Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

A Very Big Fish said:
I love Mike Mignola's work, and his stuff is not super detailed, he uses a lot of flat colors, but it kicks ass because he writes good stories, and his style is consistent and the use of heavy blacks and dark colors lends itself to some of the moodier stories
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This is why Mike Mignola's work will be forever ACTUALLY iconic.
I'm not saying EVS's art is bad, he puts a lot of details, I admire that, some of this work looks a bit off because he likes to get super detailed, and sometimes the colorist makes people look fake.

But Mike's is something you associate ONLY with Mike. Yes, to most people, they can tell the difference between Ethan and any other artist with that attempted hyper detail. I will always prefer Mike's over Ethan's, it's stylistic, it's dynamic, it's memorable.
 
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Gee Willows Wilson! said:
This is why Mike Mignola's work will be forever ACTUALLY iconic.
I'm not saying EVS's art is bad, he puts a lot of details, I admire that, some of this work looks a bit off because he likes to get super detailed, and sometimes the colorist makes people look fake.

But Mike's is something you associate ONLY with Mike. Yes, to most people, they can tell the difference between Ethan and any other artist with that attempted hyper detail. I will always prefer Mike's over Ethan's, it's stylistic, it's dynamic, it's memorable.
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Let us face it; EVS's artstyle was never the problem. It is his tardiness and lack of professionalism that ruins this.
 
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If anything, Frogman's attitude shows that, whether he wants to admit it or not (and he sure doesn't), he needs to be wrangled and be told that his shit does stink like everyone else's.

When they take people's money, they enter a contract to fulfill what their customers paid for. Their customers not paying for them to smell their own farts and posture on social media. It's like stepping into Frogman's Burger Shack only to have one's orders still "being prepared" hours later - it's only a fucking burger, and I have nothing to lose just going to McDonald's instead.

In this case, RippaVerse is the McDonald's. Sure, the offerings are not amazing, but they scratch an itch that one has in a timely manner, so there's that. Meanwhile, Frogman and Zach behave like high class whores that take your money but refuse to put out, constantly "washing their hair" or "having a headache", and if you complain, they will say bug off, you clearly don't deserve their awesomeness (refunds may or may not be given).
 
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BlankSpaceBaby said:
If anything, Frogman's attitude shows that, whether he wants to admit it or not (and he sure doesn't), he needs to be wrangled and be told that his shit does stink like everyone else's.
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He used to claim that's why he posted here.

I guess he didn't like it when we told him his shit was smelling extra rancid. So, he ran off.
 
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BlankSpaceBaby said:
If anything, Frogman's attitude shows that, whether he wants to admit it or not (and he sure doesn't), he needs to be wrangled and be told that his shit does stink like everyone else's.

When they take people's money, they enter a contract to fulfill what their customers paid for. Their customers not paying for them to smell their own farts and posture on social media. It's like stepping into Frogman's Burger Shack only to have one's orders still "being prepared" hours later - it's only a fucking burger, and I have nothing to lose just going to McDonald's instead.

In this case, RippaVerse is the McDonald's. Sure, the offerings are not amazing, but they scratch an itch that one has in a timely manner, so there's that. Meanwhile, Frogman and Zach behave like high class whores that take your money but refuse to put out, constantly "washing their hair" or "having a headache", and if you complain, they will say bug off, you clearly don't deserve their awesomeness (refunds may or may not be given).
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Exactly. The Rippaverse gives me entertainment and a universe that I find interesting. As a reader I don't read Comics to find flawless masterpieces, I read them to be entertained....and I am. And they are not even CLOSE to being as bad as they try to make it look like it is. The books do their job, that's all I care about. EVS needs to stop giving excuses and start giving what people pay him for. He did the same thing with Iconic, but it didn't work with THAT company either. Rippaverse and Iconic are here to stay, he can't do anything about that.
 
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It’s a trap from bad actors anyways. Nobody asked for, or expected, perfection, just competence and respect for the consumer.

Eric’s stuff is proof people just want fun comics. They don’t have to be perfect or groundbreaking, just not full of hate and weirdness.

You don’t have to be perfect to stop subverting characters, proselytizing for one political side, doing bare minimum art, pricing people out of the hobby, antagonizing fans and potential newcomers, treat your job like a job and do it, etc.

They’re doing what the weirdo pros did to them with strawman arguments.
 
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What happened here is that Ethan didn't mind a certain amount of criticism because he knew he was on top in the independent comics world. So he could pretend to take the criticism here to heart, while actually just ignoring it and doing his own thing.

Then EJ happened.

Now that EJ is doing better than him, the criticism actually stings, and he doesn't want it anymore.

Simple as. That's why he's gone.

The only reason the thread isn't shitting on him 24/7 is because his constant caterwauling about EJ is insufferable to listen to. Zack, for better or worse, is more digestible in his idiocy. I detest Ethan way more, but I totally get why people loathe to follow what he's up to. A lot of it is mired in Trashcast, and I'd rather watch just about anything else.

The tweets, like @SteelPlatedHeart and @KiwiChud post, help spark a good discussion now and again though.
 
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Tepes Thot said:
Eric’s stuff is proof people just want fun comics. They don’t have to be perfect or groundbreaking, just not full of hate and weirdness.
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FluffyJackal said:
Am not trying at all to defend such Auschwitzable scum as Vito, but....

Any mouth-breathing imbecile stupid enough to give Vito any money in hopes of exchanging goods and services from the guy deserves... nay,allow me to correct.... NEEDS to have his money taken away from him, so that he learns in big kindergarten level nuance that he's too retarded to make financial decisions by himself. If the backer learns from this that he should have his family control his money allowance, then this has been one of the savviest investments he could possibly make with his room temperature level IQ; And if doorknobs like these supported Vito on CG's recommendation, then I hope they support at least a couple more future campaigns from Gesualdi as due punishment for being such idiots.
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I'm more surprised Vito is so uncaring about it getting done. Most of those early backers would have been his (and maybe Dick's) fans. But perhaps those people like being treated like crap.
 
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MisterCH 86 said:
Yeah, THIS looks bad. It's amateur at best, total slop at worst. I will admit quality is a matter of taste and subjective, but to me this looks bad.
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The usual rule is that you need to learn the rules before you break them. Vito is trying to justify using flat colors by saying it's an esthetic choice. We all know he is just using the paint bucket tool. The action sequences are devoid of any excitement. Is this a purposeful decision too? It doesn't appear to be some sort of satire.
 
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Delany's Donkey said:
It looks like clip art or a comic that a children's dentist gives out to his patients to remind them to floss
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I'll say it does. He REALLY needs to STFU about Isom or Eric July with the crap HE'S doing. I heard the story was bad too, and after seeing the leak I can agree.

Wenger said:
The usual rule is that you need to learn the rules before you break them. Vito is trying to justify using flat colors by saying it's an esthetic choice. We all know he is just using the paint bucket tool. The action sequences are devoid of any excitement. Is this a purposeful decision too? It doesn't appear to be some sort of satire.
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Well he says A LOT of things, that doesn't mean he's being honest. Like his cow dressing partner, they are not known for being honest. I wouldn't trust him to tell me the sky is blue at this point in time. He's so dishonest I'd have to go outside just to take a look and see for myself if he ever says it.
 
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Wenger said:
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Smartest thing Crackets has said in years.

Also, old comics definitely had a more de-saturated color pallet. Whether that was because of the ink, or something in the printing process, I have no Earthly idea. Even if all of these colors he's using were available to the earliest colorists, they clearly were not the ones that those colorists used on every mundane panel.
 
Grunka Lunka said:
I'm more surprised Vito is so uncaring about it getting done. Most of those early backers would have been his (and maybe Dick's) fans. But perhaps those people like being treated like crap.
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Why should Vito care? Campaigns in crowdfunding platforms are not really stores and as such offer no guaranteee that a given campaign shall deliver. Furthermore Vito being a POS about it is on fucking brand for him. I'd be more surprised if he even seemed to try.

Generally speaking, Vito's campaign backers may be broken down into two camps
• Those who knew who Vito was. So they get exactly what they deserve for liking and supporting a depraved turd
• Those who didn't know who Vito was, but supported the campaign on @FROG's say-so. So they get exactly what they deserve for mindlessly doing their petty bitch master's bidding.
 
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