Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[not william stenchever]

The judges have to realize that allowing this trainwreck to go to trial is not at all in their interests as there's already so much that could be used to appeal this mess.

The judges should just give in, dismiss the case, and take the appeals court calling them naughty boys in stride. If they let this continue it's only going to get worse.

 

[I Shidded I Farded I Came]

I am just wondering did Hardin actually ever find out if Steve Taylor was dead. I ask as when we first heard the name it was assumed to be fake name. Hardin went looking for him and could not find him. When Rusty was called out on this he said O he is dead. So are we just going off the word of a lying, liar who lies? Or did we ever get confirmation of this?

Long since confirmed. Hardin probably knew before Russel did. He was found after Null asked about him in January(?). People argued about whether they had found the right guy since he was dead months before Russ named him and he cant be THAT stupid...right? It was basically confirmed when the dead man was spotted in one of Russ' videos. Then later 100% confirmed by Russ himself.

 

[Sneed Force One]

I’m still stunned that Russ claimed Steve Taylor, witness for the plaintiff, was eager to testify, without even speaking to him first to validate that statement, or checking whether he’s even FUCKING ALIVE.

 

[Kosher Dill]

The judges should just give in, dismiss the case, and take the appeals court calling them naughty boys in stride.

I doubt the appeals court would even care unless the dismissal was specifically for failure to state a claim.

 

[HackerX]

I’m still stunned that Russ claimed Steve Taylor, witness for the plaintiff, was eager to testify, without even speaking to him first to validate that statement, or checking whether he’s even FUCKING ALIVE.

I'm not. He was spraying and praying for the 'undo the thing that already happened ' motion and it's not like researches facts in the first place. He'd rather continue plightsperging. Fortunately, the magistrate judge is starting to get on to him about needing to provide legal reasoning instead of just treating it as a blog for his plights and hardships.

I'm actually very curious of how the judge is going to consider that issue though. Russ's three witnesses were the only reason the case transferred back to Utah. The best possible interpretation is that Russ listed Steve Taylor based off a discussion several years ago and never followed up to verify if he was still interested, or even alive. Then the other two, who were likely listed in a similar manner, were removed as soon as Russ learned that meant they were open to questioning from Hardin.

That last part still trips me up. I'm not sure if Russ genuinely didn't know Hardin was within his right, much less basically expected to, contact them or if Russ never notified them they were witnesses in the lawsuit. My bet is the latter. It tracks with his history of interpreting "yeah, sure, okay. Let me know when you have more info" as signed, sealed, and delivered assurances.

 

[Bogliacci]

I'm not sure if Russ genuinely didn't know Hardin was within his right, much less basically expected to, contact them or if Russ never notified them they were witnesses in the lawsuit.

Im sure they were asked by him if they'd testify on if they saw him sperging about kiwifarms and trolls back in 2020, but weren't expecting anything beyond that. AND that Russ had no idea they'd be subpoenaed.

 

[obsdj]

AND that Russ had no idea they'd be subpoenaed.

That part is still one of the most mind-boggling things in this case. The fact that he literally thought his dad and brother were HIS witnesses only, like "Hey! Those are MY witnesses! How DARE you try to depose them!" How do you paralegal without knowing how witnesses work? They had JUST talked about depositions and interrogatories in the scheduling conference a month prior, too. The judge had painstakingly gone over the whole thing with both Greer and Hardin.

 

[Hungry Fox]

How do you paralegal without knowing how witnesses work?

He does know, he just lies constantly and people let him get away with it out of pity for his gimpy mushmouth retard face.

 

[HackerX]

That part is still one of the most mind-boggling things in this case. The fact that he literally thought his dad and brother were HIS witnesses only, like "Hey! Those are MY witnesses! How DARE you try to depose them!" How do you paralegal without knowing how witnesses work? They had JUST talked about depositions and interrogatories in the scheduling conference a month prior, too. The judge had painstakingly gone over the whole thing with both Greer and Hardin.

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Oh man. When he was claiming trial would be ready for January/February, and he was submitting things that required Hardin's input, without Hardin's input. Or when the judge gave him instructions on how to do things, which he'd promptly ignore and complain about it over the following months. Back when his power word was "excusable neglect" instead of "copyright case". The case has come so far. You can tell because Hardin is requesting ECF 1 to be unsealed, LOL.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I’m still stunned that Russ claimed Steve Taylor, witness for the plaintiff, was eager to testify, without even speaking to him first to validate that statement, or checking whether he’s even FUCKING ALIVE.

Russ has never been big on messy things like Due Diligence. Preparing that somebody else do (and pay for) such things. Or better yet they should just believe what he says. Fact checking him is unfair criminal and sanctionable.

 

[Harvey Danger]

The best possible interpretation is that Russ listed Steve Taylor based off a discussion several years ago and never followed up to verify if he was still interested, or even alive.

This doesn't work because Russ later admitted that he had a "falling out" with Steve the last time they talked years earlier, and assumed Steve was still mad. Even if Russ legitimately believed a proposed witness was still alive (without checking), he can not legitimately claim such a witness was "eager" to testify when their last interaction was an argument and cutting off contact.

Then the other two, who were likely listed in a similar manner, were removed as soon as Russ learned that meant they were open to questioning from Hardin.

Only one of them was listed in the motion though. And again, Russ has admitted that as soon as they were aware they were listed, they declared they were unwilling to testify. Nothing in his proffered text messages indicates they could ever have been described as eager.

I don't know what the reasonable effort or expectation is for people he's still on friendly terms with. But surely "ask them if they will testify in Utah" is a precursor to claiming "they will only testify in Utah" or "they would be extremely inconvenienced testifying someplace other than Utah".

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

Mr Hardin has quickly become Shitlips' Mary Lee Walsh. A cartoon villain who exists only to thwart his love quest. The ease with which he gets under his skin and causes a cat 5 chimpout is a sight to behold.

So far, the Magistrate has just straight up ignored instances of Rusty treating the docket like his Polly Pocket diary and quietly granted whatever he was whining about, but I'm hoping there's an explicit "unless it's relevant and you can substantiate it, shut the fuck up" coming soon.

 

[HackerX]

I don't know what the reasonable effort or expectation is for people he's still on friendly terms with. But surely "ask them if they will testify in Utah" is a precursor to claiming "they will only testify in Utah" or "they would be extremely inconvenienced testifying someplace other than Utah".

It'll be silly when the case is finally dismissed in 30 years, on a purely legal technicality, because of Russell flubbing up somewhere. Either forcing the case to retransfer back to Utah when it ought not to have, or the emergency brothel rezoning meeting opening up doors to challenge his IFP status. The plightsperging serves no purpose other than to plightsperg, as he has been told many numbers of times, stalker.

I guess that something like this was always going to be the case though. It's not like he's prosecuted anything beyond 'muh copyright' after 5 years. We'll get to the point of his copyright expiring before his case is even over.

I'm still flabbergasted that the judge denied Hardin's attempt to enjoin Jewgle to the lawsuit last year though. The 10th circuit being spastic, vindictive retards is one thing, but I'm at a loss considering the goddamn material isn't even hosted on the forums. Just a fucking link to a Googledrive. I need someone to explain to me how Kiwifarms, a website, is legally liable for what is stored on another web server. It's obvious why Russ isn't bothering with going after a Google, but how does the court not look at this and think "why aren't you going after them"?

Combine that with Russ's incredible motions and it makes the US federal court system look like a bunch of pants-shitting retards. Then, whenever it does get dismissed 40 years from now, Russ is just going to conjure up some other lawsuit shrowded in plights and we're back at this all over again. Except this time his IFP status might actually be legitimate.

Assuming Russ doesn't get labeled as a vexatious litigant, and doesn't do the Wereturkey game of court venue shopping, I think the only long-term option is to secure Russ's parent's services as tardwranglers. Why they never stepped in is beyond me. They know him well enough for the tardshield to be inneffective and it's not like his actions makes the Mormon faith proud. It'd be one thing if he was excommunicated, but that clearly isn't the case either.

 

[I Shidded I Farded I Came]

It's obvious why Russ isn't bothering with going after a Google, but how does the court not look at this and think "why aren't you going after them"?

They don't need to ask since he offered up the reason already. Null hurt his ego and he wants revenge. Simple as.

Per his own words, that is because they would have complied and made the lawsuit moot. Per his own words, he is suing because Null made fun of him
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[Unknown God]

Russ is just going to conjure up some other lawsuit shrowded in plights and we're back at this all over again.

Which is why it's important that more financial sanctions land successfully. If his whore fund gets wiped out and inshallah he becomes actually indebted to Null, I have a feeling he will not want to risk going back into the ring with Hardship Hardin again.

 

[Napoleon III]

I’m still stunned that Russ claimed Steve Taylor, witness for the plaintiff, was eager to testify, without even speaking to him first to validate that statement, or checking whether he’s even FUCKING ALIVE.

Something that I just realized is that this means Greer not only had a master plan about how he was going to litigate this case. Witnesses such as his family and Steve Taylor, but that he didn't even bother to change his grand master plan to suit changing conditions.

He just imagines that the court will work a certain way and can't even adapt when something new happens.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Which is why it's important that more financial sanctions land successfully. If his whore fund gets wiped out and inshallah he becomes actually indebted to Null, I have a feeling he will not want to risk going back into the ring with Hardship Hardin again.

That's the optimal outcome. But we're talking about the guy who got burned suing Taylor Swift then still sued Ariana Grande. Skordas drew blood in a previous suit and hopped onto this case at the beginning, yet Greer still appealed it to keep the suit going.

Null is going to have to secure such a huge debt that Russ can't pay a filing fee without it being garnished into Null's bank account first. Hopefully he gets vexlit granted, however considering this is (still!) Greer's first case against the Farms, he might not qualify yet.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

I think he was just expecting a summary judgement after the 10th said he might have a shred of a case, which to Crusty Rusty meant he won and you had to pay him now, now, now!

I guarantee his entire theory on buying a whorehouse or whore designated land upon which he could park a dilapidated trailer and call it a whorehouse, initially hinged on him getting 6 figures from Null. When that didn't materialize as quickly as he desired, he had to resort to his second best idea, outright fraud.

Null is going to have to secure such a huge debt that Russ can't pay a filing fee without it being garnished into Null's bank account first. Hopefully he gets vexlit against Greer, however considering this is his first case against the Farms, he might not qualify yet.

I would say the abusive way he has pursued this litigation would be enough to have him labeled as a vexatious litigant.

 

[SargonF00t]

I think the only long-term option is to secure Russ's parent's services as tardwranglers. Why they never stepped in is beyond me. They know him well enough for the tardshield to be inneffective and it's not like his actions makes the Mormon faith proud. It'd be one thing if he was excommunicated, but that clearly isn't the case either.

I thought Russell had been excommunicated?

Regardless, the reason why his parents can't tard wrangle him is because of Russell's need to have someone suck him his penis.

 

[The Un-Clit]

I thought Russell had been excommunicated?

Regardless, the reason why his parents can't tard wrangle him is because of Russell's need to have someone suck him his penis.

This has been answered a few times in the main Greer thread. He wasn't "de-fellowshipped" as they call it, but he's not a member in good standing, either. He actually tried getting rent money from the local ward bishop when he was evicted last year. I don't think they ponied up though, so he's dropped his Mormon faith again.