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Should be a wild four years.

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I'm kind of mixed on if I think a Democrat will win the next presidential election because it's set up to swing back to the Dems as it always does but at the same time I'm starting to agree with James Carville that the Dems are going so far off the cliff of sanity that they might be unelectable come 2028. It's hard to imagine Democrats winning an election when they have nothing to offer. No plans, no policy, no alternatives to what Trump brings to the table. All the Dems have is mental breakdowns.
Unless Trump fucks up really bad, they probably aren't gonna win shit. The pendulum is swinging back hard. Their hardcore voting base the Boomers are dying off, they have alienated all the the middle aged centrists and the Youngsters are more right wing then ever and hate them because they have been pushed their faggotry in school 24/7. Plus all the illegals they have imported to vote for them, didn't really vote for them in the 1st place and are getting deported.
 
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Who wants to get angry?

New Mexico judge dismisses all charges for illegals who trespassed on a US military zone at the border

A New Mexico judge has dismisses all charges against 96 illegal aliens who trespassed onto US military space when trying to enter the US...also illegally.

The judge states "The criminal complaint fails to establish probable cause to believe the defendant knew he/she/they was entering the military zone"

Yes this judge is literally saying that these illegals who were trying to enter the US illegally via one of the new "military zones" Trump had set up are to be released immediately, into the US of course while they await their due process deportation hearings, because they didn't know what they were doing was wrong.

So next time you get in trouble with the law you can just say you didn't know it was illegal and they will let you off right?

LOL...it's another Obama judge of course.
Ignorance of the law IS an excuse when you don't want the law to be enforced. This is the judge performing his own little faggoty version of Jury Nullification.

Judges like this should be black bagged -- that is, grabbed in the night and threw into Gitmo forever, not killed. (Although please, PLEASE let them resist arrest.)

And instead of criminal complaints, the invaders should be brought up on Military Tribunal charges. No fucky fucky judgey judgey games there.
 
Gulf States Embrace Trump’s New Vision of Middle East
Bloomberg (archive.ph)
By Sam Dagher
2025-05-16 15:25:09GMT
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Attendees wait to hear MBS and President Trump speak during a Saudi-US investment forum on May 13.Photographer: Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images

At every stop on his just-ended tour, President Donald Trump’s words were music to the ears of his Saudi, Qatari and Emirati hosts.

He spelled out an unambiguous message: the US is forging a new partnership with nations in the energy-rich Gulf and the wider Middle East. It’s one focused on deals, business and economic modernization, and de-escalating the region’s conflicts. American discourse about human rights and democracy will no longer feature.

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US President Donald Trump speaks with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman before posing for a family picture with Gulf leaders in Riyadh on May 14.Photographer: Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images

“This great transformation has not come from Western interventionists giving you lectures on how to live or how to govern your own affairs,” Trump told a rapt audience in the Saudi capital on Tuesday. “No, the gleaming marvels of Riyadh and Abu Dhabi were not created by the so-called ‘nation-builders,’ ‘neo-cons,’ or ‘liberal non-profits,’ like those who spent trillions failing to develop Kabul and Baghdad, so many other cities.”

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Trump speaks during the Saudi-US investment forum on May 13.Photographer: Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images

Trump was referring to the US military invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq after the 9/11 attacks on America in 2001. Washington spent trillions of dollars in the following years trying to stabilize those nations and establish Western-like democracies, with nothing much to show for it.

During Trump’s trip, the White House announced hundreds of billions of dollars-worth of investments and trade orders from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, ranging from artificial intelligence chips to Boeing jets and energy.

One of the most eye-catching moments was when Trump announced, out of the blue, that he would order the removal of sanctions on Syria. The next day, he met and shook hands with Ahmed al-Sharaa, the new Syrian president who was once an Al-Qaeda militant fighting US troops in Iraq.

Trump said he did it in part because Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan — two strongman leaders who have long enjoyed a close rapport with the US president — asked for it.

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Trump shakes hands with Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa in Riyadh.Source: Saudi Royal Palace/AP Photo

The move shocked Israel, traditionally the US’s closest Middle East ally, which says Sharaa and his government are Islamist extremists who can’t be trusted. Trump has taken the view of MBS, as the Saudi prince is known, and Erdogan, who argue that rebuilding Syria is essential to stabilizing the Middle East and will provide plenty of business and trade opportunities.

“This is a great victory for Gulf states,” said Sanam Vakil, director of the Middle East and North Africa program at London’s Chatham House. “Trump is fully endorsing their governance structures, their idea of an economically focused model that comes with constraints on political participation.”

Trump’s pronouncements from the marble covered palaces of the Arabian Peninsula were the antithesis of a famous speech delivered by former US President Barack Obama in June 2009 at Cairo University.

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Barack Obama delivers his message to the Muslim world from Cairo University, in 2009.Photographer: Mandel Ngan/AFP//Getty Images

“I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed, confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice,” Obama said.

A year later, protests in Tunisia ignited the Arab Spring and later led to unrest in countries like Bahrain and Egypt, and wars in Libya, Syria and Yemen. Many regional leaders felt Obama was naive in supporting protests calling for the overthrow of autocratic leaders who were for the most part allied to America.

With the exception of Qatar, which backed the Arab Spring uprisings and saw them as an opportunity to empower its Islamist allies, Gulf states viewed it as a chaotic decade for the Middle East that benefited non-state actors like Islamic State and Iran-backed proxies such as Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The rift was one of the main reasons for an economic boycott of Qatar from 2017 to 2021, during Trump’s first term, by Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

There has since been a reconciliation in the Gulf and Trump emphasized the camaraderie between the leaders he visited this week. He even told Qatar’s emir he was similar to MBS, who orchestrated the boycott. You’re both “tall, handsome guys that happen to be very smart,” Trump told Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad.

In a speech on Wednesday, Trump accused his predecessor, Joe Biden, of having “wreaked havoc and bedlam” in the Middle East and “turning his back on Gulf allies” by wanting to extricate America from the region as part of a pivot to Asia.

“Those days are over,” he said. “Everybody at this table knows where my loyalties lie, always have. They will never waiver.”

Still, the subtext of Trump’s other pronouncements was that while America will continue to project military might, it was now up to the US’s Gulf friends to do much of the heavy-lifting to stabilize the region.

MBS reminded Trump that the region — experiencing conflicts in Gaza, Sudan and Yemen, and messy post-war transitions in Iraq, Lebanon and Syria — still needed America.

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Qatar’s Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad accompanies Trump in Doha.Photographer: Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images

“We are aware of the enormity of the challenges,” MBS said. “We strive with you your excellency, Mr. President, and our brothers in the member states of the GCC to end the escalation in the region and the war in Gaza,” he said, referring to the six-member Gulf Cooperation Council, of which Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE are members.

US involvement and leadership is essential when it comes to Iran as well as Gaza and the possibility of further normalization between Israel and more Arab states, according to Paul Salem, director of international engagement at the Middle East Institute in Washington.

Trump’s administration is in the middle of talks with Tehran to curb its nuclear activities and is pushing for a ceasefire in Gaza as well as the release of hostages there.

These are “the two big ones that are region changing and which Trump has to work on,” Salem said from Riyadh, where he followed Trump’s visit.

The good news for Gulf countries is that Iran realizes a diplomatic agreement with the US can lead to investment from the likes of Saudi Arabia, boosting the Islamic Republic’s sanctioned and battered economy, according to Vakil at Chatham House.

For now, Gulf states could scarcely be happier with Trump’s policies, even if they realize he can do little on his own to resolve the most complicated regional problems such as the Israeli-Palestinian and Yemen conflicts.

“The Gulf states have taken the path of least resistance with Trump, prioritizing bilateral arms and business deals while setting aside difficult issues,” said Hasan Alhasan, a Bahrain-based senior fellow for Middle East policy with the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
I haven't really been paying close attention to his trip, but this is good stuff:
“This great transformation has not come from Western interventionists giving you lectures on how to live or how to govern your own affairs,” Trump told a rapt audience in the Saudi capital on Tuesday. “No, the gleaming marvels of Riyadh and Abu Dhabi were not created by the so-called ‘nation-builders,’ ‘neo-cons,’ or ‘liberal non-profits,’ like those who spent trillions failing to develop Kabul and Baghdad, so many other cities.”
 
Why is it that libertarian conseintly have the worst takes?
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Libertarians have an obsession with universal principles that apply extremely broadly.
Here, they're applying the universal principle of freedom of speech and the universal principle that people have the right to resist a corrupt government.
The problem is they believe in a sort of single drop rule for corruption and infringement. James Comey tried, and succeeded in taking away all their rights and putting them all in jail. He is the definition of a corrupt government official; but they don't care because gosh darn it Trump is currently the President, and James Comey is (theoretically) a private citizen. So now everything that made him a corrupt politician now makes him "good".
 
Why is it that libertarian conseintly have the worst takes?
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Cause they are basically the right wing equivalent of the faggy weed smoking hipster marxist. Except instead of the "Dude if we just like get rid of capitalism and greed, we could all be happy and no one would ever be exploited again." it's "Dude if we like just get rid of the government, we could all be happy and no one could ever be exploited again, cause muh free market capitalism". Other than that basically the same, both dress like faggots, hang out with faggots, love drugs and love watching their GF get railed by tyrone.
 
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You know what yes fuck you, I want to reverse social progress. Beacse the second that equality was achieved and apthetihed ended, revenge began. Equality has and always will be a lie, it was always about revenge nothing more nothing less, so fuck off with your concern trolling
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Tiresome is a good word for this.
Whenever a white person raises an objection on a matter there is often one smart ass saying "if you don't like it go back to Europe/The Uk/Australia/America etc.
But then when between 49 and 59 people leave its tantrum city for weeks. The funny thing is that on the ground, most of the blacks are rather indifferent. But the white liberals are particularly galled. If they said the silent part out loud it would probably look like this
I accepted guilt for Apartheid and suffer what I must for doing so. Its unfair that you refuse to do so. You are leaving us behind to deal with this mess
The white liberal is a strange creature. As long as the "bad" whites, who protest their treatment, exist he has someone to hide behind. If the "bad" whites all fuck off, they will be the only whites left and they will have nobody to kick at to deflect from themselves. At this point I may as well migrate out of spite. Its getting really irritating now. Not as a refugee though. No need for that.

Typical faggots Massie and Roy are against the big beautiful bill, it's just so tiring with these tough edgy bois.

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Lets see if Mike Johnson can work magic next week. I personally think that this will get passed but at this point its a gamble. Also, do you think that they will vote on any floor rules on this matter? I recall reading that there is a tool in Congress where before you introduce a bill you can vote on a rule that prevents amendments and revisions in the sub-committees. Does anyone know what this is called and what the procedure is for that?

Maybe they should whip out the House Mace. Give Massie and Roy the what for
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Clearly, Israel needs some diversity. We should send them about 350,000 Jeets and 500,000 of the coal blackest dindus we can find to live with them. It's our strength, it can be theirs too.
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How about 3 and a half MILLION Sudanese?

its much closer and you dont need to use any boats

Sudan Civil war isent talked about as much for some reason but that shit is wiggity wiggity wack yo
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I stopped following it regularly in 2024 when AP got video of the RSF lighting whole villages on fire in like a big coordinated circle, with the people inside I stopped for my own peace of mind.

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Its wikipedia table of contents is some great dark humor, 3rd tab in you get war crimes, cant even wait. Disinformation in its own tab is also golden
 
I'm feeling a bit blackpilled on the whole H1B situation right now. It could be worse.

Equality has and always will be a lie, it was always about revenge nothing more nothing less, so fuck off with your concern trolling
Its more a kludge to bring about marxism. Since the marxists realized after WWII they couldn't use the same tactics they used in China and Russia.

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More infuriating US justice shit

The judge who delayed ICE agents (Hanna Dugan) to allow that illegal to escape thru the back door in her courtroom has filed for a Protective Order to ensure all evidence both visual and audio will be kept out of the hands of the public for....reasons.

IE: her shit looks real bad, she said some real stupid stuff to the ICE agents and she and her masters don't want the public to see any of it. So all the videos and recording and statements will not be disclosed to the record so...yah nothing for us to see.

It's not a good sign that the judge presiding over the case accepted this request without pause. Chances are Dugan walks on these charges and that's why they don't want the video of her walking the illegal out the back door of her courtroom on Fox.

We won't get to see the video of Dugan leading the illegal out of her court nor will we get the rage caught on the agents body cam's.

Much sad.

Her official trial starts July 22 and she's pleading Not Guilty due to immunity.
 
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Why is it that libertarian conseintly have the worst takes?
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Because they're fucking retarded and meant to waste the time of people who might otherwise be effective in pushing for change in the GOP or DNC. Ann Coulter, for example, is another one of these -- her job originally was to trick the right into embracing positions the left can easily lob talking points at, but after Trump won despite the Pied Piper strategy (which Coulter was in on and a major part of) her job became "lets just demoralize MAGA as best we can and pray we can get back to the status quo someday."

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How about 3 and a half MILLION Sudanese?

its much closer and you dont need to use any boats

Sudan Civil war isent talked about as much for some reason but that shit is wiggity wiggity wack yo
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I stopped following it regularly in 2024 when AP got video of the RSF lighting whole villages on fire in like a big coordinated circle, with the people inside I stopped for my own peace of mind.

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Its wikipedia table of contents is some great dark humor, 3rd tab in you get war crimes, cant even wait. Disinformation in its own tab is also golden
I'm sure the Sudanese would add amazing diversity and flavor to the local Israeli culture. These new Israelis will make them stronger!
 
Listen I love conspiracy theories as much as the next guy.

but lets look at things.

1) Theory: Covid the pandemic was planned event to re organize the world into neo fedual society

Truth: a bunch of goverment wonks were paying for the chinese to do illegal research

Hence a bunch of cover your ass.

2) Theory the DNC has a plan to destroy the white race by importing a bunch of brown people

Truth: The DNC is looting the public purse by giving public money to NGO's that function as money laundering organizations, also positions in these organizations provide make work jobs for members of elite, that have been over produced.

Basically The brown people voted for trump, the progressive factions wants to progressive harder while the liberal faction wants to be a bunch of fucking cry babies.

The twisted reality we ve been in for over 10 years is the result of the intellegance agencies fearing populism and then building capacity to control the narrative. They then waste this capacity on the most stupid of shit.

The World Economic Forum is in termoral and they are going after the founder because get this the organization was/is a grift.

Let me refine my point.

The Goverment burned a shit tone of creditability by doing the lock downs. They cant play that card again.

The DNC cant control its own organization because they need black women (who are lets face it retarded) to be the leadership.

Biden is still hanging around to fuck with them.

Trump as done more in 6 months than biden did in 4 years. Worse once you starve an organization and purdge it. spooling it back up is fucking hard.
We weren’t just paying for chinks to do our dangervirus work, we were supplying them with serial passage technology to perform gain of function. Everyone involved should have their finances forensically investigated. That’s not a “whoopsy daisy,” it would be like building a factory in China and bringing in Chinese engineers to help us make our stealth coatings.

By any sane reasoning, a person would do well to suspect that illicit payments were involved.

Further, the virus seems to have escaped while there were “world military games” going on. I don’t know it that’s coincidental or some retarded CCP plot to degrade other countries’ militaries, but either way China is solely responsible for the release part whether it was an accident or retarded.

As far as forced diversity, this whole thing is a lot higher risk than the Covid thing, because we weren’t supposed to know about Covid while eventually you’re guaranteed to notice that your town is browner and locking your doors has become a necessity. Risk/reward maintaining a ratio would suggest the reward they expected was bigger, and obviously that goes to not JUST grifting and pocketing aid money, but CONTROLLING increasingly large segments of the population with grant money, essentially creating an economic hostage situation. These same people turned around to tell you that even with the extra tens of millions of brown people, we still can’t bring back manufacturing

But at the end of the day, I don’t know how you can look at this all in totality and think people just fuck up that bad and keep doing the same shit. I think it’s pretty obvious that at minimum, they want to damage the part of the economy which is NOT controlled by multinational corporations to create a dependency where you can’t just do things for yourself but require permission to have a job. Without that type of economy, the cancel culture/payment processor black list/social credit regime doesn’t actually DO anything. You need to remove the alternatives

Now I love hanlon’s razor as much as the next guy, but simple incompetence stopped being a sufficient explanation years and years ago
 
its much closer and you dont need to use any boats
That's more of a minus really. Boats are the most efficient form of mass transit we have as humans. Plus there are no proper roads or railways for transit in Africa, and there is a huge desert in the way as well.
 
Couple things real quick, we are headed into a 80s level republican rule, I wouldn't be too surprised if it's even a stronger swing. The dems only came back from that because of how strong Bill Clinton was, he was a generational talent that I doubt we will see again in my lifetime. The midterms will be a good test of that, I look for the republicans to pick up at least one if not three senate seats, and I really think the story in the house will be more maga pickups and less nevertrumper types like cringeshaw, and roy. I think Massie's seat is safe, being from Kentucky I feel like I know a bit more about that seat that most, he's a juggernaut in his district and he's got his seat until he no longer wants it. Vance has the primary firmly in hand in 28, and the real interesting bit will be who he picks for VP.

And as far as lolberts, most of them are just child molestors and retards, the misa (can't remember the spelling) is solid, but the rest are retarded mongoloids.
 
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