US No, You Don’t Actually Have a Right to a Bank Account - Null BTFO by New York Times

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When Brian P. Brooks was a financial regulator during the first Trump administration, he would hear complaints about “debanking” and force himself not to roll his eyes.

The expression was being used by representatives of some rather polarizing businesses, such as private prisons and fracking operators, who complained to Mr. Brooks, the acting comptroller of the currency, that their bank accounts were being closed without warning. His reaction boiled down to the free-market equivalent of tough luck. He didn’t see it as his job to compel banks to do business with anyone in particular.

Five years later, Mr. Brooks, who now runs a brokerage firm and advises cryptocurrency companies, says he is convinced there is a problem. He is among a growing number of people in the finance world who have urged Trump administration officials over the past half-year — in meetings in Washington and at the Mar-a-Lago club in Florida — to crack down on the practice.

“The electric company can’t deny you service because it doesn’t like your looks, and neither can a bank,” Mr. Brooks said in an interview.

In recent months, the cry of “debanking” has rung out from conservative and religious groups and the Trump Organization to accuse lenders of politically motivated discrimination. It is coming from cryptocurrency companies that say regulations bar them from opening ordinary bank accounts, and from liberal lawmakers speaking up for individuals and businesses whose A.T.M. cards are shut off without warning.

President Trump and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent have brought up the issue, and so has Senator Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts Democrat. And dozens of state attorneys general have written to the chief executives of major banks demanding answers.

But if there is a political consensus that debanking is a problem, there is less agreement on what to do about it. Or on what it is at all.

The term is most often raised by those who argue that the financial system has locked them out because of their political positions. Those denials can include closing accounts or refusing to provide financing or underwrite loans for certain types of activities.

No legal right to a bank account exists, however. Banks are prohibited from discriminating in lending on the basis of protected factors including race and gender, but are generally permitted to eschew categories of customers deemed too risky, such as adult entertainers or cash-dependent small businesses.

What appears as prejudice to some is, to others, simply a bank using its discretion to run a profitable business and avoid depositors who raise red flags. Lawmakers say there have been thousands of debanking complaints over the past few years,

“The debanking hysteria is all smoke, no fire,” said Adam J. Levitin, a professor of law and finance at Georgetown University. “It’s a lot of self-serving and unverifiable allegations from risky businesses and customers.”

But even lenders and regulators who hadn’t treated these complaints as a priority now say publicly that they are studying it seriously.

The Trump administration told Congress in March that it would cease enforcing an esoteric bank regulatory tool — an assessment of whether a banking activity may harm a bank’s reputation — that critics of debanking have assailed.

Administration officials have separately discussed with bank executives and regulators a number of potential moves, including issuing a presidential executive order on the matter and reviving a proposal from the first Trump term that would force large banks to provide “fair access” to their products, according to two people who have discussed the matter with administration officials but were not authorized to speak publicly.

In a sign of how much the tide has shifted, the same bank lobbying groups that fiercely fought a fair-access rule for the past few years have signaled that they might not object if it is attempted now.

The debanking conversation tracks back to the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis, when regulators enacted rules to deter banks from lending to risky businesses.

An Obama administration program, Operation Choke Point, cracked down on bank accounts for some payday lenders and gun-related businesses.

The first Trump administration dropped the Choke Point initiative, and Democrats also began arguing that a rash of small-business account closures was evidence that something needed to be done to curb debanking.

In late 2020 the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, under Mr. Brooks, said it saw evidence that the five largest banks in America — JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Citi, Wells Fargo and U.S. Bank — had stopped providing banking services to fossil fuel companies.

In one instance flagged by the attorney general’s office for Wyoming, Wells Fargo’s website advertised that the lender would deny services to coal mining companies. The web page has since disappeared, and Wells Fargo spokeswomen declined requests for clarification on the bank’s current policies.

But other examples commonly cited by conservative media in recent years are disputed, such as the case of Indigenous Advance, a Tennessee Christian charity active in Uganda. The charity, with the help of a religious advocacy group, Alliance Defending Freedom, filed a complaint with the state’s attorney general in 2023, arguing that Bank of America had apparently closed its account because the lender disagreed with its religious views.

Bank of America firmly denied that, saying that Indigenous Advance was involved in debt collection and that the bank refuses to serve such entities.

Jeremy Tedesco, senior counsel at Alliance Defending Freedom, said Bank of America had not given that reason when it closed the account but had raised it only four months later, after the media began writing about the case. One thing that isn’t disputed: The Tennessee attorney general’s office did not pursue the case.

For Mr. Trump, the issue appears to be both personal and political.

The first lady, Melania Trump, wrote in her recent memoir that a bank had dropped her and the couple’s son, Barron, though she cited no evidence and her office declined to provide any. And in March, the Trump Organization sued Capital One in a state court in Florida, accusing the bank of “unjustifiably terminating” more than 300 of its bank accounts after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol because of “‘woke’ beliefs.”

A Capital One spokesman denied that the bank closed any accounts for political reasons, but declined to provide any other reason for Trump account closures.

A White House spokesman, Harrison Fields, said in a statement, “The White House is, of course, concerned with the illegal abuse of power by banking institutions and their regulators designed to eradicate conservatives from public life.”

The topic has also given Mr. Trump an opportunity to reward the crypto industry, which contends that it is de facto debanked by regulatory conditions under which banks can open accounts for crypto companies. The industry says these guidelines have made it difficult to engage in even basic banking services.

In a statement, a Treasury spokeswoman called debanking “un-American” and said Mr. Bessent had asked regulators to address the issue of “reputational risk.” Some critics of debanking have said banks should not be allowed to use this risk as justification to refuse banking services to potential customers.

“The Treasury Department remains committed to ensuring that the banking system operates with integrity and provides fair access to Americans.”

Senator Tim Scott, Republican of South Carolina, has advanced a bill that seeks to address debanking concerns directly. The major bank lobbying groups support the bill, which one prominent bank attorney, speaking anonymously to avoid angering policymakers, called “an exercise in self-preservation.”

The Federal Reserve, too, has said it is looking into the issue. Late last month, the Fed withdrew directives that required banks to notify it before doing business with crypto clients — one of the more hated rules for crypto firms.

And in February, the central bank’s chair, Jerome H. Powell, told lawmakers that it had removed language from a manual for its regional reserve banks regarding how they decide which financial companies gain access to the Fed’s payments system.

The guidance on these master accounts previously urged the reserve banks to “consider the conduct of the institution and its leadership and whether association with the institution poses undue reputational risk.” It also raised the issue of whether the institution in question was engaged in “controversial commentary or activities.”
 
Don't worry. It's not the case. They have to give you your money back. The only time they can seize it is if they get a confirmed match with someone on OFAC sanctions lists, and they don't even always do that. Usually, they just reject the transaction, close the account, and report it to the Feds.

The bank might nickel-and-dime you with overdraft or dormancy fees, but those things will be spelled out in the disclosures you receive. They can't just take their customers' money, that's literally embezzlement.

If getting rich were that easy, everyone would do it.

So what, they inform the holder of the account that they're closing and ask for where they should send their money, hoping they have an account elsewhere that also won't be closed? Mail them what was in the account in ones?

I have no sympathy for this happening to an ISIS cell or something, but since the article mentioned that it's happening to legitimate business owners, it just seems off. If the individual/company has been debanked and flagged at one bank, presumably they'd also eventually lose any other accounts held at different banks, so what are they meant to do if they need a new account to get their money out of a closed old one but can't make one anywhere?
 
Would there happen to be a good way that I can contact these writers and ask if they would be fine not having a bank account, or something of a similar philosophical question? I usually wouldn't care about trying to contact a journo over an article written, but this does quite grinds my gears.
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Sadly, these banks are private businesses, although regulated by the government. They apparently can deny service to any customer/prospective customer. Are there ways around using a bank? Yes, but not easy and can be time-consuming.

Could there be a bank that takes anyone and everyone? Maybe, but suggest they would charge high fees and report anything even looking illegal to the Feds right off.
 
So what, they inform the holder of the account that they're closing and ask for where they should send their money, hoping they have an account elsewhere that also won't be closed?
They'll cut them a check for whatever remained in the account. The bank's attitude is "go somewhere else, you can't stay here".
Mail them what was in the account in ones?
If the individual/company has been debanked and flagged at one bank, presumably they'd also eventually lose any other accounts held at different banks
No. Banks are forbidden from giving out nonpublic sensitive information like that, unless there's actual criminal activity involved.

You also seem to think banks are some hivemind of ideologically-driven spite. They're not. At worst, they're washing their hands of it and telling the debanked, "not our problem."
 
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A right to banking should exist. Everyone should be allowed, at an absolute minimum, to have a checking account. If the bank doesn't want to give you anything else, fine, but at the absolute bare minimum everyone should be allowed to have a checking account. There is no reason it can't be considered a fundamental right.
 
Because our elected officials have passed laws barring declared enemies of the people from being allowed to operate. Keeping dangerous people groups from being able to participate in our society is perfectly reasonable. That is a fundamental reason why we have governments and put said dangerous people in jail.

The right of the people to go about their lives in safety supercedes some Nicaraguan cholo's right to have a place to launder his drug money.
Criminals exist, therefore faceless corporations should have the power to arbitrarily debank whoever they please.

Slit your wrists lengthwise and lay in a warm bath until you bleed out. Aspirin will help reduce clotting.
 
If banks have the privilege of taxpayer bailouts, then taxpayers should have the privilege to have a bank account.
Only the largest corpo banks are "too big to fail" and thus worthy of taxpayer bailouts. The smaller regional, state, county and city banks were told to fuck off and die. As seen in the 2008 crash where they were decimated in the classical Roman definition of the word. And their financial assets hoover up by the larger corpo banks.

Lehman Bros was the token sacrificial lamb to appease the plebs.
 
At the very least, banks should be forced to give out what criteria they had to reject somebody's business. I don't buy that it's all merely an attempt to "avoid risky customers" when everybody who complains that a bank or payment processor dropped them are not given a reason. Hell, even when the media asks them about specific cases, the banks always clam up, every goddamn time. This black box bullshit needs to stop. If they want to debank a site like KF, they should be required to state that they yanked the account because an angry troon would not stop calling their exec's home phones about the site. That's bullshit, they are able to dodge any sort of risk by just dropping people and not even listing their criteria.
It SHOULD be an inherently risky action to outright drop customers, but since it's the goddamn banks, they are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want.
 
you think ISIS and the cartels don't actively use the world's reserve currency whenever possible.
you have catastrophically misunderstood my point. i suggest you put on your thinking cap and try to understand what i am trying to say instead of namecalling.
 
A right to banking should exist. Everyone should be allowed, at an absolute minimum, to have a checking account. If the bank doesn't want to give you anything else, fine, but at the absolute bare minimum everyone should be allowed to have a checking account. There is no reason it can't be considered a fundamental right.
You'd almost think the government would find a way to enforce this; especially with how much they want to be up in everyone's business, as well as how direct deposit is more of the norm than cutting physical checks anymore. I don't have to like it, but having a bank account anymore is like having a cellphone; sure you can exist without one, but you're at a detriment if you do, and being forced out of one is a punishment.
 
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Ah, the "Navel Gazer Answer" - completely correct, but also? Of such little practical value, one gets enraged upon hearing it treated seriously.

Yes, you don't have a "right" to a bank account, same way you don't have a "right" to safe streets, a job or to attempt to date the opposite sex, but, good luck telling anyone with a straight face that means if you don't have any of those? You have no right to complain......
 
At the very least, banks should be forced to give out what criteria they had to reject somebody's business. I don't buy that it's all merely an attempt to "avoid risky customers" when everybody who complains that a bank or payment processor dropped them are not given a reason.
There's already a list provided by Obama's Operation Chokepoint categorizing which risky customers who need to be debank. For payment processors like PayPal, it been debanking customers ever since it was founded. Big criteria for debanking have been how much cash is in the PayPal account.

Hell, even when the media asks them about specific cases, the banks always clam up, every goddamn time. This black box bullshit needs to stop. If they want to debank a site like KF, they should be required to state that they yanked the account because an angry troon would not stop calling their exec's home phones about the site. That's bullshit, they are able to dodge any sort of risk by just dropping people and not even listing their criteria.
It SHOULD be an inherently risky action to outright drop customers, but since it's the goddamn banks, they are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want.
The banks won't do that as it would open them up to criminal and civil liability.
 
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