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Yamataya v. Fisher and Shaughnessy v. United States ex rel. Mezei
Neither of those cases have anything do with the federal government's ability to revoke VISAs. Both of those cases dealt with deportation procedures... not the legality of the executive branch to reject VISAs.
 
What do you think a custodian is buddy? The janitor?
Got me, but read it. Habeas Corpus really is just 1 government entity proving to another government enity they have the right to hold someone as a prisoner

Seems to be to be one of those 18-19th century type laws where 1 towns sherrif is demanding of another township the right to be able to hold someone for an alleged crime and Habeas Corpus was the "case law" they used to determine such a thing

In the age of computerized records such a dispute could be resolved with an email
 
Yamataya v. Fisher and Shaughnessy v. United States ex rel. Mezei
It doesn't matter whether the courts say otherwise. It was overridden by both other branches of government and the Supreme Court that lower courts cannot stop deportations. Nobody can stop deportations. Their due process is ICE does their thing and they can deport whomever they want, whenever they want, as long as that person isn't a citizen.

Sorry, but Abrego Garcia and all the other illegals got their "due process". It doesn't matter whether you agree with it or not, that was the law and it was established that way for over 50 years now. If you want to argue these laws are morally wrong, go for it. But you have no legal leg to stand on. The Constitution only promises due process and they got due process. It doesn't say what due process means.
 
America needs to stop being the world police. If we want to give White South Africans refugee status, by all means. An invasion of South Africa would only turn out like Afghanistan because we have too many bleeding hearts, and grifters. Who are more concerned about educating savages, and ripping off the taxpayer than winning any war. No war, no more dead America White Men.
I’ll die in the dirt in the middle of nowhere if I can legit end Mexican cartels and South Africans.

It would be the funniest future I could ever imagine. The only thing that would make me enlist faster as cannon fodder would be war against India and Venezuela.
 
BRICS is basically just a coalition formed by necessity for the countries involved to have an alternative in case they get cut off from the dollar. They don't actually like each other and they certainly don't want to have to rely on fake Chinese money.
India and China are part of BRICS so next meetings gonna be awkward as hell with Poojeet King Modi and Xi.

Chinese jets and missiles were what kneecapped the Indian air force. BRICS is just major non-western nations.

The Saudis are in it too, but I suspect its just so they can put two hands in the cookie jar. Not a bad strategy.
 
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It doesn't matter whether the courts say otherwise. It was overridden by both other branches of government and the Supreme Court that lower courts cannot stop deportations. Nobody can stop deportations. Their due process is ICE does their thing and they can deport whomever they want, whenever they want, as long as that person isn't a citizen.
None of the cases he cited had anything to do with the executive branch's authority to reject VISAs. Yamataya v. Fisher simply stated Congress controls deportation procedures, and Shaughnessy v. United States ex rel. Mezei established that yeah the federal government can deport illegal immigrants based on their political views because Congress gave the president that authority. In fact, Bouarfa v. Mayorka would be consistent with those rules since the executive branch is following the statutory power Congress gave them. He's just trolling at this point.
 
Having a Student Visa to come here and study is a privilege. Not a RIGHT. You do NOT have a right to be a shit stirrer. There's literal video evidence of these pro Palestine faggots being a bunch of obnoxious fucking twats and actually preventing students from attending class. You start doing that shit? Nah. You're gone. This isn't a "first amendment" issue. It becomes a literal SAFETY issue. Students on Visas do NOT, I repeat, they do NOT have the same rights and protections as an actual fucking citizen of this country. Your "right" to be here can (and will) be revoked at any time, for any reason if you're doing dumb retarded shit instead of doing what you're actually supposed to be doing.
 
Mmm the law matters until it doesn’t because it’s old and was written before computers. Why do you care about unfair trial libtard.
Illegal immigrants do not get trials and they never, ever have.

The only time an illegal alien gets a hearing is if they have an issue with a visa or have an issue with asylum applications. They don't even get a single hearing otherwise. Their hearing is with the ICE officer that detains them and that's it. The idea that any illegal immigrants ever got trials is a complete mainstream media Psyop that they have been employing to dupe stupid people into thinking that somehow Obama was Deporter In Chief while simultaneously giving the hundreds of thousands illegals that he deported trials and Trump wasn't. Kristi Noem even had an interview, several, where she flat out says that the MSM is lying about illegals receiving trials to fool morons.
 
Mmm the law matters until it doesn’t because it’s old and was written before computers. Why do you care about unfair trial libtard.
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Justice Harlan gave the opinion of the court and dismissed Yamataya's appeal. The Supreme Court upheld the law although it had no explicit provisions for due process. The Court did not discuss whether the exclusion and deportation of a certain class of immigrants violated any constitutional rights. Justice Harlan wrote that an act of Congress "must be taken to be constitutional unless the contrary plainly and palpably appears."

The Supreme Court also held that the appeals process under the law was constitutional. While the appeals process was not reviewable by the courts, the Court found that the immigration law still provided sufficient trial and appellate tribunals. It agreed with the government's assertion of administrative competency by holding that the investigations and actions of the executive offices in the deportation process were not "subject to judicial review."

Additionally, the Supreme Court upheld Yamataya's deportation and ruled that the deportation hearings met Fifth Amendment due process rights, as the executive hearing was found to have been in front of immigration agents and to meet the standard of due process

The above is a summation of Yamataya v. Fisher. Please note that it completely and utterly contradicts your position. Have a nice day, troll.
 
None of the cases he cited had anything to do with the executive branch's authority to reject VISAs. Yamataya v. Fisher simply stated Congress controls deportation procedures, and Shaughnessy v. United States ex rel. Mezei established that yeah the federal government can deport illegal immigrants based on their political views because Congress gave the president that authority. In fact, Bouarfa v. Mayorka would be consistent with those rules since the executive branch is following the statutory power Congress gave them. He's just trolling at this point.
Why the fuck are you all-capping the word "visa"?
 
Having a Student Visa to come here and study is a privilege. Not a RIGHT. You do NOT have a right to be a shit stirrer. Students on Visas do NOT, I repeat, they do NOT have the same rights and protections as an actual fucking citizen of this country.
When you apply for a student visa, there is a provision that you have to sign and agree to specifically saying that you are not allowed to protest ANYTHING. You, as a student, sign and agree specifically not to protest or criticize the policy of the US government when you enter this country. All of the students on visas protesting can, could, and should have their visas revoked.
 
I would happily send young white men and niggers alongside them to fight and die to save my fellow whites. It would be the first just war the US has fought in a century.
Sorry man I don't want a race war. Unless they're putting Boers in camps I don't want to hear it. Any intervention in SA will just enflame tensions back home too much for it to be worth it.
This is probably what the battlefield would look like btw.
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Could you imagine fighting an insurgency here?
Jesus Christ, that would be horrid.
 
Only thing that would have been better is Trump noticing how South Africa has turned to shit definitely from 30 years ago, but even 15 years ago.

"We're having the world cup soon here, very big, and you had the world cup there 15 years ago with those annoying, nasty sounding trumpets. You had those annoying trumpets but you still had decent roads but now you have no roads, you have crime everywhere, you're killing white people who can fix these things. I saw the video of the two women, black women, fat black women, and they were scooping up water in the street only to dump it out 20 feet away into the ocean because the broken roads have water everywhere. Lethal Weapon 2, great movie, bad guys, but functional country."
 
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