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Should be a wild four years.

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Oh boy, 2 ugly black sheboons coming right at our wallet. I'm sure most people will be THRILLED

I'd agree they're owed something. I'd support a constitutional amendment mandating a kick in the arse for anyone insisting on being paid off like this. Anyone who gets violent about it loses their citizenship in return for a one way trip to Monrovia.

Suddenly, I begin to feel.....
Fatigued.

That's how this works. The grift is meant to wear the normies down via intimidation until they pay the grifters off. The bigger the payoff, the bigger the incentive to do it again.

Muslims were behind the African slave trade. They were behind the European and Asian slave trade too. Armenians and people of the Balkans were slaves of the Ottomans for centuries. How do you think they react when their former slaves want them to acknowledge their atrocities?

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They still have slaves. Not a peep from the grifters. It's dangerous to harass Muslims, with no payoff.

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Stop treating Leftist assholes as if they weren't Leftist assholes. Punish them. No pity. No mercy.
 
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If we're pointing fingers, the problem is the French like always.

The fault is in not treating socialists like National Socialists. North Vietnam was one long coastline. The US should have landed all along the North Vietnamese coast, making raids on urban centers and treating any Marxists they got their hands on as the Vietcong treated civilians in Hue.

Student protesters in the US should have been rounded up and sent to Vietnam in penal battalions. Those shirking combat duty would be executed as traitors on the spot. Treat Marxists like they treat everyone else.
 
Trump and his people’s satanic talent for exploiting his opposition’s procedural weakness — and an instinctive sense for scrambling usual ideological lines — seemed to flummox the justices
"satanic talent"

Trump Might Have Figured Out How to Trap the Supreme Court
New York Magazine (archive.ph)
By Irin Carmon
2025-05-15 17:13:40GMT
On paper, an oral argument in which not even Samuel Alito wants to argue for the meat of what the Trump administration is trying to do, Amy Coney Barrett utters an incredulous “really,” and Elena Kagan subjects the solicitor general to a furious line of questioning — followed by Neil Gorsuch saying Kagan asked his questions for him — is one that is not going well for the government.

Except it’s not that simple. At an abruptly scheduled hearing on Thursday, the justices had not been asked to rule on the substance of President Donald Trump’s day-one executive order purporting to erase birthright citizenship for anyone who didn’t have at least one U.S. citizen or green-card-holding parent. Rather, the question was whether district court judges could each block Trump’s order for the whole country. The argument made clear the administration would have cleanly lost on the constitutional question. Instead, Trump and his people’s satanic talent for exploiting his opposition’s procedural weakness — and an instinctive sense for scrambling usual ideological lines — seemed to flummox the justices, and by the end of the day, it was not at all clear what would happen.

Solicitor general John Sauer wasn’t wrong when he started out his argument calling nationwide injunctions “a bipartisan problem,” even if almost everything else he said was false. He insisted that such injunctions “prevent the percolation of novel and difficult legal questions,” but there is nothing novel or difficult about birthright citizenship — which is spelled out in the 14th Amendment and has repeatedly been reinforced by generations of Supreme Court decisions — unless your goal is to toss out the Constitution so you alone get to decide who deserves the privileges of citizenship. (And if you don’t have those privileges, the administration separately claims, you also don’t deserve due process.) The government argues that the citizenship clause only applied to “children of former slaves,” even though in debating the amendment, Congress considered and rejected language that would be that narrow, in favor of the sweep of what we have now.

To argue about procedure was to set a clever trap, because probably the people most irritated that cherry-picked district court judges are ruling for the whole country are the nine justices. And this tool is both abused by and bedevils both sides, though not quite symmetrically. When the Harvard Law Review crunched the numbers last year, it turned out that 92 percent of nationwide injunctions during Trump’s first term were issued by judges appointed by Democrats. During the Biden administration, it became even more polarized — 100 percent of the injunctions came from Republican-appointed judges.

Most infamously, that included Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk, whose Amarillo, Texas, courtroom was often the first stop for fellow movement conservatives to challenge liberal policies, issuing a 2023 order undoing the long-standing FDA approval of a pill used in medication abortion. (The Supreme Court undid it.) This time around, largely due to the Trump administration’s lawless executive orders, more nationwide injunctions and temporary restraining orders were issued in February of his year than the first three years of the Biden administration. Judges in Massachusetts, Maryland, and Washington State had blocked the birthright-citizenship executive order, including in response to claims brought by pregnant women seeking asylum whose future children would be denied citizenship to which they’re constitutionally entitled.

And yet, trying to strip newborns of their constitutional rights happens to be one of the few instances in which a nationwide injunction seems indisputably necessary. If a judge’s ruling only applied to a narrow jurisdiction, a baby’s citizenship status would depend on whether they happened to be born within those lines. Arguing for the states who challenged the executive order, New Jersey solicitor general Jeremy Feigenbaum pointed out that it would be totally unworkable for states to administer benefits that required a Social Security number, or in places where a birth certificate has been enough to prove citizenship. Even Brett Kavanaugh, who didn’t seem unsympathetic to the administration’s side, sounded skeptical when Sauer told him that federal officials would verify the immigration status of the parents before recognizing a newborn’s documents. “For all the newborns?” Kavanaugh said. “Is that how it’s going to work?” Equally unworkable would be demanding that each individual newborn hire a lawyer or bring a claim to block it from going into effect in the first place.

Recognizing how implausible this is, some of the conservatives floated class-action lawsuits instead of demanding nationwide injunctions. It sounded good, except for one thing. “When Kavanaugh and Gorsuch say the answer is class actions, I want to bang my head against the wall,” said Georgetown law professor Steve Vladeck after the argument. That’s because the same justices and their allies have over the years made it nearly impossible to bring class-action lawsuits. Chief Justice John Roberts said, optimistically, that maybe nationwide injunctions from single justices weren’t necessary because the Court itself could get its act together pretty fast, like it purportedly did in the TikTok case. This, too, was a misdirection. As NYU law professor Melissa Murray dryly pointed out, the Court can also drag it out with the best of them, as it did in the criminal cases against Trump, until it ruled he had presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for “official acts.”

It fell on Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson to cut through the obfuscation. If a lower court judge was powerless to block an unconstitutional law for the whole country, Kagan pointed out, and only the party that loses a case can appeal it, the Court might never get the chance to say the executive order was constitutional. “It’s up to you to decide whether to take this case to us,” she said to Sauer. “If I were in your shoes, there is no way I’d approach the Supreme Court with this case.” Instead, the government wants to force “individual by individual by individual” into court, “and all of those individuals are going to win. And the ones who can’t afford to go to court, they’re the ones who are going to lose. Again, this is not a hypothetical. This is happening out there, right?” It is.

Jackson was even plainer. “If the government is saying no lower court can completely enjoin it, it actually means that the government just keeps on doing the purportedly unlawful thing,” she said, “and it delays the ability for this court to reach the underlying issue.” Kagan chimed in again: “So for years, there are going to be an untold number of people that this Court has said should be citizens who will not be treated as such.

It was an echo of the equally lawless “deport first, due process maybe later” immigration operations the administration has been conducting. And if the Supreme Court doesn’t figure out a way to swat it down, with or without ruling on the nagging issue of nationwide injunctions, the Trump administration might just get away with it.
Biden officials "awed" by Trump's rule-breaking Middle East moves
Axios (archive.ph)
By Dave Lawler
2025-05-15 09:58:11GMT
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Photo illustration: Sarah Grillo/Axios. Photo: Mikhail Svetlov/Getty Images

President Trump's recent series of audacious foreign policy moves have astounded even some of his harshest critics.

The big picture: Just in the Middle East and just in the past week, Trump has met with a leader the U.S. officially considers a terrorist, announced he'll lift all sanctions on Syria, and cut a truce with the Houthis plus a hostage deal with Hamas, both of which excluded Israel.

What they're saying: Biden administration veterans who spoke with Axios raised questions about Trump's motivations but grudgingly saluted his boldness.
  • "Gosh, I wish I could work for an administration that could move that quickly," one admitted.
  • "He does all this, and it's kind of silence, it's met with a shrug," says Ned Price, a former senior State Department official under President Biden. "He has the ability to do things politically that previous presidents did not, because he has complete unquestioned authority over the Republican caucus."
  • "It's hard not to be simultaneously terrified at the thought of the damage he can cause with such power, and awed by his willingness to brazenly shatter so many harmful taboos," says Rob Malley, who held senior posts in three Democratic administrations, including handling Iran talks under Presidents Obama and Biden.
Zoom out: On issue after issue, Trump is taking steps no recent president would have even considered.
  • He abandoned the unified Western position to back Ukraine "as long as it takes" by negotiating directly with Vladimir Putin and declaring that Kyiv will never get Crimea back and must cut a deal now.
  • He inserted himself directly in the recent Kashmir crisis, something past administrations have avoided so as not to antagonize India.
  • He endorsed direct talks with Iran and shrugged off hawks at home and abroad who tied the Obama and Biden administrations in knots. It helps that many of them, like Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu, are loath to cross Trump.
Zoom in: On Syria, Trump's own State Department had espoused a policy similar to the Biden administration's before it — sanctions relief might be possible if militant-turned-statesman Ahmed al-Sharaa's government met a number of criteria, such as suppressing extremist groups.
  • That meant that, somewhat perversely, the new administration was being strangled by sanctions imposed on the dictator they toppled. But it was also just the way these things work, until Trump decided it wasn't.
  • "It's so clearly the right decision," said Ben Rhodes, a national security aide to President Obama, on the "Pod Save the World" podcast. "I don't know why Joe Biden didn't do this."
  • "I don't like Trump's motivations for lots of things he does," Rhodes continued, "but one thing you will say is he's not tied to this constant fear of some bad faith right-wing attacks or stupid Blob-type, 'we don't do this, we must leverage the sanctions for blah blah blah.' No! Sometimes you just have to try something different."
Perhaps most shocking to veterans of previous administrations, Trump authorized direct talks with Hamas last month that Israeli officials only learned about through espionage (or by reading Axios).

Driving the news: This week, Trump's envoy-for-everything Steve Witkoff used backchannel talks to negotiate the release of Israeli-American hostage Edan Alexander, undercutting Israel's own negotiating tactics.
  • "I suspect Witkoff doesn't have to look over his shoulder as much as others have. His predecessors have had to make sure the secretary of defense is on board and the secretary of the Treasury is on board, and the head of the CIA is on board. He just does it," the former Biden official said.
Flashback: The Biden administration considered but ultimately rejected opening direct talks with Hamas.
  • "This is not about President Biden, this is about President Trump and the advantage that he has with Bibi [Netanyahu]," Price said. "If the Biden administration had done something like this, Bibi would have gone out guns blazing."
  • Now, even with the daylight between him and Trump growing more glaring, Netanyahu is keeping uncharacteristically quiet.
The flipside: Trump has also not pushed back hard as Netanyahu cut off all aid to Gaza, refused to budge in ceasefire negotiations, and announced a military operation to flatten and occupy the enclave.
  • Price argues that's the more nefarious side of Trump's a-la-carte "America First" approach.
  • "Unfortunately, we have a real-life experiment going on right now where we see exactly what happens when an administration abdicates that concerted pressure on the Israelis."
Between the lines: All the former Democratic officials who spoke to Axios questioned Trump's motives, even for policies they personally agreed with, noting that he's not just breaching norms to make peace, but also to sell cryptocurrency, expand his real estate portfolio or obtain a $400 million jet.
  • The Syria announcement notably came at the urging of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, two leaders fluent in Trump-style transactionalism.
 
Send 'em to Africa if they love it so much. Maybe they'll get a reality check when they hear what your average African has to say about American black people.

Same goes for anyone else. Never argue with or appease grifters. Punish them. Be like Singapore.

Punishment for cheating

417. Whoever cheats shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 3 years, or with fine, or with both.

Cheating with knowledge that wrongful loss may be thereby caused to a person whose interest the offender is bound to protect

418. Whoever cheats with the knowledge that he is likely thereby to cause wrongful loss to a person whose interest, in the transaction to which the cheating relates, he was bound either by law or by a legal contract to protect shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 5 years, or with fine, or with both.

Punishment for cheating by personation

419. Whoever cheats by personation shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 5 years, or with fine, or with both.

Singapore Statutes Online - Penal Code 1871 (Cheating)
 
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Trump Might Have Figured Out How to Trap the Supreme Court
New York Magazine (archive.ph)
By Irin Carmon
2025-05-15 17:13:40GMT
Isn't this already the case with Constitutional questions on other matters, like say 2nd Amendment issues?

Let's say Nashville passes a law restricting the magazine capacity of handguns. The Second Amendment Foundation sues, the case goes back and forth through the courts until the Appeals court for the 6th Circuit eventually says, "Cut out that unconstitutional bullshit." Nashville appeals to the Supreme Court, but the SC doesn't grant certiorari and so in the 6th Circuit at least, that law is struck down. Magazine capacity laws are dead-on-arrival in the states of Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, and Tenessee and unenforceable.

Meanwhile, California passes a similar magazine capacity law. The law is similarly challenged, but the 9th Circuit says the 2nd Amendment does not bar California from taking necessary steps to restrict gun capacity, because doing so furthers the state's legitimate interest in reducing crime.

Until the Supreme Court grants certiorari to the 9th Circuit case, or another case to address the circuit split, we have in effect, different application of federal law in different portions of the country.

The Supreme Court should consider carefully the consequences of how they rule on this.
 
House Dems introduce multi trillion dollar reparations bill to eliminate wealth gap between whites and blacks

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Rep. Pressley: "The United States owes us a debt, we need reparations NOW"

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Is this Presley guy retarded or something? I only ask so I can know if I can call him a tard without feeling guilty. The people who owned slaves are deader than Pelosi's sex life, who the fuck is left to pay said reparations?
 
Allowing Syria to rebuild, is a massive fuck you to Israel.
Specially a Islamic, Turkish aligned Syria.

It's even funnier when you consider that Israel will now have to choose between letting gaza be rebuilt by hundreds of billions of dollars in Arab oil money or let that cash be sent to their existential enemy for the past 70 years in the north to keep gaza destroyed and eek out any sort of victory.

Trump kneecapped Israel's foreign expansion plans into turning Syria into Lebanon 2.0 with a multitude of small minority states, like the Kurdish in the east or the Druze in the south or the alawites in the coast.

Their only hope now is to get Russia to stay in the coast, it's the only counter to full Turkish occupation of Syria.
I'm hoping against hope that this means Syrian Latakia is back on the menu.... if the farms haven't been destroyed by the wars.
 
who the fuck is left to pay said reparations?
The people who paid reparations did so with blood and soul when their bodies fell on Gettysburg, and make up the eldest headstones of Arlington. But that would require recognizing that white people, mostly Republicans, actually sacrificed for blacks to be free, and not just pretend blacks freed themselves through voodoo.
 
Newsom proposes $20-million funding cut for California newsrooms, citing budget issues
Los Angeles Times (archive.ph)
By Andrew J. Campa
2025-05-15 02:47:42GMT
Gov. Gavin Newsom proposed slashing funding by 67% for a pioneering deal with Google to support struggling California newsrooms, citing financial pressures that have promoted wider budget cuts.

California newsrooms had expected to receive $30 million from the state as part of a deal brokered last year in which Google and the state would jointly contribute money over five years to support local newsrooms through a News Transformation Fund. The state Department of Finance confirmed Wednesday that California instead will pay out $10 million for the 2025-26 fiscal year.

“The sole reason for the reduction is more limited/fewer resources than projected in the January budget,” Department of Finance spokesperson H.D. Palmer said.

Newsom announced Wednesday that the state is facing an additional $12-billion budget shortfall next year. The revised $321.9-billion plan will also include a reduction in healthcare for low-income undocumented immigrants and a decrease in overtime hours for select government employees.

The deal was born of negotiations that began with a proposed funding bill written by Assemblymember Buffy Wicks (D-Oakland), which is known as the California Journalism Preservation Act. It would have required Google to pay into a fund annually that would have distributed millions to California news outlets based on the number of journalists they employ. The California News Publishers Assn., of which the Los Angeles Times is a member, backed the larger effort.

It was designed to aid newspapers that have seen their finances collapse in recent years, leaving fewer journalists to cover institutions and communities.

The proposal was modeled after a Canadian bill that has Google paying about $74 million per year. Google fought the bill, arguing its passage would force the company to remove California news from its platform, thus restricting access for Californians.

Instead, the state and Google agreed in August to provide nearly $250 million to newsrooms over five years, starting in 2025, with funding slated for two projects.

The second initiative was a $68-million pledge for Google to fund artificial intelligence in the form of a National AI Accelerator. The AI funding element of the deal drew sharp rebukes from Democratic lawmakers and journalists.

California had pledged $30 million in 2025 and $10 million for each of the next four years. Google agreed to an initial payment of $15 million in 2025 and $55 million in total into the journalism fund. Google also agreed to boost its own journalism programs with a separate $50-million grant.

Rebuild Local News President Steven Waldman said the $30-million pledge to support local news was “modest” but a “meaningful first step.”

“Cutting it by two-thirds moves California in the wrong direction at a time when local journalism is collapsing across the state,” Waldman said. “We urge the Legislature to hold an open, transparent hearing to assess the impact of this shortfall and explore ways to ensure funding matches the scale of the crisis.”
 
Since hostage talks between Israel and Hamas resumed in Doha on Wednesday, US special envoy to the Mideast Steve Witkoff has told other mediators that Washington doesn’t plan to force Israel to end the war in Gaza amid Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s staunch refusal to do so, two Arab officials told The Times of Israel on Thursday.

Israel has been holding secret talks with Syrian officials in recent days, including on the possibility of the new regime joining the Abraham Accords, according to a report Thursday, a day after US President Trump invited new Syrian President Ahmad al-Sharaa to join the accords and normalize ties with Israel.



Is this the legendary pivot that people were crowing about
 
This fucking faggot:

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"I got to the head of the FBI but I never heard of "86ing" something, honest, I'm good boi, muh democracy."
James Comey is one of the greatest in the world at stepping in shit. Every time he does something people notice it's something stupid he has to be brow beaten for and he immediately backs down and begs for forgiveness. Just a champion at being a complete dipshit.
 
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