Apple joins push for kids’ online safety law

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A sweeping kids’ online safety bill has new life — and a powerful new ally.

On Wednesday, senators from both parties reintroduced the Kids Online Safety Act, or KOSA. The bill would hold social media companies responsible for taking “reasonable” care to avoid product design features that put minors in danger of self-harm, substance abuse or sexual exploitation. It also would require online platforms to activate their strongest privacy settings by default for minors and allow them to disable “addictive” product features.


KOSA passed the Senate last year by a 91-3 vote, a level of bipartisan support that’s rare these days. It died in the House, however, amid a Big Tech lobbying push and concerns by Republican leadership and digital-rights groups that it would lead to censorship.

This time around, the bill’s authors have lined up a big-name industry backer.

Sens. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tennessee) and Richard Blumenthal (D-Connecticut), who first introduced KOSA in 2022, announced on Wednesday that they’ve gained Apple’s support for this version of the bill.

“Everyone has a part to play in keeping kids safe online, and we believe your legislation will have a meaningful impact on children’s online safety,” Apple’s senior director for government affairs, Timothy Powderly, wrote in a letter to Blackburn and Blumenthal. He added that Apple hopes the bill represents “the first steps toward comprehensive privacy legislation” that would protect adults’ online privacy as well.


The reintroduced bill’s text is the same as the version that was amended in December in a last-ditch bid to ease the right’s censorship concerns.

Apple’s support comes as Congress and several states are eyeing age-verification laws that would put the onus on Apple and Google to identify minors online.

Apple might view KOSA, which does not mandate age verification, as a more palatable approach than those state measures when it comes to protecting young users. On Thursday, an Apple spokesperson pointed to Apple’s own recent “age assurance” proposal and reiterated a point in Powderly’s letter that suggested the company’s support was due to changes made to the bill last year to enhance privacy protections.

Microsoft, Snap and Elon Musk’s X are among the other tech firms that have previously backed the bill, with Musk’s support considered especially noteworthy due to his influence with the Republican Party’s right wing. On the other side, platform giants Meta and Google, as well as the trade group NetChoice, have opposed it.


So far, the tech companies opposing the bill have fought a lot harder than the ones supporting it.

KOSA has a real chance to pass, but a long way to go.

The reintroduced bill has the support of Senate leadership: Majority Leader John Thune (R-South Dakota) and Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-New York). That gives it a strong chance to pass the Senate again.

But the House once again may pose obstacles. Last year, it fell short due in part to a lack of support from a pair of powerful Louisiana Republicans: House Speaker Mike Johnson and House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, who said they worried the bill would lead to online censorship. The Wall Street Journal reported in November that platform giants Meta and Google had led a lobbying blitz that helped torpedo KOSA’s chances.

NetChoice was quick to blast the bill’s reintroduction Wednesday, issuing a statement that called it “landmark censorship legislation” that would establish a “speech code for the internet.”


Staffers familiar with the bill told the Tech Brief they’re cautiously optimistic that the results will be different this time.

The staff members, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly discuss sensitive political ramifications, cited several factors they believe could work in their favor beyond Apple’s support.

Among them is new leadership on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, whose chairman, Rep. Brett Guthrie (R-Kentucky), has expressed interest in bills to protect kids online.

They also believe time is on their side, with fresh reports of online harms to kids intensifying the pressure from advocates on Congress to act. Blackburn and Blumenthal pointed to recent reports that Meta’s chatbots talked sex with kids and Instagram’s recommendations helped sexual predators find minors on the platform.

The passage last month of the Take It Down Act, which criminalizes nonconsensual intimate imagery online and requires online platforms to quickly remove it, suggested that there is a bipartisan coalition in this Congress for such legislation. That bill had an influential champion in first lady Melania Trump, who has not yet taken a position on KOSA.


The bill’s reintroduction prompted an outpouring of support Wednesday from child safety advocates.

Blackburn and Blumenthal included statements from numerous parents of teenagers who have died or taken their own lives after being scammed, bullied, offered drugs or enticed by dangerous viral “challenges” on social media platforms.

“It’s been more than four years since I lost my son, Riley, to suicide when he was only 15 years old after a sinister stranger found him on Facebook and sextorted him,” said Riley Basford’s mother, Mary Rodee. “One of the few ways I’ve found to cope since then is to advocate for social media reforms that will protect other children from the abuse Riley experienced.”

Alix Fraser of the advocacy group Issue One said, “History is watching, and it won’t judge this Congress kindly if they prioritize protecting Big Tech companies’ profit margins above the children that are our country’s future.”


Kris Perry, executive director of the nonprofit Children and Screens, said KOSA is backed by mounting scientific evidence of the “profound impact of digital environments on children’s mental health, sleep, cognitive development and overall well-being.”

Still, conservatives and tech giants aren’t the only ones with qualms.

A previous version of KOSA ran into opposition from civil rights organizations, who feared it would be weaponized to silence LGBTQ+ teens and other marginalized groups online. Changes to the bill in 2024 persuaded some of those groups, including GLAAD, to rescind their opposition.

But some free-speech advocates still say KOSA would give the federal government too much power to pressure online platforms into censoring disfavored views. And while the bill aims to skirt First Amendment issues by holding tech companies responsible for “design features” rather than content, some legal experts are skeptical of the distinction.


“Trump has made it clear he intends to weaponize every government agency under his command to target speech that he does not like, whether it’s about abortion, trans rights or the war in Gaza,” said Evan Greer, director of the digital rights group Fight for the Future. Greer said KOSA will give his administration a new way to go after groups that use online platforms to provide resources for abortion or support LGBTQ communities.
 
Wouldn't it be easier if parents just limited and monitored their children's online use? That's what we did when we were kids.
This but it's actually harder than back our day. In our day, assuming you mean 90s-early 2000s, the internet wasn't everywhere. It wasn't in your phone, it wasn't on a tablet and hell it wasn't even on your video games reliably, even in the early 2000s. The internet was it's own separate thing, locked away on the computer. But you can't escape it, it's on everything, it's required for almost everything.

Alright so fuck that then. Make your kids play outside, ride their bikes a bit but OOPS apparently a kid riding their bike around is enough to have some faggot call the cops:https://reason.com/2024/07/10/cops-called-on-8-year-old-child-for-being-outside/

Ok whatever, lets hang out at the mall for a few hours. Window, grab a nice treat at the food court, talk, have some fun. Oh wait not oops some tiktok faggot annouced he was gonna be at a mall and 3,000 chimps showed up and started a massive brawl, a gun might have gone off and now everybody is running for their fucking lives: https://people.com/multiple-minors-...-over-300-youth-broke-out-at-nj-mall-11737190

The world is fucked. The childhood we had is never coming back.
 
The bill would hold social media companies responsible for taking “reasonable” care to avoid product design features that put minors in danger of self-harm, substance abuse or sexual exploitation.
I dunno what that means... the ability to chat with other users? I feel like it will be interpreted too expansively while somehow not getting rid of danger to children.
“It’s been more than four years since I lost my son, Riley, to suicide when he was only 15 years old after a sinister stranger found him on Facebook and sextorted him,” said Riley Basford’s mother, Mary Rodee. “One of the few ways I’ve found to cope since then is to advocate for social media reforms that will protect other children from the abuse Riley experienced.”
That's an unfortunate coping method because your situation is unusual while the Internet is used by billions. There are probably other risk factors more worth looking at.
 
Wouldn't it be easier if parents just limited and monitored their children's online use?
You can't replace parenting with the government. The only way to keep your kids "safe" online is to not allow them to go online in the first place
I don’t disagree but this shit is the modern day equivalent of the latch key kid epidemic. Parental control tools are everywhere but parents are too lazy to use them. I think this was inevitable from the sheer amount of people neglecting their kids in this way. It’s dumb but what can we do?

The seeds for this type of censorship have already been planted. May I remind you all of the U.S. immigration using artificial intelligence to check the social media posts of migrants and visa applicants for antisemitism? https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news...aliens-social-media-activity-for-antisemitism

They tried passing an antisemitism awareness bill that would’ve also be ofcom level shit but it died in the senate.
 
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a law that gives arbitrary people the federal legal right to force internet sites to take down content will never be used maliciously. and it will definitely never be used against kiwi farms, a site that constantly has fake reports filed against it

- an idiot
My issue is that they already do shit to knock out sites like KF and the rest of the morons just stand their going "good. There's no place for hate"

This is what they want, let them enjoy it when it goes after the stuff they enjoy. Maybe then it have such a disastrous effect that they will go in the opposite direction and go the way of prohibition.
 
This but it's actually harder than back our day. In our day, assuming you mean 90s-early 2000s, the internet wasn't everywhere. It wasn't in your phone, it wasn't on a tablet and hell it wasn't even on your video games reliably, even in the early 2000s. The internet was it's own separate thing, locked away on the computer. But you can't escape it, it's on everything, it's required for almost everything.

Alright so fuck that then. Make your kids play outside, ride their bikes a bit but OOPS apparently a kid riding their bike around is enough to have some faggot call the cops:https://reason.com/2024/07/10/cops-called-on-8-year-old-child-for-being-outside/

Ok whatever, lets hang out at the mall for a few hours. Window, grab a nice treat at the food court, talk, have some fun. Oh wait not oops some tiktok faggot annouced he was gonna be at a mall and 3,000 chimps showed up and started a massive brawl, a gun might have gone off and now everybody is running for their fucking lives: https://people.com/multiple-minors-...-over-300-youth-broke-out-at-nj-mall-11737190

The world is fucked. The childhood we had is never coming back.
I remember the convo of a friend's son going to sleepover at someone's house came up and I was like "Well that's pretty normal right? my friends and I did that from like age 5 to 18 every weekend rotating whose house we stayed at we just made sure our parents knew each other and knew where everyone was" and you would think I said the 14 words cause people starting talking about pedos and how dangerous it is to just let your kid sleep over at someones house and I was just like "uh ya that's why you get to know their parents" but it was like an unknown thing.

The life of kids and teens are so fucked now it makes me feel bad imagine not going over to a friends house to build forts and go play in the open field out back fighting with some sticks then just do whatever the fuck you wanted cause you were a kid and not stare at some phone screen cause it's all you have to do especially post kung flu lockdown shit.
 
My issue is that they already do shit to knock out sites like KF and the rest of the morons just stand their going "good. There's no place for hate"
Maybe given the way the western world is going, maybe there is a place for hate after all. It's just that there wasn't such a concerted effort to fuck up the world with infinity browns, nor was there any real concerted effort to censor the internet that proved successful until the chink flu came along and everyone had to STAY INDOORS TO STOP THE SPREAD and certainly don't question where it came from or why.

Even the faggots on Reddit used to recoil in horror at something like this, all it took was a globalist WEF globalhomo dick up their ass to force them to do a seal clap and voraciously cheer for the death of any sort of free expression on the internet. Fucking retards.
 
I don’t disagree but this shit is the modern day equivalent of the latch key kid epidemic. Parental control tools are everywhere but parents are too lazy to use them. I think this was inevitable from the sheer amount of people neglecting their kids in this way. It’s dumb but what can we do?
We bring back 90's PSAs but we make them about Discord and Reddit instead.
 
I mean. Highways are government regulated and policed. Why shouldn't the information superhighway?

Frankly, I can't wait until all websites wishing to use a DNS service for resolving in the USA have to submit to daily inspections by a federal AI engine to ensure all architectures and content meets child safety, sexual decency and social morals standards created by a Senate subcommittee. After all... think of the children.

you clearly haven't met Johnny Bravo, a proud neo-con user of this site.

hell two weeks ago most of the users here had a porn debate while forgetting about the whole fact that all of Destiny's revenge porn is hosted here. Only Lidl called out how much revenge porn is on this site

Some folks see that pedestal and can't help but climb on it for the moral high ground, regardless if it's in their best interests.
 
“It’s been more than four years since I lost my son, Riley, to suicide when he was only 15 years old after a sinister stranger found him on Facebook and sextorted him,” said Riley Basford’s mother, Mary Rodee. “One of the few ways I’ve found to cope since then is to advocate for social media reforms that will protect other children from the abuse Riley experienced.”
American parent take responsibility for your child's behavior instead of blaming a faceless corporation challenge: impossible
a law that gives arbitrary people the federal legal right to force internet sites to take down content will never be used maliciously. and it will definitely never be used against kiwi farms, a site that constantly has fake reports filed against it

- an idiot
There was like a dozen of them in USPG just a couple of weeks ago doing this exact bit, going on this long moralizing rants about how anyone concerned about how these laws get used for censorship "just don't want to do anything about the problem" and basically raving against strawman points they invented in their head instead of actually addressing any of the arguments against laws exactly like this. It was insanely gay and retarded.

This is what they want, let them enjoy it when it goes after the stuff they enjoy. Maybe then it have such a disastrous effect that they will go in the opposite direction and go the way of prohibition.
We're not talking about normal people who have emotions like guilt or shame, we're talking about repulsive obnoxious freaks who will never leave you alone and will infiltrate everything you love and pull every lever of power they have at their disposal against you. They hate themselves and only feel alive when they're controlling you or ruining something you love. Every one of them still in and position of influence or power is just weathering the next 4 years as best they can so they can go back to business as usual.
 
don't give them an out, they're not paying attention because they go "this is to protect kids? fine by me" and move on, even @Slav Power can see that places such as this site that would be fighting aganist this shit are now more likely to go "only a pedo would hate these laws" and instead go after the people trying to stop these laws

as @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST has noted, people are way too quick to use pedo against everyone, look how quickly Toji got the red strikethrough for being a pedo only for it to magically vanish a week later because even the admitn realized he was getting too quick with calling people nonces.

They're going to censor the entire internet to thunderous applause and suspicion thrown at anyone not cheering it on.
I don't really know what any of that has to do with this article, but I believe A&H has an unfortunate influx of tardcaths who mingle well with the site's Cybergirlz demographic because they're both really, really far up the horse shoe. Both are also hard-countered by this picture:
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I got whacked a few weeks ago (or whenever that was) by the site's Soyjak diaspora for suggesting people ought to mock lolicons but also acknowledge the things lolicons obsess over are just drawings. If you let sensationalists and moralizers start to dictate the internet, it's going to turn into shit very quickly.
 
Frankly, I can't wait until all websites wishing to use a DNS service for resolving in the USA have to submit to daily inspections by a federal AI engine to ensure all architectures and content meets child safety, sexual decency and social morals standards created by a Senate subcommittee. After all... think of the children.
You give politicians too much credit. They will outsource those standards to some shadowy regulatory body, which will then tyrannize the Internet forever with zero accountability. That's how things work in the U.S. government.
 
We truly are going beyond retardation now.
If they gave a single shit about kids, then why wont they just make it a law children under a certain age cannot use the Internet? Or you know, at least without an adult present to help operate it?

No, that would be too logical.
we should, but how do you enforce that without a system to verify the person online is really the age they say they are? everyone lied about their age online growing up.

This is the problem with this discussion, everyone knows what's been happening with kids online is fucked and can't continue the way it has. Ideally parents would be more attentive to what their kids are doing but that's much easier said than done and not realistic with how busy people are and how ubiquitous the internet is now. Kids are dumb, they're sneaky and they lie, even good parents aren't able to helicopter their kids 24/7.

The only realistic option to actually have a solution to this problem would have to come through legislation but that comes with it's own set of major risks and legitimate fears of it being used as a trojan horse by a political class that clearly hates it's own people.
 
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Any sort of policy/law couched in save the kids language is always going to put the boot on your neck, full stop.

Nevertheless, it is indeed a huge problem that parents seemingly can't be arsed to regulate directly, so how about a compromise?

The internet stays the way it is, but if your kid gets pulled into any sort of fucked up shit online because you weren't safeguarding them enough, you eat a charge too. Like how they do for unsecured guns that kids fuck around and find out with. Slap any adult who was/should be in charge of them at the time with endangerment or whatever, be it a babysitter/friend's parent they're staying with/teacher, etc.

Maybe that'd teach people to stop being so blasé about child safety online?
 
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