US Biden-Hur Tape Drops, And Boy Is It Rough

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A segment of former President Joe Biden's October 2023 interview with special counsel Robert Hur just dropped, and boy is it rough.

Biden couldn't remember details such as when his son Beau died, when he left office as vice president, what year Donald Trump was elected, and why he had classified documents in his possession that he shouldn't have had.

According to Axios, which released the recording, Biden frequently slurred words or muttered, and "appears to validate Hur's assertion that jurors in a trial likely would have viewed Biden as "a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory."

Listen:



Hur elected not to prosecute Biden for mishandling classified documents based partly on the former president's pea-soup brain - angering Republicans as Trump was facing his own charges of mishandling classified information.

It's also of course notable because the MSM insisted Biden was "sharp," and slammed Hur's assertions as politically motivated.

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The audio was from two three-hour sessions on Oct. 8 and 9, 2023 - which the Biden White House refused to release, arguing that they were protected "law enforcement materials," and that Republicans only sought to "chop them up, distort them, and use them for partisan political purposes."

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How long did Axios have this recording? Before the election?
 
The Axios article:
Exclusive: Prosecutor's audio shows Biden's memory lapses
Axios (archive.ph)
By Marc Caputo and Alex Thompson
2025-05-16 22:33:35GMT

Amid long, uncomfortable pauses, Joe Biden struggled to recall when his son died, when he left office as vice president, what year Donald Trump was elected or why he had classified documents he shouldn't have had, according to audio Axios obtained of his October 2023 interviews with special counsel Robert Hur.

Why it matters: The newly released recordings of Biden having trouble recalling such details — while occasionally slurring words and muttering — shed light on why his White House refused to release the recordings last year, as questions mounted about his mental acuity.
  • The audio also appears to validate Hur's assertion that jurors in a trial likely would have viewed Biden as "a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory."
  • Partly based on that determination, Hur decided not to prosecute Biden for improper possession of classified documents, angering Republicans because Trump was facing charges in his own classified document scandal then.
  • Democrats and Biden's White House blasted Hur for his observations about Biden. They repeatedly insisted he was "sharp" and that Hur was politically motivated. But the audio from the six hours of interviews indicates he and co-counsel Marc Krickbaum were respectful and friendly.
The big picture: The audio surfaces as Democrats and the national media are grappling with the legacy of Biden's White House and campaign hiding his decline as he ran for another four-year term at age 81.
  • Democratic leaders have struggled this week to respond to reports about a new book on that topic — "Original Sin," by Axios' Alex Thompson and CNN's Jake Tapper — that will be released Tuesday.
  • The audio — from two three-hour sessions on Oct. 8 and 9, 2023 — adds voice and dimension to the transcripts of the interviews that the Justice Department made available in the weeks after Hur's report was released Feb. 8, 2024.
  • Biden's White House refused to release the recordings last year, arguing they were protected "law enforcement materials" and that Republicans only wanted "to chop them up, distort them, and use them for partisan political purposes."
Between the lines: The audio shows what the transcript lacks — the president's dry-whisper voice and the long silences as he struggles to find the right words or dates. Those often were supplied by his attorneys, who acted as caretakers of his memory.
  • The attorneys had to remind Biden the year his son Beau died (2015) and when Trump was first elected (2016).
  • Also captured on the audio: the tick-tock of a grandfather clock in the White House's Map Room, where the interviews took place. It adds a metronomic measurement of Biden's halting speech — especially as he describes his book, Promise Me, Dad, about Beau's death from brain cancer at 46.
This is how that part of the interview is recounted in the transcript: Biden says, "OK, yeah. In 2017, Beau had passed and — this is personal — the genesis of the book and the title Promise Me, Dad, was a — I know you're all close with your sons and daughters, but Beau was like my right arm and Hunt was my left."
  • But here's what it sounded like in the quiet room where the dead air between Biden's pauses is emphasized by the tick-tock of the clock:
"Okay, yeah … "
  • Tick.
"... Beau had passed and …"
  • Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock. Tick.
"... this is personal …"
  • Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock. Tick.
"... the genesis … "
  • Tick.
"...of the book and the title Promise Me, Dad, was a …"
  • Tick. Tock. Tick.
"... I know you're all close with your sons and daughters, but Beau was .."
  • Tick. Tock.
"...like my right arm and Hunt was my left."

Reality check: While Biden had clear memory lapses and needed assistance at times (with words such as "fax machine" and "poster board"), overall he was engaged in the interview.
  • He cracked jokes and made humorous asides, and was able to respond to the general gist of the questions. But he had little memory of how he came to have classified documents after he left office as vice president.
  • On Oct. 8 the first day of the interview and the day after Hamas' attack on Israel — Biden often was slow and forgetful of basic facts.
  • That day, it took Hur more than two hours to clearly determine how the documents could have ended up in various personal desks and file cabinets after Biden left office. That was because Biden kept veering into other subjects.
  • On Oct. 9, however, Biden sounded much more engaged and vigorous.
Zoom in: Throughout his testimony, Biden sounded more like a nostalgic, grandfatherly storyteller than a potential defendant who could be accused of hoarding secret papers. He waxed on about:
  • How then-President Obama in 2016 didn't want Biden to run for president out of the belief that Hillary Clinton "had a better shot of winning the presidency than I did."
  • The walnut wood and seven different kinds of molding in refurbished rooms of his home.
  • The Corvette he drove with comedian Jay Leno.
  • The technological influence Gutenberg's printing press had on Europe.
  • The visual impact of Richard Nixon sweating on TV during his 1960 debate with John Kennedy.
  • And the time he shot a bow and arrow in Mongolia.
"Am I making any sense to you?" Biden asked at one point while discussing the classification process for sensitive documents.


Though amiable, the interview became somewhat tense when Biden attorney Bob Bauer chastised prosecutor Krickbaum for leading Biden to consider changing his story about why he kept a classified document about Afghanistan.
  • "Your answer is that you don't know," Bauer instructed the president at one point.
  • But then Krickbaum noted that journalists had written about the document, and he asked if Biden intended to keep it because of its historical value.
  • "I guess I wanted to hang onto it just for posterity's sake," Biden acknowledged.
That admission of intent technically could have exposed Biden to criminal charges, and Bauer soon interjected: "I just really would like to avoid, for the purpose of a clean record, getting into speculative areas.… He does not recall specifically intending to keep this memo after he left the vice presidency."
  • Krickbaum then called for a break.
In another instance, Krickbaum noted that DOJ had a copy of a recording made by Mark Zwonitzer, the ghostwriter of Promise Me, Dad, whom Biden told in 2017, "I just found all the classified stuff downstairs."
  • "So you can imagine we are curious what you meant when you said, 'I just found all the classified stuff downstairs.' " Krickbaum told Biden.
  • "I don't remember," Biden responded. "And I'm not supposed to speculate, right?
  • "Correct," said Bauer, Biden's attorney.
  • "So — OK, well, I don't remember and it may have been — I just don't remember," Biden said.
  • White House counsel Ed Siskel and his deputy, Rachel Cotton, also stepped in occasionally when the then-president was searching for words or dates.
Zoom out: Hur's report concluded that this evidence wasn't enough to persuade a jury to convict Biden — especially given how cooperative Biden had been (unlike Trump in his case) and how likable and forgetful Biden was.
  • "It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president, well into his 80s — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness," Hur concluded.
  • Trump's super PAC, MAGA Inc., promptly accused Biden of being unfit to be president if he weren't fit enough for trial.
Biden's defenders included then-Vice President Harris, who blasted Hur's report and called his comments about Biden's age "gratuitous, inaccurate and inappropriate."
  • "The way that the president's demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more wrong on the facts and clearly politically motivated —gratuitous," Harris said then. ".... We should expect that there would be a higher level of integrity than what we saw."
What they're saying: Biden spokesperson Kelly Scully told Axios: "The transcripts were released by the Biden administration more than a year ago. The audio does nothing but confirm what is already public."
  • Bauer, Siskel, and Hur did not respond to requests for comment.
 
Fuck me I thought this was going to be a really exciting sequel to Ben Hur
In this day and age, a Ben Hur remake would be called Nig Hur.

Also, this isn't surprising. He was gone gone, and had been for a while. It's not even surprising that they were trying so hard to suppress the state of it. It was in their best interest for him to basically be a breathing potato that does whatever they want.

It should be horrifying that he was allowed to be trusted with that much power. But it isn't. Especially the state of the things in the world, especially in the last 10 years or so.
 
To paraphrase Tim Dillon, Jill Biden is a monstrous woman abusing this old dementia patient when he should be on a porch somewhere with a rocking chair.
Biden has wanted to be president for decades, she "abused" him in the same way that I "abuse" my cat with putting stinky cheese in his bowl. Yes, he's clearly miserable as he runs over to eat it all up and snaps at me if I try to take it away.
 
Audio of Special Counsel Interview Adds to Renewed Debate of Biden’s Fitness as President
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Chris Cameron
2025-05-17 03:44:53GMT
A 2023 audio recording of President Joseph R. Biden Jr. speaking haltingly and having memory lapses is the latest in a series of recent disclosures that have reopened a debate over Mr. Biden’s physical and mental fitness while in office and prompted fresh recriminations among Democrats.

The recording, released by the news outlet Axios on Friday night, documents a four-minute portion of Mr. Biden’s interview with Robert K. Hur, a special counsel who investigated his handling of classified information.

Mr. Hur had concluded early last year that “no criminal charges” were warranted in the case. But in clearing the president, Mr. Hur portrayed Mr. Biden as an “elderly man with a poor memory,” based off an hourslong interview with the president, inflaming concerns that Mr. Biden’s fitness for office had significantly declined.

The audio clip did not reveal new exchanges between Mr. Hur and Mr. Biden. But it gives a fuller picture of why Mr. Hur described Mr. Biden as he did, capturing the president’s whispery voice and the long pauses in his speech. Trump administration officials have decided to release the fuller audio, according to two people familiar with the matter, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe the decision, which has yet to be announced.

The audio clip comes as a forthcoming book — written by Jake Tapper of CNN and Alex Thompson of Axios — has provided new details on Mr. Biden’s mental and physical decline and chronicled how Mr. Biden’s advisers stamped out discussion of his age-related limitations. Among other issues, the book recounts Mr. Biden forgetting the names of longtime aides and allies, and outsiders who had not seen the president in some time being shocked at his appearance.

Top Democrats who closed ranks to defend Mr. Biden in his moment of crisis and vouched for his fitness for office have now had to rationalize those statements. In an interview on the “Talk Easy With Sam Fragoso” podcast last month, Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts — who had urged Mr. Biden to remain in the race to the end — visibly struggled not to laugh when the host asked if the president had at the time been “as sharp as you.”

“I said I had not seen decline,” Ms. Warren said, adding that Mr. Biden “was sharp, he was on his feet.”

“Senator, ‘on his feet’ is not praise,” Mr. Fragoso said as Ms. Warren smiled and chuckled. “‘He can speak in sentences’ is not praise.

Ms. Warren replied: “OK, fair enough. Fair enough.”

The new debate recalls one of the Democratic Party’s most painful periods, when Mr. Biden and his allies struggled to right his re-election campaign amid calls by Democratic officials — both in private and in public — to drop out and name a successor.

Those calls erupted after a disastrous debate performance against former President Donald J. Trump that doomed Mr. Biden’s campaign. The president ultimately cleared the way for his running mate, Vice President Kamala Harris, to take his place at the top of the ticket.

The Biden administration had already released a lightly redacted transcript of the interview, but not the audio, asserting executive privilege. A spokeswoman for Mr. Biden said the recording did nothing but confirm what was already public.

In the clip of the October 2023 interview with Mr. Hur, Mr. Biden speaks softly and haltingly as he struggles to recall key dates — such as the death of his son, Beau, from cancer in May 2015. Mr. Hur did not ask specifically about Beau, but Mr. Biden told the special counsel that “in 2017, 2018, that area,” Beau, who had served in the Delaware National Guard and had deployed to Iraq in 2008, had “either been deployed or dying.” Minutes later, the president said that “in 2017, Beau had died.”

The death of Mr. Biden’s son was one of the most emotional moments in Mr. Biden’s life, and Mr. Hur’s assessment that Mr. Biden “did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died,” infuriated the president.

“How in the hell dare he raise that?” Mr. Biden said in a news conference hours after the report was made public, adding, “Frankly, when I was asked the question I thought to myself, it wasn’t any of their damn business.”

In one particularly meandering exchange, Mr. Biden took the better part of a minute — interspersed with several seconds-long pauses — to say that “Beau had passed and — this is personal — the genesis of the book and the title ‘Promise Me Dad’ was a — I know you’re all close with your sons and daughters, but Beau was like my right arm and Hunt was my left,” referring to his son Hunter.

Concerns about Mr. Biden’s lapses persisted through the end of Mr. Biden’s 2024 campaign, growing with each public fumble at a rally or news conference. Even during the news conference denouncing the special prosecutor’s assessment of his memory, Mr. Biden spoke of “the president of Mexico, El-Sisi,” confusing the presidents of Mexico and Egypt in response to a question about negotiations to release hostages held by Hamas.
Audio of 2023 Biden interview with Hur reveals pauses, halting replies
The Washington Post (archive.ph)
By Naftali Bendavid
2025-05-17 02:25:28GMT
An excerpt from the audio recording of a prosecutor’s interview with President Joe Biden in 2023 shows Biden speaking slowly, often with long pauses, as he seeks to mentally assemble a sequence of events including his son Beau’s death, his own departure from the vice presidency and the launch of his book.

The excerpt, obtained by Axios, does not provide new information, since the written transcript of special counsel Robert K. Hur’s interview with Biden was released in March 2024. Hur was investigating allegations that Biden mishandled sensitive documents after he left the vice presidency in 2017.

But the long pauses and the widely meandering nature of the president’s responses, as he seeks to recall events from several years earlier, are striking and flesh out the picture of the high-stakes session.

President Donald Trump, 78, has repeatedly criticized Biden, now 82, as aging and mentally slow, continuing to take multiple shots at his predecessor well into his second term. That raised expectations that Trump would release the audio, something the Biden administration had refused to do. Earlier on Friday, Trump had said it was up to Attorney General Pam Bondi to decide whether and when to release the audio.

Biden spokeswoman Kelly Scully downplayed the release of the audio Friday: “The transcripts were released by the Biden administration more than a year ago. The audio does nothing but confirm what is already public.”

Trump also came under scrutiny for mishandling classified documents after leaving office, though the scale and scope of the allegations against him were much broader.

Special counsel Jack Smith charged Trump in connection with the discovery of hundreds of classified documents that were taken to his home in Florida after he left the White House. A federal judge ruled that Smith lacked jurisdiction; Smith appealed but then dropped the case after Trump was elected to a second term as president.

Questions about Biden’s capacity toward the end of his presidency have reemerged in recent days due to the publication of a book, “Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again,” by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson. It argues that Biden’s aides hid his deteriorating condition from the public, a claim that Biden’s office sharply denies.

The audio excerpt obtained by Axios is a roughly four-minute segment of a much longer interview that took place over two days.

In the excerpt, Hur asks where Biden kept documents for the projects he was working on at that time.

Biden takes a long pause, then replies, “Well, I, I, I, I, I, I don’t know, this is what, 2017, ’18, that area?” He adds, “Remember, in this time frame, my son was either deployed or is dying.” Beau died in 2015.

The president then appears to be searching his mind for exactly what was going on in his life during that period. “What was happening, though — what month did Beau die? Oh god, May 30th. Was it 2015?” Biden says. “ … And what’s happened in the meantime is that … and Trump gets elected in 2017?” Someone reminds Biden that it was 2016.

Biden then begins talking about Beau’s death, with numerous long pauses, either because he is trying to jog his memory or because he is overcome by emotion. The interviews also were taking place on Oct. 8, 2023, and Oct. 9, 2023, immediately after the Hamas attacks on Israel, a horrifying moment that became one of the biggest crises of Biden’s presidency.

“In 2017, Beau had passed and … This is personal …” Biden says. “The genesis of the book was … I know you’re all close with your sons and daughters, but Beau was like my right arm, and Hunter was my left. These guys were a year and a day apart, and they could finish each other’s sentences.”

There are more long pauses, as Biden at this point has wandered relatively far from the initial question about where he stored documents. He begins talking about how he would travel home by train when he was in the Senate, then reiterates how close he was to Beau, prompting Hur to ask, “Sir, I wonder if this is a good time to take a break?”

Biden answers, “No, let me keep going and get it done.”

Although the recording does not include any startling new revelations, it provides a rare, dramatic window into a pivotal historical moment, as a sitting president was being questioned by a special counsel about a politically explosive matter.

Biden’s office in recent days has stressed that, for all the debate about his mental acuity, no allegations have emerged that Biden struggled to make decisions or perform his duties as president.

“We continue to await anything that shows where Joe Biden had to make a presidential decision or where national security was threatened or where he was unable to do his job,” a spokesperson said this week. “In fact, the evidence points to the opposite — he was a very effective president.”

In early 2024, Hur decided against filing charges of mishandling classified documents. He said his reasoning, in part, was that jurors would be unlikely to convict Biden because they would see him as a “well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.”

Democrats erupted in fury, saying Hur’s characterization was a gratuitous slap. At the time, Biden was the likely Democratic nominee for president, and Hur’s comment played into Republican assertions that he was not up to serving four more years.

Biden has often struggled with words and been given to gaffes throughout his half-century public career, and his supporters argued that his occasional slurs or verbal miscues were irrelevant to his mental abilities. Biden pushed ahead with his campaign until last summer, when a stumbling debate performance against Trump reignited the concerns about his age and prompted him to withdraw from the race.

In recent days, amid the publication of the book and a pair of television appearances by Biden, a growing number of Democrats have been revisiting their handling of the last presidential election and saying publicly that it was poorly managed.

Biden’s late withdrawal from the 2024 race prevented other major figures from jumping in, and it gave Vice President Kamala Harris a sharply condensed time frame for introducing herself as the nominee and making her case to voters.
Audio emerges of Joe Biden’s damaging interview with Robert Hur
Politico (archive.ph)
By Adam Wren and Dasha Burns
2025-05-16 20:24:00GMT
Audio of former President Joe Biden’s interview with special counsel Robert Hur got its first public airing Friday, fueling lingering questions about his mental acuity in his final year in the White House.

Portions of the audio were published by the news site Axios, with Biden occasionally pausing for extended periods or struggling to recall dates in ways familiar to anyone who heard the aging former president speak in recent years.

The transcript of the 2024 interview, which was conducted as part of an investigation into Biden’s handling of classified documents, has been out for more than a year. Still, the release of audio is likely to generate more attention to the former president’s cognitive condition at the end of his term, the subject of a new book and increasing finger-pointing in Democratic circles.

POLITICO first reported on May 7 that the administration intended to release the audio, but the material was under the control of the Justice Department, and Trump said Friday that White House was not directly involved in handling the disclosure.

“I haven’t looked into that. That’s up to Pam and the group,” he told reporters aboard Air Force One as he returned from the Middle East, referring to Attorney General Pam Bondi.

Hours later, POLITICO reported that the Trump administration was preparing to release the audio to Axios, according to three people familiar with discussions surrounding the audio’s release.

The White House and Justice Department did not immediately respond to a request to comment on the audio, which had not yet been released to other media.

A Biden spokesperson downplayed the significance of the audio’s release.

“The transcripts were released by the Biden administration more than a year ago,” Biden spokesperson Kelly Scully said. “The audio does nothing but confirm what is already public.”

The audio’s disclosure comes days before the release of “Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again,” the book by CNN’s Jake Tapper and Axios’ Alex Thompson. Thompson was one of two authors on the Axios report Friday on the audio.

The audio fed into ongoing Republican efforts to portray Biden as mentally unfit for the presidency at the end of his term and to allege that Democrats hid that fact from the public. “Coverup of the century,” Tennessee Rep. Andy Ogles said in a social media post on X. “Reminder: this is the same guy who had the nuclear codes.”

Various news organizations as well as conservative groups like Judicial Watch and the Heritage Foundation had filed Freedom of Information Act lawsuits in the case. The former president last year asserted executive privilege to prevent the disclosure of the audio. His Justice Department claimed the disclosure would have a chilling effect on witnesses cooperating in high-profile investigations.

Hur concluded in his report last year that he would not bring criminal charges against Biden. The former president said at the time that he did not break the law in his handling of classified documents and insisted his “memory is fine.”

Hur’s investigation drew comparisons to what transpired a year earlier with Trump, who was charged with illegally hoarding classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida and with obstructing the government’s efforts to recover them.

Trump didn’t speak to investigators in that case, which prosecutors dropped after he was elected president.
Biden audio release pressures Democrats who would rather talk about Trump
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Jonathan J. Cooper
2025-05-17 00:09:15GMT
PHOENIX (AP) — Joe Biden’s time in public office is now behind him, but his age and mental acuity have become a litmus test for the next leaders in his party.

Audio was published Friday from portions of interviews Biden gave to federal prosecutors in 2023, the latest in a stream of reports putting questions about Biden’s health back in the spotlight. Months after former President Kamala Harris lost to President Donald Trump, a new book alleges that White House aides covered up Biden’s physical and mental decline.

Several potential Democratic contenders for the 2028 nomination have been asked in recent days whether they believe Biden was declining in office or whether he should have sought reelection before a disastrous debate performance led to his withdrawal.

Many Democrats would prefer to focus on Trump’s second term. Trump has done his best to prevent that — mentioning Biden’s name an average of six times per day during his first 100 days in office, according to an NBC News analysis — and Republicans have followed his lead, betting that voters frustrated by Trump’s policy moves will still prefer him over memories of an unpopular presidency.

In the race for Virginia governor, one of this year’s highest-profile contests, Republican Winsome Earle-Sears is running a pair of digital ads tying Democrat Abigail Spanberger to Biden, with images of the two hugging and the former president calling her a friend.

“The stench of Joe Biden still lingers on the Democratic Party,” Democratic strategist Sawyer Hackett said. “We have to do the hard work of fixing that, and I think that includes telling the truth, frankly, about when we were wrong.”

Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut told Politico this week that “there’s no doubt” that Biden, now 82, experienced cognitive decline as president.

Pete Buttigieg, the former transportation secretary, wasn’t nearly as blunt but still stopped short of defending Biden’s decision to run. He responded “maybe” when asked Tuesday whether the Democratic Party would have been better off if Biden hadn’t tried to run for a second term.

“Right now, with the advantage of hindsight, I think most people would agree that that’s the case,” Buttigieg told reporters during a stop in Iowa.

Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker said he didn’t see signs of mental or physical decline in his meetings with Biden.

“I saw him a few times,” he told CNN this week. “I certainly went to the White House whenever there was an opportunity for me to make the case for something for people in my state. And I never had the experience of anything other than a guy who brought to the table a lot of good ideas about how to solve problems.”

The book “Original Sin,” by journalists Jake Tapper of CNN and Alex Thompson of Axios, revives a core controversy of Biden’s presidency: his decision to run for a second term despite voters, including Democrats, telling pollsters that he should not run again. Biden would have been 86 at the end of a second term had he won in November.

A spokesperson for Biden did not respond to a request for comment.

“We continue to await anything that shows where Joe Biden had to make a presidential decision or where national security was threatened or where he was unable to do his job,” the spokesperson has told many media outlets in response to the book.

Late Friday, Axios published portions from audio recordings of Biden’s six hours of interviews with prosecutors investigating his handling of classified documents after his term as vice president ended in 2017.

The Biden administration had already released transcripts of the interviews, but the recordings shed light on special counsel Robert Hur’s characterization of Biden as “a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory” and appeared to validate his claim that the then-president struggled to recall key dates, including the year his son Beau died of cancer in 2015.

Biden and his aides pushed back aggressively against Hur’s report, which they characterized as a partisan hit. Biden was at that time — early 2024 — still planning to run for a second term and fending off accusations that he was too old for another four years in the job.

The recordings released by Axios include Biden’s discussion of his son’s death. His responses to some of the prosecutors’ questions are punctuated by long pauses, and his lawyers at times stepped in to help him recall dates and timelines.

Before he dropped his reelection bid last summer, Biden faced widespread doubts within his own party, even as Democratic leaders dismissed both a series of verbal flubs and Republican allegations about his declining acuity.

In January 2022, just a year into Biden’s first term, an AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll found that only 48% of Democrats wanted him to seek reelection. That fell to 37% of Democrats in an AP-NORC poll conducted in February 2023. Three-quarters of Americans — and 69% of Democrats — said in August 2023 that they believed Biden was too old to serve as president for another four-year term.

And shortly after his debate flop, nearly two-thirds of Democrats said Biden should withdraw from the race.

Biden and former first lady Jill Biden appeared on ABC’s “The View” in a preemptive defense of his health and decision-making before the first excerpts of “Original Sin” were published.

He said he’s responsible for Trump’s victory but attributed Harris’ loss, at least in part, to sexism and racism. He maintained that he would have won had he remained the Democratic nominee. Both Bidens rejected concerns about his cognitive decline.

Patricia McEnerney, a 74-year-old Democrat in Goodyear, Arizona, said Biden should not have tried to run again.

“I think it’s sad the way it ended,” she said.

She compared him to Douglas MacArthur, the World War II and Korean War general famously dismissed by President Harry Truman.

“I think he needs to stop giving interviews. I think that would help,” McEnerney said. “Like MacArthur said, generals just fade away.”

Janet Stumps, a 66-year-old Democrat also from Goodyear, a Phoenix suburb, had a different view.

“I don’t think it’s going to hurt the Democrats,” Stumps said. “I feel badly that he feels he has to defend himself. I don’t think he has to. Everybody ages. And the fact that he did what he did at his age, I think he should be commended for it.”

Hackett, the Democratic strategist, predicted Biden won’t be a major factor in the 2026 midterms or the 2028 presidential primaries. But he said Democrats who want voters to trust them would be well-served “by telling the truth about the mistakes that our party made in the run-up to 2024.”

“Those mistakes were largely driven by Joe Biden, and I think any Democrat not willing to say that is not really prepared to face the voters, who want the truth and they want authenticity,” Hackett said.

Rick Wilson, a former GOP strategist who co-founded the anti-Trump group the Lincoln Project, said Republicans want to talk about Biden to avoid defending Trump. But he said the strategy is folly.

Besides “political nerds,” he said, “no one else cares.”

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This story has been corrected to show the ads linking Spanberger and Biden are digital ads, not television ads.

edit: The day started out with the media all focused on the new book 'Original Sin' and I'm sure these interviews were dropped today for maximum effect in conjunction with that:
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/democr...eing-asked-about-bidens-mental-acuity.219745/
 
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The endless gaslighting... he was senile going into the 2020 election. Could barely do events. Took advantage of COVID and just hid away through the campaign. Absurd how many years we had to watch them pretend. They're still pretending!
The Democrats (and Democrat-aligned media) really doomed the Democratic party for the immediate future, due to their "Weekend at Bernies"-style propping up of an obviously far-gone Biden. I'm young and everyone I know, Conservative or Liberal, is disgusted by the Democratic party for what they did during Biden's term.
Biden-Hur is a better idea for a movie than the latest Hollywood bullshit.
How would that work? Biden would immediately fall from the chariot.
 
In my opinion, this is the worst gaslighting ever perpetrated on the American people. This poor man was never up to doing the job of President. One day we will find out just who was pulling all the strings, and if there is any to have these people charged they need to be charged and face justice. In their desire for power, the Dems/deep state/mainstream media deliberately and knowingly put our country and our people in danger. This is worse, and worse for an extended period, than anything President Trump has done or has been alleged to have done. This is a crime, pure and simple.
 
To paraphrase Tim Dillon, Jill Biden is a monstrous woman abusing this old dementia patient when he should be on a porch somewhere with a rocking chair.
He should be on his lake front property in Hell. Fuck Biden.

Of course you're right about this being obvious elder abuse of someone in severe cognitive decline. That said, again, fuck Biden.

Edit: Typo
 
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