Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Martys_not_smarty]

Question, is there such a thing as a shotgun pouch you can attach and remove from a sling instead of the sling being covered in shell loops and so a link or product name would be appreciated.

Also big ups to the half dozen people here with PTRs I've have mine for a decade and change it's an older one and unfortunately sans the paddle release so you gotta have ET fingers to drop the mag.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Question, is there such a thing as a shotgun pouch you can attach and remove from a sling instead of the sling being covered in shell loops and so a link or product name would be appreciated.

Also big ups to the half dozen people here with PTRs I've have mine for a decade and change it's an older one and unfortunately sans the paddle release so you gotta have ET fingers to drop the mag.

There are Velcro shotgun pouches like this maybe?

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

There are Velcro shotgun pouches like this maybe?
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Thay would be if you want to put it in the receiver, what I'm looking for is something that looks like that but would wrap around a sling that you'd remove with velcro, like on a duffle bag that has that padded section on it for your shoulder.

 

[Friedrich Hayek's Ghost]

Thay would be if you want to put it in the receiver, what I'm looking for is something that looks like that but would wrap around a sling that you'd remove with velcro, like on a duffle bag that has that padded section on it for your shoulder.

I'm not aware of any off-the-shelf products like that, but you could probably get a roll of adhesive-backed velcro and use that. It'd need to either be a sew-on patch, or have some pretty stout glue, but I think it'd work. A sling made of very stiff fabric would probably work best, so the fabric is less prone to twisting underneath the glue and pulling away from it.

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

There are Velcro shotgun pouches like this maybe?
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There are slings out there that have Velcro loops material already stitched on like this one (note: I have no experience with this particular model, but it popped up first while searching). Combine that with some shotgun cards and you'd probably be good to go and be able to either load from the cards on the sling or rapidly replace empty cards on your gun from the sling.

 

[Foley]

Heres an experimental flamethrower suomi KP from ww2.
There exists, ONE picture of it being actually tested and it is not on the internet.

 

[Adolf Hulkler]

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Huh....
So there are TWO images.
I havent seen that one.
Wheres the sauce for that?

EDIT:

https://fdra.blogspot.com/2023/08/finlandia-lanzallamas-de-la-guerra-de.html

huh, theres an article about it, including schematics that are marked "SECRET"

 

[Foley]

Huh....
So there are TWO images.
I havent seen that one.
Wheres the sauce for that?

I might remember wrong, but could've been one of those images that they managed to download from the "modern SA-Kuva" archive, before it was deleted. There were some other gems there too, like this one off prototype of a shortened RK-62:



It's a giant fucking shame that said image archive isn't coming back, there was so much good stuff there. People managed to download and see some photos, but I doubt anyone really realized to download the whole archive because FDF was talking for ages about making it public. Well, turned out they had it public for like two weeks.

I think their official explanation was that the new EU GDPR rules make it too much of a hassle, my guess is that some officer realized that publishing photos of discreet military locations, especially like caves and such, isn't the smart thing to do when a lot of those places are still in use to this day. And going through literally hunderds of thousands of photos just wasn't worth the effort.

 

[BikeLock]

the m14 was not overly heavy compared to rifles of the time nor was 20 round mags undersized (it was the norm) and the recoil was not excessive at all, it was the same amount of recoil infantry rifles had for ~60 years at that point. The M14 was objectively an improvement on the M1 Garand and a good all round rifle.

It just wasn't nearly as good as every other 7.62 battle rifle that came into existence, namely both the FAL and the G3.

It's not even as good as the AR10, which was rejected before any of its teething issues could be worked through.

 

[Foley]

It just wasn't nearly as good as every other 7.62 battle rifle that came into existence, namely both the FAL and the G3.

It's not even as good as the AR10, which was rejected before any of its teething issues could be worked through.

I think the better question to answer is that what made the M14 better than any of its contemporaries at the time?

Maybe the sights? That's like the only thing you could argue. And I guess that too is mostly down to preference.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

It just wasn't nearly as good as every other 7.62 battle rifle that came into existence, namely both the FAL and the G3.

It's not even as good as the AR10, which was rejected before any of its teething issues could be worked through.

your experience with the FAL is tainted by its recency. The FAL the M14 went up against in the trials was much more evenly matched. It was a magazine fed, open top, stripper clip compatible battle rifle with wood furniture with no good way to mount a optic . . . exactly like the M14.

but the trials FAL was also: more complicated, less reliable and heavier. you can't compare a 1980's FAL it a 1950's M14. unfortunately the CETME was not in the trails. the spanish wanted to make it into something similar in concept to today's intermediate caliber assault rifle but could not quite make it work.

and H&K only made the G3 because they could not get a license to built the FAL from FN. The Belgians were still butt hurt over being invaded twice in 50 years turns out.

 

[Friedrich Hayek's Ghost]

My assumption about the M14, based on vibes and literally nothing else, was that it's probably a perfectly fine military rifle, but not well-suited to the places it got fielded. It also always seems to be that whenever the military adopts a new rifle, the logistics to properly support them always seems to roll out just enough later that it sours the infantry's opinion on the rifle, and the M14 was only in service for a few years, at least as the main issue rifle.

 

[Lead Lizard]

why the fuck is the p320 so complicated inside? Maybe I'm spoiled with my older style guns but christ almighty it looks like a raygun inside compared to this:

Most modern striker-fired pistols are like this, but the P320 in particular is a little bit moreso because of the chassis system. They had to design it in a way such that all of the FCU parts don't interact with the frame of the gun, so that it can be swapped into different frames.

But the complexity is for safety. A properly designed semi precocked striker is way, way safer of a design than a traditional hammer fired single-action.

 

[BikeLock]

Most modern striker-fired pistols are like this, but the P320 in particular is a little bit moreso because of the chassis system. They had to design it in a way such that all of the FCU parts don't interact with the frame of the gun, so that it can be swapped into different frames.

But the complexity is for safety. A properly designed semi precocked striker is way, way safer of a design than a traditional hammer fired single-action.

My VP9 is literally Kraut Space Magic compared to my USPs. It really is retarded what everyone but Glock has to do to get around Glock's patents of their very simple design. They pretty much figured out the most efficient way to do it right off the bat. What they really got right with the design is the near toolless maintenance, where you can detail strip the entire pistol down with nothing but a punch. This design feature oddly enough is something it has in common with the 1911, as with a mil-spec 1911 all you need to take one completely apart is an empty shell casing for the grip screws. Granted the USP isn't exactly difficult as you will need a hammer to punch a few pins out, but the VP9 has a fucking blind pin in the slide, I have no idea how one would go about pulling it outside of threading a tiny easyout or screw into the roll pin, and then pulling it out (obviously replacing it with a new one).

The LEM system for the USP is far less complicated than what HK had to do with the VP9, imho.

The Walther P99 I played with actually felt better in the "double action" mode than a regular Glock trigger, just with a little bit longer pull. The reset and "single action" were miles better of course, but I would have to actually shoot one to really judge if I like it.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

Bit of a dumb question but does a out of the box 870 that comes with a +1 cap on it have the dimples removed from the tube? The mom and pop shop by me had a witness protection tac14 and off the bat i'd want to replace the follower with something that isn't a coke bottle top.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

My VP9 is literally Kraut Space Magic compared to my USPs. It really is retarded what everyone but Glock has to do to get around Glock's patents of their very simple design. They pretty much figured out the most efficient way to do it right off the bat. What they really got right with the design is the near toolless maintenance, where you can detail strip the entire pistol down with nothing but a punch. This design feature oddly enough is something it has in common with the 1911, as with a mil-spec 1911 all you need to take one completely apart is an empty shell casing for the grip screws. Granted the USP isn't exactly difficult as you will need a hammer to punch a few pins out, but the VP9 has a fucking blind pin in the slide, I have no idea how one would go about pulling it outside of threading a tiny easyout or screw into the roll pin, and then pulling it out (obviously replacing it with a new one).

The LEM system for the USP is far less complicated than what HK had to do with the VP9, imho.

The Walther P99 I played with actually felt better in the "double action" mode than a regular Glock trigger, just with a little bit longer pull. The reset and "single action" were miles better of course, but I would have to actually shoot one to really judge if I like it.

The Glock performance trigger fixes all my complaints with a stock Glock trigger.

 

[DocAwe]

Everything > M14

 

[Romulus augustulus]

It really is retarded what everyone but Glock has to do to get around Glock's patents of their very simple design.

dude there was so much of that in the early breech loading era from about 1851-1880. So many goofy revolvers to get around colt patents or the rollin-white patent. with shotguns there were hundreds of action types that were specifically designed to avoid infringement on the Scott-spindle toplever (1865) patent and the patent on the Purdey double under bolts (1863). as soon as those patents ran out in the middle 1880s almost every shotgun was made with these designs. to this day. Any SxS or O/U gun you can buy new today will have a scott spindle toplever and purdey under bolts. Every single one.

It was a very interesting time. many of these guns were actually built very well and worked just fine but were overly complicated.

 

[74164978231]

The M14 would have made a great civilian rifle. However it was a terrible combat rifle for the simple fact it was obsolete before it was even issued. That a bunch of combat veterans didn't take one look at the STG rifles, and go "everyone needs one of these!" Is the most mind boggling facts of history

Combat veterans dont matter.

Its senior officers who never spent time kicking in door after door or patrolling half the day that are making the decision with what rifle to go with. The massive draw backs of weight, length, ammo capacity are meaningless facts to them as its all words on paper, not something theyve genuinely experience.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Bit of a dumb question but does a out of the box 870 that comes with a +1 cap on it have the dimples removed from the tube? The mom and pop shop by me had a witness protection tac14 and off the bat i'd want to replace the follower with something that isn't a coke bottle top.

the only ones NIB without dimples were Express models with the extension from the factory, the Police models, and specific Wingmaster and Magnum (3.5" chamber) models. all others since 1955 had dimples either punched or impressed.

the WP Tac-14 has dimples from the factory. if it has a +1 extension, then they were likely removed after market.