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So if that loony left of the 1960s and 1970s had "smartphones" and "social media" back then, it could've been Current Year Clown World even back then, instead of such really taking off after the Occupy movement failed? I get the impression that loony leftism still wasn't nearly as influential as "social justice" got after the "GamerGate" circus.
It wasn’t as influential. It was just there. What the Left was pushing was, aside from trannies (not really a thing yet), very similar to now. Most of those people were literal Maoists. But the public was far less tolerant/indulgent of them.
 
Women should not hold any actual responsibility in society nor should they truly be held accountable for their actions, because they are insane.
Until their rights reflect that they shouldn't be held accountable then it's a moot point. They do have equal rights and so they should have equal responsibility too. This is why they should be drafted into the military too, to be consistent.

I was really just arguing that an adult woman can't do as much long-term damage to a teenage male as an adult man could do to a teenage girl.
I disagree (especially in a world where abortion is allowed up until the moment of birth), there's at most equal long-term damage.

Either way, excluding the mother, women should not have power over men in any circumstance. This way they would not have to be held accountable for their decisions as their insane decisions would not carry any weight. Outside of being smacked with an open hand when they transgress badly, as is natural and described very well by Sean Connery (sometimes you just gotta).
Smacking doesn't work, it only leads to resentment. If your relationship is at the point that a woman needs to be smacked then it should accompany a breakup because it's pretty much unsalvageable anyway.
 
Won't ever happen but he does deserve it and if it did ever happen I think there would be actual mass suicides.
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Can you imagine him winning it, coming out and giving a speech about how he earned it, not like the participation Nobel they gave Obama? I genuinely think they'd start trying to hunt him down in the street.
 
That's what I see in him that's so promising, a firebrand stopping them reverting to their neocon ways.

I still like that in signalgate he voiced his opposition to intervention even if he was resigned that it was gonna happen regardless. In private. Pretty strong moral character stuff.
Eh, I feel like "neocon" is what a lot of people use to refer to foreign policy hawks. The term neocon specifically refers to GW Bush-era Republicans who believe in "spreading democracy" through military intervention. There are plenty of people who favor US military intervention when it suits our interests, such as myself, who have no retarded ideas about "spreading democracy" whether it's sincerely-held or not. People like me simply think that the US should use its military when it's in our interests. This isn't a new idea nor is it uniquely American.

I get the "fuck foreign wars" sentiment and I don't think people who hold those ideas are necessarily wrong, but it's been championed lately by a lot of compromised people on both the American left and the American right who are taking money and cues from foreign governments. Case in point:
This is what happened essentially
How many liberals can we name who were in favor of being nice to Iran, only to find out they were Iranian agents all along? How many conservative pundits can we name who are pro-leaving-Iran-or-Russia-alone but take money from either country and its intermediaries?

I believe isolationists when they say "I don't give a shit about Burma, period, spend that money on fixing American bridges and helping American veterans." I do not believe isolationists who start sperging about Israel or multi-polar worlds and, knowingly or not, spout anti-American sentiment. I am 100% in favor of American Empire and I don't give a shit what anyone says because it's a helluva lot better than being under the thumb of Europeans, or Arabs, or the Chinese, or really anyone else. Rome did not become great by being isolationist. Britain did not become great by being isolationist. Hell, Russia and China didn't get where they are by minding their own business.
 
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Trump met with the President of Syria
Holy shit that was fast

They must have shoved that sucker into the nearest clean suit and flew him out an hour later.

Trump say's "I'm willing to meet the new Syrian President"

2 hours later the dude's on a plane to Qatar. Man can Trump make shit happen, no wonder the swamp creatures are 100% against him.
 
They must have shoved that sucker into the nearest clean suit and flew him out an hour later.
He's a big guy.

In all seriousness: he wants international recognition. Meeting with the US president gives recognition. Trump wants this camel jockey to sit at the table and cooperate. The one thing Trump does right is he's not afraid of playing tit-for-tat if the outcome is positive. Too many American politicians (and past presidents) think too hard about prestige and idealism.
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Man. I know democrats really get off on rice dick, but please tell me this isn’t why they push solar so hard

You don't think all those solar farms in the Southwest are American-owned, do you? Oh, my sweet summer child...
 
Man can Trump make shit happen, no wonder the swamp creatures are 100% against him.
That was one of the biggest things that stood out to me during Trump's first term, and he's continuing to do it in his second: You can just do things. Everything doesn't have to run through 15 committees and be focus grouped and the lobbyists consulted first. You can just get on a plane and go talk to people and cut deals using America's enormous leverage. Other politicians pretend to be really shitty at doing things so they can have plausible deniability, keep their gibs rolling in and never actually do anything, and it almost seems believable until someone like Trump reminds you that no, it's not actually hard when you are genuinely trying to make things better.
 
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Holy shit that was fast

They must have shoved that sucker into the nearest clean suit and flew him out an hour later.

Trump say's "I'm willing to meet the new Syrian President"

2 hours later the dude's on a plane to Qatar. Man can Trump make shit happen, no wonder the swamp creatures are 100% against him.
Trump wants a world at peace, not a world at War. He removed the 1979 sanctions. Regardless of his words, his actions alone prompted a response. He has earned respect.
 
Wtf dude, I didn’t even watch Johnny Bravo cause it was past my time

I’m not talking about who OWNS it, I’m talking about the latest example of China trying to sabotage our shit
How do you think China managed to Trojan horse that shit in, you dunderhead?

I also wanted to draw attention to the China-owned and sponsored solar farms in the US.
 
Until their rights reflect that they shouldn't be held accountable then it's a moot point. They do have equal rights and so they should have equal responsibility too. This is why they should be drafted into the military too, to be consistent.


I disagree (especially in a world where abortion is allowed up until the moment of birth), there's at most equal long-term damage.


Smacking doesn't work, it only leads to resentment. If your relationship is at the point that a woman needs to be smacked then it should accompany a breakup because it's pretty much unsalvageable anyway.
They aren't practically useful in combat, though. We already have an Army organization fully optimized to consoom fodder in the event of a Great Power war, yet the idea of women being drafted is novel. Of course subjecting them to equal inconvenience based on the idea of equality is interesting, maybe they could best serve the state by having children. Lol. Giving them equal responsibility pushes society further in the wrong direction, which is fine if you want to watch its foundation buckle, but in practical lowbrow terms, we should should simply exchange their rights back for the dignity they traded in to get rights in the first place.

In terms of women crushing their baby's skull because it was inconvenient? Yeah in an ideal homogeneous nationstate where a copper-age-tier mass depopulation event wasn't beckoning on the horizon this would be prevented at literally any cost. If only the scientists in Wuhan were chuddier Covid would have just sterilized black people and then disappeared entirely.

I'm no expert, but I don't think women work like that. A shocking amount of them are wired to enjoy being choked/slapped/restrained during coitus. Human history is overflowing with events where the men were slaughtered and the women became wives, so maternal genes which promoted submission to authority were promoted. They are biologically compatible with submission, and the natural order seems to place them in a position where being smacked is essentially the worst thing they would have to deal with in day to day life anyways, rather than, say, being crushed in a collapsing coal mine or flayed by painted natives.
 
The term neocon specifically refers to GW Bush-era Republicans who believe in "spreading democracy" through military intervention
Most of the old Bushite neocons (or their fathers), the Kristols (Irving), the Podhoertzes (Norman), etc., were old Democrats of the Henry "Scoop" Jackson variety -- socially liberal, anti-communist, interventionist, learned to love tax cuts, and so forth. After the end of the Cold War, the interventionist impulses birthed the Project for the New American Century, and off the 20-aughts went, alas.
 
Please pass that bill. This and tariffs would clear the debt in no time. It would also heavily disincentivize this practice. I don't care that the Vietnamese nail tech works 80hrs a week to send money home. I have been radicalized
I'd say treat it the same as a service or wire fee paid at the time of the transfer. If people want to send money abroad, fine, but there should be a convenience fee associated with it just like many other financial transactions.

Impeachment request got denied.
I feel the impeachment move by Thanadar was little more than an effort to score points with his constituents and the party at large for doing something - even if just symbolic and pointless - to further the whole "Trump Bad!" mantra.

Perhaps Thanedar isn't all that well-liked even among his own party.
His seat was held by a black person for quite some time and many constituents and party rivals are absolutely pissed that he took that seat away from a black politician and voters. The voting base in that area is so blue a dead fish would win easily if it appeared on the ballot with a (D) beside it. It's also why Thanedar had a shoo-in victory when his Democratic primary opponents either failed to get enough signatures or ended up disqualified from the ballot. There's already opposition lining up against him for the midterms because enough people want a black person back in that seat desperately.

They would probably be doing better if they kept nailing Trump on the economy - criticize tariffs and point to negative GDP the last quarter - but there are three hurdles they've failed to clear.
There is plenty to criticize Trump about in terms of what he has or hasn't accomplished so far. Yet, they've double, triple, quadruple, and quintupled down on the name calling even though it just isn't as effective any more.

You don't get judicial immunity if you break the law while you just happen to be a judge.
In her mind, she probably feels she did the right thing keeping a wanted illegal out of the hands of ICE. As others have stated, this is ironic since this is the same group whose talking points include, "Nobody is above the law," and demands accountability when people in the legal system do wrong.

They were agreeing with RFK Jr. on some food topics and their other lib friend was sperging out because RFK Jr. is part of Trump and thus everything he supports is bad.
Even people who dislike Trump or don't think highly of RFK have agreed that RFK's take on banning those artificial coloring and his desire to get people healthier are good things without regard to partisan politics.

I'm cautiously optimistic.
As am I. The fact Iran is even willing to sit down at the table is a good first step. Time will tell if this results in any sort of deal.

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The usual suspects are already bouncing and squeaking over the South Africans. Some are whining that Trump only cares about white immigrants and not brown ones; others are spouting the tired "Whites can never be oppressed rhetoric." I guess they don't grasp that these folks are coming over legally and have the ability to contribute to society and not live off of gibs. Its also ironic to consider these are the same people who not all that long ago were saying borders are nothing more than imaginary lines that people should be able to cross without impunity. Once again, their "It's okay only when we do it," mentality shines through.
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Let's call them the Long Fifties and the Long Seventies. Shitcan the idea of the Sixties. And some of what pop culture tries to pin on the Long Seventies is actually the Long Fifties. Civil Rights in the South? That's the Long Fifties. All that happened in the 1950s, just about. It shifts North (and broadens into a socialist agenda aimed at economic equality and imposing itself into White social spaces) after achieving political victory in the South.
What would you classify the 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s as?
 
How do you think China managed to Trojan horse that shit in, you dunderhead?

I also wanted to draw attention to the China-owned and sponsored solar farms in the US.
It’s just IN the shit we buy from them. They don’t own our ports, yet port gantry cranes had the same shit.

It’s the other top casus belli for decoupling. Trump better respond to this, in light of his tariff pause, which I think was bad timing considering the India/Pakistan shit
 
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