US No, You Don’t Actually Have a Right to a Bank Account - Null BTFO by New York Times

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When Brian P. Brooks was a financial regulator during the first Trump administration, he would hear complaints about “debanking” and force himself not to roll his eyes.

The expression was being used by representatives of some rather polarizing businesses, such as private prisons and fracking operators, who complained to Mr. Brooks, the acting comptroller of the currency, that their bank accounts were being closed without warning. His reaction boiled down to the free-market equivalent of tough luck. He didn’t see it as his job to compel banks to do business with anyone in particular.

Five years later, Mr. Brooks, who now runs a brokerage firm and advises cryptocurrency companies, says he is convinced there is a problem. He is among a growing number of people in the finance world who have urged Trump administration officials over the past half-year — in meetings in Washington and at the Mar-a-Lago club in Florida — to crack down on the practice.

“The electric company can’t deny you service because it doesn’t like your looks, and neither can a bank,” Mr. Brooks said in an interview.

In recent months, the cry of “debanking” has rung out from conservative and religious groups and the Trump Organization to accuse lenders of politically motivated discrimination. It is coming from cryptocurrency companies that say regulations bar them from opening ordinary bank accounts, and from liberal lawmakers speaking up for individuals and businesses whose A.T.M. cards are shut off without warning.

President Trump and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent have brought up the issue, and so has Senator Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts Democrat. And dozens of state attorneys general have written to the chief executives of major banks demanding answers.

But if there is a political consensus that debanking is a problem, there is less agreement on what to do about it. Or on what it is at all.

The term is most often raised by those who argue that the financial system has locked them out because of their political positions. Those denials can include closing accounts or refusing to provide financing or underwrite loans for certain types of activities.

No legal right to a bank account exists, however. Banks are prohibited from discriminating in lending on the basis of protected factors including race and gender, but are generally permitted to eschew categories of customers deemed too risky, such as adult entertainers or cash-dependent small businesses.

What appears as prejudice to some is, to others, simply a bank using its discretion to run a profitable business and avoid depositors who raise red flags. Lawmakers say there have been thousands of debanking complaints over the past few years,

“The debanking hysteria is all smoke, no fire,” said Adam J. Levitin, a professor of law and finance at Georgetown University. “It’s a lot of self-serving and unverifiable allegations from risky businesses and customers.”

But even lenders and regulators who hadn’t treated these complaints as a priority now say publicly that they are studying it seriously.

The Trump administration told Congress in March that it would cease enforcing an esoteric bank regulatory tool — an assessment of whether a banking activity may harm a bank’s reputation — that critics of debanking have assailed.

Administration officials have separately discussed with bank executives and regulators a number of potential moves, including issuing a presidential executive order on the matter and reviving a proposal from the first Trump term that would force large banks to provide “fair access” to their products, according to two people who have discussed the matter with administration officials but were not authorized to speak publicly.

In a sign of how much the tide has shifted, the same bank lobbying groups that fiercely fought a fair-access rule for the past few years have signaled that they might not object if it is attempted now.

The debanking conversation tracks back to the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis, when regulators enacted rules to deter banks from lending to risky businesses.

An Obama administration program, Operation Choke Point, cracked down on bank accounts for some payday lenders and gun-related businesses.

The first Trump administration dropped the Choke Point initiative, and Democrats also began arguing that a rash of small-business account closures was evidence that something needed to be done to curb debanking.

In late 2020 the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, under Mr. Brooks, said it saw evidence that the five largest banks in America — JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Citi, Wells Fargo and U.S. Bank — had stopped providing banking services to fossil fuel companies.

In one instance flagged by the attorney general’s office for Wyoming, Wells Fargo’s website advertised that the lender would deny services to coal mining companies. The web page has since disappeared, and Wells Fargo spokeswomen declined requests for clarification on the bank’s current policies.

But other examples commonly cited by conservative media in recent years are disputed, such as the case of Indigenous Advance, a Tennessee Christian charity active in Uganda. The charity, with the help of a religious advocacy group, Alliance Defending Freedom, filed a complaint with the state’s attorney general in 2023, arguing that Bank of America had apparently closed its account because the lender disagreed with its religious views.

Bank of America firmly denied that, saying that Indigenous Advance was involved in debt collection and that the bank refuses to serve such entities.

Jeremy Tedesco, senior counsel at Alliance Defending Freedom, said Bank of America had not given that reason when it closed the account but had raised it only four months later, after the media began writing about the case. One thing that isn’t disputed: The Tennessee attorney general’s office did not pursue the case.

For Mr. Trump, the issue appears to be both personal and political.

The first lady, Melania Trump, wrote in her recent memoir that a bank had dropped her and the couple’s son, Barron, though she cited no evidence and her office declined to provide any. And in March, the Trump Organization sued Capital One in a state court in Florida, accusing the bank of “unjustifiably terminating” more than 300 of its bank accounts after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol because of “‘woke’ beliefs.”

A Capital One spokesman denied that the bank closed any accounts for political reasons, but declined to provide any other reason for Trump account closures.

A White House spokesman, Harrison Fields, said in a statement, “The White House is, of course, concerned with the illegal abuse of power by banking institutions and their regulators designed to eradicate conservatives from public life.”

The topic has also given Mr. Trump an opportunity to reward the crypto industry, which contends that it is de facto debanked by regulatory conditions under which banks can open accounts for crypto companies. The industry says these guidelines have made it difficult to engage in even basic banking services.

In a statement, a Treasury spokeswoman called debanking “un-American” and said Mr. Bessent had asked regulators to address the issue of “reputational risk.” Some critics of debanking have said banks should not be allowed to use this risk as justification to refuse banking services to potential customers.

“The Treasury Department remains committed to ensuring that the banking system operates with integrity and provides fair access to Americans.”

Senator Tim Scott, Republican of South Carolina, has advanced a bill that seeks to address debanking concerns directly. The major bank lobbying groups support the bill, which one prominent bank attorney, speaking anonymously to avoid angering policymakers, called “an exercise in self-preservation.”

The Federal Reserve, too, has said it is looking into the issue. Late last month, the Fed withdrew directives that required banks to notify it before doing business with crypto clients — one of the more hated rules for crypto firms.

And in February, the central bank’s chair, Jerome H. Powell, told lawmakers that it had removed language from a manual for its regional reserve banks regarding how they decide which financial companies gain access to the Fed’s payments system.

The guidance on these master accounts previously urged the reserve banks to “consider the conduct of the institution and its leadership and whether association with the institution poses undue reputational risk.” It also raised the issue of whether the institution in question was engaged in “controversial commentary or activities.”
 
I absolutely have, and I sympathize with him, and with anyone who loses a bank account, especially for political motivations. But, it is not a right, nor is it necessary to have one to "make it in society" as I've seen written here, countless times.
It's not a right to have something that's fucking needed for 99.9% of any jobs? I've seem some retarded takes in my time but that's certainly up there.
 
Cool New York Times now do how the financial crisis was caused somewhat by the Civil Rights Act, forcing banks to lend to non whites who will never pay back their loans. Oh wait, you never get touched that with the 10 foot pole because. The owner of the Souls Burgers Times, the souls Burger family, the old Jewish money family whose been switching political legions every fifty years to keep the disgusting subhuman filthy jew
paper in business.
Things the New York Times has published. Holodomor denialism, op eds by Adolf Hitler. Little communist agitrop.
 
. Meanwhile, voting is a right for every citizen over 18
Voting technically is not a right, and many of the problems we have today are because too many people vote
But, it is not a right, nor is it necessary to have one to "make it in society" as I've seen written here, countless times.
Even if it was a right, we'd have to assume our federal government would protect those rights. Seeing how the feds have a poor time protecting the 1st, the 2nd and many other "rights" I wouldn't assume for the best
 
Cool New York Times now do how the financial crisis was caused somewhat by the Civil Rights Act, forcing banks to lend to non whites who will never pay back their loans. Oh wait, you never get touched that with the 10 foot pole because. The owner of the Souls Burgers Times, the souls Burger family, the old Jewish money family whose been switching political legions every fifty years to keep the disgusting subhuman filthy jew
paper in business.
Things the New York Times has published. Holodomor denialism, op eds by Adolf Hitler. Little communist agitrop.

Also, doesn't Ye's song talk about having his bank account frozen?
 
The whole concept of reputational risk is bullshit. Pick 5 random celebrities or polticians. Do you know what banks they hold accounts in? The answer is no. But somehow Chase, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo are all feigning fear that their reputation will be harmed if a controversial right wing political figure holds an a banking account with them when in reality practically nobody knows except the bank itself.
 
How is a bank account required for a job? I've been working for twenty five years and never needed one. I don't trust them.
Direct deposit is needed for just about any job you get, and you know damn well the NYT is adding Credit Unions and PayPal in this umbrella. If you've been working for 25 years you've got enough life experience to know that the days of picking up your paycheck on payday and cashing it are long since dead.
 
Well, Paypal and Venmo aren't considered banks, right? Neither are credit unions I guess? Certain credit cards also don't require checking or savings accounts either.
I use cashier's checks for large purchases, like my house, but otherwise, cash is king.
Direct deposit is needed for just about any job you get, and you know damn well the NYT is adding Credit Unions and PayPal in this umbrella. If you've been working for 25 years you've got enough life experience to know that the days of picking up your paycheck on payday and cashing it are long since dead.
If they cannot give you a physical check, they are required to open a debit card on your behalf where they deposit money. Direct deposit is never mandatory, and if it is, it's their responsibility.
 
It's not a right to have something that's fucking needed for 99.9% of any jobs? I've seem some retarded takes in my time but that's certainly up there.
How would a right to a bank account even work? A bank can’t underwrite at all? Restrictions on deposits and withdrawals? What exactly would a bank be allowed to do to protect itself from fraud?
 
Direct deposit is needed for just about any job you get, and you know damn well the NYT is adding Credit Unions and PayPal in this umbrella.
Well, technically Paypal and Credit Unions aren't considered banks by law. But this misses the point. For 99.9% of people, you're not going to lose your banking account over politics. Normies don't fear stuff like this. The ones that do are in very unique political situations that will require more than just the law. At some point, if you're doing something that challenges the powers at bay, its a bit optimistic to assume the government is going to protect you. You either have to become a staple, imbued in politics to such an extent that its impossible, do some form of parallel economics that makes it fool proof or be willing to break the law.

The government is never going to protect dissenting voices. It doesn't benefit from that, and never has an incentive to do that.
 
Did anyone actually read the article? All it is stating is banks have a right to refuse customers and some customers are without options. It doesn’t say they are going to do shit about it; just that they’ll think about it and ponder if they should do shit about it.
How is this at all revelatory to anyone in this thread? Do you really think no-one read the article?
 
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