone should be. Middle Eastern stability appears to track not just with having a Sunni majority, but with how overwhelming the Sunni majority is. Palestinians are the main exception to this, but for reference the Shia majority countries are Iran, Iraq, and Bahrain. Yemen and Syria have smaller Sunni majorities, so of course they have civil wars
Whatever sect Oman is needs to be in charge. They're the only middle east place you never hear about getting in wars and shit.
 
American business titans greet Trump in Saudi Arabia
Politico (archive.ph)
By Irie Sentner
2025-05-13 20:26:00GMT
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President Donald Trump and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman pose for a photo at the King Abdulaziz International Conference Center in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, May 13, 2025. | Alex Brandon/AP full-size

When President Donald Trump, flanked by Arabian horses, entered the Saudi Arabian Royal Court for an opulent state visit on Tuesday, he was met by an entourage of American business leaders representing a strikingly high-profile cross-section of the economy.

Dozens of CEOs of the world’s largest banks, hedge funds, defense contractors, tech firms and energy companies flew thousands of miles to Riyadh, where they descended on a lavish lunch with the president and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Elon Musk was there, as was his restaurateur brother, Kimbal. So were the CEOs of Google, OpenAI, Nvidia, Uber, Blackrock, Blackstone and dozens of other moguls representing Fortune 500 companies or their own family offices.

It was an unusually large, and unusually VIP, cadre of guests for a presidential foreign trip — the latest instance in which the American elite, once reproachful of Trump, has swiftly moved to impress him.

“It is emblematic of both how foreign governments try to lobby this president because of his business interests in their countries, and how the private sector has bent the knee,” said Donald Sherman, executive director and chief counsel at the Citizens for Responsibility in Washington, a watchdog group that is suing the Trump administration.

The nearly three dozen business leaders were invited by the Saudi government, according to two White House officials and two other people close to the administration, all granted anonymity to discuss logistics, showing the extent to which a foreign government is trying to curry favor with the American president. Trump and his advisers have said expanding American business would be the primary goal of his first major foreign trip. And the kingdom, which has invested billions of dollars in Trump’s family businesses, was eager to help him make good on that vow.

“There’s no better place to make a future, or make a fortune, or do anything, frankly, than what we have in the United States of America under a certain President Donald J. Trump,” Trump said during an investment forum that served as the most high-profile visit of the day.

In Riyadh, the president signed an agreement with the Saudis to invest $600 billion in the United States and with U.S.-based companies, including a $142 billion pact to supply the kingdom weapons and other military equipment from over a dozen American defense firms.

“Investment increased by 22 percent in President Trump’s first quarter because business leaders around the world want to participate in the new Golden Age of America,” White House deputy press secretary Anna Kelly said in a statement to POLITICO. “The President was proud to celebrate the ever-growing partnership between the United States and Saudi Arabia and a Middle East built on commerce, not chaos.”

The guest list included representatives from several companies that donated millions of dollars to Trump’s record-breaking inaugural committee, including OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, both of whom gave $1 million personally and $1 million through their companies. Also in attendance was Patrick Soon-Shiong, the biotech billionaire and owner of the Los Angeles Times, who reportedly instructed the paper’s liberal editorial board not to make a presidential endorsement in the 2024 election. And Musk, a top White House adviser given broad powers to slash federal spending as his companies’ regulatory issues fall away, got to bring his brother as well as two “escorts,” including Antonio Gracias, a fellow billionaire and DOGE member now embedded in the Social Security Administration. A DOGE spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment.

Earlier this week, in response to questions about Trump’s business interests in the Middle Eastern countries where he is making the first multi-day foreign trip of his second term, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters it would be “ridiculous to suggest that President Trump is doing anything for his own benefit” and that “this White House holds ourselves to the highest of ethical standards.”

Later in the week, Trump said he plans to accept a jetliner, valued around $400 million, from the Qatari royal family for use as Air Force One that would be donated to his presidential library after the end of his term. He called it “a great gesture from Qatar” and suggested it would be “stupid” not to take it.

Many of the Wall Street heavyweights in attendance in Riyadh, including BlackRock founder Larry Fink and Blackstone Group’s Stephen Schwarzman, have counted on Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund as a client and investor for years. Riyadh has emerged as a major investment hub over the last decade and top financiers have been flocking to the region to raise investment capital and source new deals. Several CEOs in Riyadh for the summit had also been speakers at last year’s Future Investment Initiative conference, which is sponsored by a nonprofit that’s overseen by Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund.

“These are all people who do big business in [Saudi Arabia],” said a person who has worked with the Saudis, granted anonymity to discuss their business dealings. The business leaders “travel regularly to kiss [Bin Salman’s] ring,” the person added.

The Saudi embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

At least one invitee, LinkedIn co-founder and major Democratic donor Reid Hoffman, didn’t make the trip. The White House listed Hoffman as attending, but his chief of staff quickly went to social media to correct the record.

But other attendees appeared to have vested interests in an audience with the president.

One surprising participant was Miami Mayor Francis Suarez, who briefly ran for the Republican nomination for president and will be term-limited out of his job as mayor in November. He has expressed interest in becoming U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia, three people with ties to Miami politics told POLITICO. The people were granted anonymity to relay private conversations.

The job of Miami mayor is considered to be part time. Suarez also works as a lawyer for the firm Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, which has an office in Riyadh. As mayor, he helped bring the Saudi sovereign wealth fund’s Future Investment Initiative to Miami and spoke at the trade conference in February. Suarez spokesperson Ana Isabel Hume said the mayor’s public and private sector roles “together expand his reach and impact” and that expenses for the trip didn’t come from the city of Miami.

The White House did not directly answer a question about whether Suarez was in the mix for the job or who invited him to the luncheon in Riyadh.

The tech delegation in Riyadh leaned heavily toward AI companies, cloud providers and chipmakers — a sector of the industry that has come to see the Middle East as a rich source of both investment cash and customers.

The trip was accompanied by a flurry of business announcements, many tied to Saudi state-controlled investment funds and companies. Google, Oracle, Salesforce, AMD and Uber pledged $80 billion toward joint tech investments. Google and the Saudi sovereign wealth fund announced more details about a planned AI Hub aimed at accelerating AI adoption across key industries in the kingdom. American chipmaking giant Nvidia said it would build “AI factories of the future” in the kingdom. And a slate of companies, including Nvidia, Qualcomm, AMD and AWS announced strategic partnerships with the new Saudi AI firm Humain, backed by Bin Salman.

Kimberly Leonard, Felicia Schwartz, Christine Mui, Mohar Chatterjee, Sam Sutton, Dasha Burns, Jake Traylor and Ali Bianco contributed to this report.
LA Times owner maneuvers into Trump’s orbit with Middle East meeting
Politico (archive.ph)
By Will McCarthy
2025-05-13 18:34:00GMT
The billionaire owner of the Los Angeles Times has gotten closer – literally – to President Donald Trump after steadily shifting his newspaper to the right.

Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, a biotech entrepreneur who acquired his city’s ailing broadsheet in 2018, was spotted in conversation Tuesday with Trump as the president held court with major U.S. business executives during a visit to Saudi Arabia.

Soon-Shiong is a prominent figure in a deep-blue U.S. city but he posted a video of his encounter with Trump on social media and said he was honored to meet the president along with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the de facto leader of Saudi Arabia.

The doctor said he and bin Salman share a “common goal to cure cancer” and he praised the “wonderful” conference in which the kingdom corralled a cross-section of business leaders for the first major overseas trip of the second Trump administration.

At the event, Soon-Shiong stood in a private audience with the president and bin Salman, speaking animatedly to two of the most powerful men in the world.

The White House said Trump is “delivering on his promise to Make America Great Again by catalyzing investment” with the Saudi trip in a statement that made no mention of Soon-Shiong, who drew scorn in Los Angeles for directing the editorial board to stop making presidential endorsements ahead of the November election.

The entrepreneur was one of about a dozen wealthy American executives who attended the lunch in Riyadh, including Open AI chief executive Sam Altman and Elon Musk.

Soon-Shiong’s appearance with Trump on the first day of the president’s week-long trip to the Middle East highlights the sharp turn by the owner of one of the country’s largest newspaperswhose family had served as major donors to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign.

Since then, Soon-Shiong has moved ever closer to Trump, unsuccessfully angling for a place in his first administration, appearing in conservative media, and accusing his own newspaper of editorial bias and becoming an “echo chamber” for progressive politics.

That transition came to a public head last fall when Soon-Shiong stunned the Los Angeles Times editorial board after overruling its decision to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris. Several members of the board and newspaper staff have since departed.

“I said, ‘This is unacceptable.’ And as you can see, because it’s a left lean, they wrote terrible stories about President [Donald] Trump,” Soon-Shiong told Tucker Carlson in a March interview. “So my statement to them was, ‘You may have an opinion, but all of us should have opinions based on facts.’”

“I took a lot of heat because the editorial board resigned,” he said. “I can just say they were not happy.”

Soon-Shiong’s appearance came as he tried to attract more conservative readers to his newspaper. He also announced plans for an AI-powered “bias meter” to gauge the fairness of opinion articles.

Former employees, including Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Molly O’Toole, called Soon-Shiong’s audience with Trump and Saudi leaders “shameful,” noting that the paper had previously published stories on “modern slavery” in the country and the assasination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, which the CIA concluded had been directed by bin Salman.

The L.A. Times had no immediate comment on the visit.
 
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he wants that damn plane
This tweet from him changes how I feel about the plane entirely. I was good with him accepting it on behalf of the US Government from the beginning. I wasn't cool with him sending it to his Presidential Library afterwards, because I thought it was a waste of taxpayer money (retrofitting it to be an Airforce One will cost quite a bit).

Now that I know that it will remain as Airforce One until its replacement arrives some time in the 2030s, I'm cool with it. Qatar Airforce One will probably need major renovations and overhaul by then, we'll have a brand-new Airforce One ready to be delivered, so let's send Qatar Airforce One to the Trump Library and let them pay for the second set of renovations and overhaul. Sounds like a good plan.
 
Boeing needs to be chased out of the country for what they've done with Starship, the AF1, 737 Max, and SLS and more. They've beyond useless and I don't even want them on the F47 6th ben fighter anymore, even though the US does need to have more than a few good suppliers on tech/military, they just can't do it.
Legit, the moment they bought McDonnell-Douglas and became a defacto monopoly is when they went to shit. Pathetic really.

Honestly, maybe Trump should nudge Lockheed back into producing commercial jets, competition encourages growth.

So many industries where we either have monopolies or oligopolies.
 
Buttigieg, eyeing a presidential run, says ‘maybe’ Biden hurt Democrats
The Washington Post (archive.ph)
By Hannah Knowles
2025-05-14 02:10:28GMT
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Former transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg speaks during a VoteVets Town Hall in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, on Tuesday, May 13, 2025. (AP Photo/Cliff Jette)

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa — Pete Buttigieg said President Joe Biden’s decision to seek a second term “maybe” hurt Democrats and that “with the benefit of hindsight, I think most people would agree that that’s the case.”

But Biden’s former transportation secretary also tried to turn the page Tuesday night as he makes moves toward another presidential run in 2028, saying his party is “not in a position to wallow in hindsight” and using a packed town hall here to warn against counting on backlash to President Donald Trump in future elections.

“There’s this theory out there that if we just kind of hang back, don’t do much, then the people in charge today will screw it up, and then they’ll get blamed for it, then we’ll win,” Buttigieg said Tuesday night. “I disagree.” The audience cheered.

The town hall showcased Buttigieg’s vision for rebuilding the Democratic Party, hours after he suggested to an independent journalist that he would look at running in 2028. It also offered a glimpse of some potential challenges, including how he talks about his ex-boss Biden, who many in the party are still angry with over his decision to seek a second term.

Iowa is no longer Democrats’ first-in-the-nation caucus state where presidential campaigns are supercharged or deflated. But few think it is a coincidence that Buttigieg made his highest-profile public appearance since leaving government in the politically symbolic place where he pulled off an unlikely victory in 2020.

The last time he was in Cedar Rapids, Buttigieg said at the town hall, he was working to “fix up” the local airport. “And last time I was here before that, I was sort of --” he paused — “winning the Iowa caucus.”

The audience erupted.

Back then, in 2020, Buttigieg was the 38-year-old, openly gay mayor of South Bend, Indiana — a surprising standout in a Democratic primary field stocked with senators, billionaires and Biden. He raised his profile with a go-everywhere media strategy, narrowly beating Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) in the glitch-plagued Iowa caucuses before struggling in other early primary states and eventually throwing his support behind Biden.

Now, after four years as Biden’s transportation secretary, Buttigieg is one of the most prominent politicians in a Democratic Party searching for leaders. Heading to Iowa this week, he dropped by a happy hour with some of the volunteers and staff from his 2020 campaign before joining the town hall hosted by a liberal veterans group, where he appealed heavily to the audience’s sense of patriotism and talked about teaching his young children about the values behind the American flag.

He laid out a case against Trump, saying that “the American people bow to no king” and mocking one of Trump’s Cabinet members for referring to A.I. as “A1.” He wondered what the late civil rights activist and Democratic lawmaker John Lewis “would think of this moment,” saying “it would not come as novel to him that there’s a side of America that’s capable of political violence and illegal behavior by people in positions of power” and expressing optimism that the country can push back, as it has before.

He defended Biden to reporters when asked if the former president experienced “cognitive decline” in office, saying that “every time I needed something from him, from the West Wing I got it.” But he also told the crowd that Democrats “do not have the best brand around here” and need to convey “what we are determined to build,” not just what “we are trying to block.”

Buttigieg said that what Democrats stand for should rest on the principles of “freedom, security and democracy, correctly understood.” He got some of his loudest applause, and a standing ovation, when he said that includes women’s “right to choose,” underscoring the issue’s lasting potency for Democrats.

With 2028 still far away, it remains to be seen whether he has addressed his biggest vulnerabilities from the 2020 primary: namely, his struggle to win over the Black voters at the core of the Democratic base. Bakari Sellers, a former Democratic state lawmaker in early-voting South Carolina — where Buttigieg placed fourth in 2020 before dropping out — said it’s “premature” to say whether Buttigieg has dispelled his challenges with Black voters.

“He’ll be on my list to consider, certainly,” said Sellers, who credited the former transportation secretary for his ability to “go in any setting.”

Potential presidential candidates are traveling the country to offer their thoughts on the party’s path forward. Buttigieg has been advocating the strategy that brought him out of obscurity, urging Democrats to communicate through a wider range of media and break out of liberal bubbles.

It’s a message many are receptive to after a disappointing election in which Trump made savvy use of the podcast “manosphere” and shaped politics through culture.

“To me the thing we’re not talking about enough — while we talk about what we have to say, and how we have to say it — is where we say it,” Buttigieg said at a February panel discussion at the University of Chicago.

“We need to be prepared to go everywhere, and that’s always been my style,” he echoed last month on an episode of the “Flagrant” comedy podcast, which hosted Trump last fall.

Buttigieg’s couch sit-down with the “Flagrant” crew embodied the “go everywhere” pitch. For nearly three hours, he chatted with the hosts about Trump’s tariffs, his coming-out story and the TV show “White Lotus.”

One of the hosts, Akaash Singh, said he viewed Trump’s tariffs as a way to remedy “decay” in “middle America” and said of Democrats, “it doesn’t feel like the party that I want to identify with has any empathy for them.”

“Yeah, I think that's really important,” Buttigieg said. “And I think what my party has to do is respond to this in a way that doesn't make it sound like our whole argument is, let's just go back to 2024, right? Things like this, moments like this, movements like the one that's in charge of the White House right now don't spring up in a country or an economy where everything's going along fine.”

Other Democratic leaders and potential 2028 candidates have also been looking beyond traditional and liberal media. California Gov. Gavin Newsom has been courting MAGA influencers in recent months, inviting GOP activists Charlie Kirk and Stephen K. Bannon onto his podcast for cordial discussions. Rep. Ro Khanna (D-California), an ambitious congressman, has ramped up his ventures into pro-Trump media, at one point spending two hours live-streaming as the guest of a YouTuber who has called the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol an “inside job.”

But Sean Bagniewski, an Iowa state legislator who chaired the Polk County Democratic Party during the 2020 election cycle, said Buttigieg comes up most often in conversation with fellow Democrats as a model for how to communicate outside their comfort zone.

“I think the rest of the Democratic Party is finally starting to see that he was on to something,” Bagniewski said.

“Pete wrote the playbook on going everywhere in media,” said Lis Smith, a senior adviser on Buttigieg’s 2020 campaign. “It’s great that other Democrats are catching up to it, but he was talking to completely nonpolitical audiences, going to red areas, and appearing on right-leaning, right-coded, and flat-out right-wing media before it was fashionable.”

Buttigieg first stoked speculation about another presidential run this year when he passed on running for the governorship or an open Senate seat in Michigan — where his husband grew up and where Buttigieg now lives.

“When people show up in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina it generally means they are seriously considering running for president,” said Steve Elmendorf, a lobbyist and longtime Democratic political adviser who supported Buttigieg in the 2020 primary.

In 2020, Buttigieg did well in mostly-White Iowa and New Hampshire but then fell behind in Nevada and South Carolina, which have far more voters of color. If he runs again, his biggest challenge could be showing that he can build a diverse coalition.

Buttigieg made race a focus as transportation secretary, talking about the “racism physically built into some of our highways” through decisions that harmed Black communities and launching a $1 billion pilot program to address the issue.

But Sellers, the former South Carolina lawmaker, said candidates’ forward-looking pitch will be what matters. “We’re not electing somebody based upon their record as transportation secretary,” he said. “You’ll be electing somebody based upon the future and tomorrow.”

Iowans began lining up more than an hour before doors were scheduled to open at the Veterans Memorial Building where Buttigieg spoke. Many were Buttigieg supporters in 2020; others didn’t vote for him but were curious to hear what he had to say and eager for some outlet to vent about the Trump administration. The room was full; event host VoteVets, which supports Democratic veterans running for office, estimated about 1,800 people in attendance.

Buttigieg lingered for an hour after leaving the stage, greeting voters and posing for photos before taking brief questions from reporters.

John O’Bryon, a retired pastor, wore a “2020 Pete Buttigieg” shirt with the last digit hand-tweaked to read “2028.”

“Please, God,” he said, hands briefly clasped in front of him.

His wife, 67-year-old Bobbie O’Bryon, signed up to help Buttigieg’s 2020 campaign after seeing him on TV. At that point, John O’Bryon said, people thought, “who is this guy? Who does he think he is that he can run for the nomination?” No longer.

“He’s got the guts to go on Fox News, to go into the manosphere, to go into these places,” O’Bryon gushed. “And he’s so smart, and he’s just — you can’t stump him.”
 
Too early to tell, but inflation went down a little in most recent reports rather than skyrocketing which is what caterwauling liberals have been dooming for four months.
Thx. State of modern reporting is bad I had a read a few articles. So looks like China still facing the additional 10% baseline + 20% punitive, while US will face the additional 10% reciprocal. So outcome is that China is basically back to the original Trump tariffs (actually down from 34% to 30%) while the reciprocal tariffs they tried imposing have been dropped from 34% to 10%. This is also only a 90-day pause.

Actually I think this is a loss for China because their attempt to get out of the 34% tariff by imposing reciprocal tariffs has failed. Bad reporting IMO.
 
it's going to his presidential library after his term so that doesnt help things
which will be a government-operated building. The gift doesn't violate the emoluments clause because it's a gift to the United States, not Donald Trump.

Trump will never fly the jet as a private citizen.

Reagan's jet is already on display at his presidential library:
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The Seattle Museum of Flight (nonprofit funded by Boeing) has the plane used by Eisenhower through Nixon on display:
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Trump just wants the same thing for his museum.
 
Legit, the moment they bought McDonnell-Douglas and became a defacto monopoly is when they went to shit. Pathetic really.

Honestly, maybe Trump should nudge Lockheed back into producing commercial jets, competition encourages growth.

So many industries where we either have monopolies or oligopolies.

more competition might be better, but there's a reason they'd have to be cajoled and possibly subsidized back into the commercial aviation market. if you think Boeing production delays are bad, lockmart's best efforts to produce the Tristar resulted in an average of ~16 airliner deliveries a year between 1969-1984. Boeing and Airbus will each deliver more airliners in Q1 and Q2 of this year than lockmart did in 16 years
 
Did the tariffs actually reduce? I read article say “oh China dropped tariffs from 145% to 10% but that’s just back to what it was before Trump added extra tariffs so really China didn’t lower tariffs at all”. Is that a lie?

Hunter S. Thompson died in 2005. Are you undera-
>2005 was 20 years ago
>people born in 2007 are 18 this year

:stress:

Too early to tell, but inflation went down a little in most recent reports rather than skyrocketing which is what caterwauling liberals have been dooming for four months.
The people making the "how are those price of eggs" jokes have all stopped because egg prices have exponentially fallen the last three months.
 
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